Jeremy Clarkson suspended by BBC...
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
mybrainhurts said:
Ari said:
don4l said:
You are asking the wrong questions.
500 jobs will be lost. I'm sure that the 500 affected families will understand that Clarkson had to go, and the sacrifice of their jobs was a small price to pay.
This is what happens when lefties try to take the high moral ground.
The real victim in this is Oisin.
He didn't want to report the assault. He doesn't want to give any evidence to the police.
Oisin could easily have come out of this with a £50k bonus and a secure future. Instead, the people who are pretending to be outraged that he was assaulted, have forced him into hiding. These people were not outraged because Oisin was assaulted. They are outraged that Clarkson assaulted someone.
In fact, I would say that they are not outraged at all. They reacted with glee when the story broke. They had an opportunity to bring down one of the few "non-lefties" that remain at the BBC.
So, the real victim will never see justice. Far from being compensated, he will be punished for years to come.
So, I have a question for those of you wanted Clarkson sacked. Are you pleased about the outcome for the victim - you know a chap called Oisin Tymon?
Another question, should Oisin have had any say in Clarkson's punishment?
WTF!? 500 jobs will be lost. I'm sure that the 500 affected families will understand that Clarkson had to go, and the sacrifice of their jobs was a small price to pay.
This is what happens when lefties try to take the high moral ground.
The real victim in this is Oisin.
He didn't want to report the assault. He doesn't want to give any evidence to the police.
Oisin could easily have come out of this with a £50k bonus and a secure future. Instead, the people who are pretending to be outraged that he was assaulted, have forced him into hiding. These people were not outraged because Oisin was assaulted. They are outraged that Clarkson assaulted someone.
In fact, I would say that they are not outraged at all. They reacted with glee when the story broke. They had an opportunity to bring down one of the few "non-lefties" that remain at the BBC.
So, the real victim will never see justice. Far from being compensated, he will be punished for years to come.
So, I have a question for those of you wanted Clarkson sacked. Are you pleased about the outcome for the victim - you know a chap called Oisin Tymon?
Another question, should Oisin have had any say in Clarkson's punishment?
Just when you think this thread can't get any worse...
If I was attacked at work by a colleague, I'd complain to my employers. If I was attacked at work by a colleague who'd previously attacked someone else and my employers knew about his or her history, I wouldn't complain to my employers, I'd sue them. For knowingly placing me in a position of danger.
The BBC would have needed to consider that.
mph1977 said:
mybrainhurts said:
You poor dear. That's the problem, most modern men have gone all feminine. No bloody backbone....
or perhaps it's that we've managed to walk upright and therefore aren't in chronic pain from abraded knuckles ... ?don4l said:
Motorrad said:
don4l said:
So, the real victim will never see justice. Far from being compensated, he will be punished for years to come.
So, I have a question for those of you wanted Clarkson sacked. Are you pleased about the outcome for the victim - you know a chap called Oisin Tymon?
Another question, should Oisin have had any say in Clarkson's punishment?
No personal interest/agenda whatsoever here. So, I have a question for those of you wanted Clarkson sacked. Are you pleased about the outcome for the victim - you know a chap called Oisin Tymon?
Another question, should Oisin have had any say in Clarkson's punishment?
Dislike the BBC, find top gear a bore.
You cannot assault a colleague and expect to keep your job. Really that's the end of the story.
You ignored my questions.
I asked about the real victim, and you responded exactly as I expected. Your post doesn't mention Oisin once.
You have reinforced my view that there is a certain section of society who will pursue their own agenda without regard to the consequences for innocent victims.
In your world, Oisin's future is a small price to pay to pacify your moral outrage.
Also, you said "No personal interest/agenda whatsoever here. "
I only click on threads that interest me. I'm sure that this applies to most people. I'm also sure that you will understand that readers will be surprised that you have not only clicked on a thread that you have no interest in, but you also took the trouble to post in it.
I'm really struggling to believe that you are being entirely honest.
The fact remains you lamp someone at work = get the book thrown at you. Everything Clarkson has said or done since the incident would seem to indicate he knew this as well.
mph1977 said:
mybrainhurts said:
Ari said:
don4l said:
You are asking the wrong questions.
500 jobs will be lost. I'm sure that the 500 affected families will understand that Clarkson had to go, and the sacrifice of their jobs was a small price to pay.
This is what happens when lefties try to take the high moral ground.
The real victim in this is Oisin.
He didn't want to report the assault. He doesn't want to give any evidence to the police.
Oisin could easily have come out of this with a £50k bonus and a secure future. Instead, the people who are pretending to be outraged that he was assaulted, have forced him into hiding. These people were not outraged because Oisin was assaulted. They are outraged that Clarkson assaulted someone.
In fact, I would say that they are not outraged at all. They reacted with glee when the story broke. They had an opportunity to bring down one of the few "non-lefties" that remain at the BBC.
So, the real victim will never see justice. Far from being compensated, he will be punished for years to come.
So, I have a question for those of you wanted Clarkson sacked. Are you pleased about the outcome for the victim - you know a chap called Oisin Tymon?
Another question, should Oisin have had any say in Clarkson's punishment?
WTF!? 500 jobs will be lost. I'm sure that the 500 affected families will understand that Clarkson had to go, and the sacrifice of their jobs was a small price to pay.
This is what happens when lefties try to take the high moral ground.
The real victim in this is Oisin.
He didn't want to report the assault. He doesn't want to give any evidence to the police.
Oisin could easily have come out of this with a £50k bonus and a secure future. Instead, the people who are pretending to be outraged that he was assaulted, have forced him into hiding. These people were not outraged because Oisin was assaulted. They are outraged that Clarkson assaulted someone.
In fact, I would say that they are not outraged at all. They reacted with glee when the story broke. They had an opportunity to bring down one of the few "non-lefties" that remain at the BBC.
So, the real victim will never see justice. Far from being compensated, he will be punished for years to come.
So, I have a question for those of you wanted Clarkson sacked. Are you pleased about the outcome for the victim - you know a chap called Oisin Tymon?
Another question, should Oisin have had any say in Clarkson's punishment?
Just when you think this thread can't get any worse...
You're still dishing out those pathetic insults, but can't take valid criticism yourself.
If you carry on like this, you really must stop whingeing when you don't like the way things are going.
mph1977 said:
fruitcake hatstand wibble sardine corsetiere haddock p'tang p'tang
At last the plan swings into action! I will mobilise the lizards at once.I took a break for a while, and come back here to find it seems to be getting a bit petty.
Back on topic (ish), how much of topgear's IP is owned by the BBC?
The name, obviously. The stig, star in a reasonably priced car, probably the cool wall, ditto the props (hilux etc.)
Anything else?
If JC starts "Jezza Gear" with "The Swig" and gets sued by the BBC, this thread will run forever.
don4l said:
So, I have a question for those of you wanted Clarkson sacked.
Clarkson wasn't sacked, BBC declined to renew his contract. This was though because of his gross misconduct.don4l said:
Are you pleased about the outcome for the victim - you know a chap called Oisin Tymon?
No I am not, a much better outcome would have been Clarkson accepting that he was late for dinner and taking what was on offer.don4l said:
Another question, should Oisin have had any say in Clarkson's punishment?
No.In the news the D.G. Has received death threats re the JC sacking!!!!
WTF are these troll morons thinking? Its a bloody car show was good now its over end of story, are these individuals mentally disturbed or think they are immune to prosecution
Hope the old bill catch these idiots are charge them accordingly.
WTF are these troll morons thinking? Its a bloody car show was good now its over end of story, are these individuals mentally disturbed or think they are immune to prosecution
Hope the old bill catch these idiots are charge them accordingly.
Welshbeef said:
In the news the D.G. Has received death threats re the JC sacking!!!!
WTF are these troll morons thinking? Its a bloody car show was good now its over end of story, are these individuals mentally disturbed or think they are immune to prosecution
Hope the old bill catch these idiots are charge them accordingly.
It's just words, you'd think he'd just man up and get on with it. Oh hold on a moment... WTF are these troll morons thinking? Its a bloody car show was good now its over end of story, are these individuals mentally disturbed or think they are immune to prosecution
Hope the old bill catch these idiots are charge them accordingly.
Welshbeef said:
In the news the D.G. Has received death threats re the JC sacking!!!!
WTF are these troll morons thinking? Its a bloody car show was good now its over end of story, are these individuals mentally disturbed or think they are immune to prosecution
Hope the old bill catch these idiots are charge them accordingly.
Normally I'd say it was unbelievable, but having read this thread...WTF are these troll morons thinking? Its a bloody car show was good now its over end of story, are these individuals mentally disturbed or think they are immune to prosecution
Hope the old bill catch these idiots are charge them accordingly.
It is astonishing though.
Welshbeef said:
In the news the D.G. Has received death threats re the JC sacking!!!!
WTF are these troll morons thinking? Its a bloody car show was good now its over end of story, are these individuals mentally disturbed or think they are immune to prosecution
Hope the old bill catch these idiots are charge them accordingly.
Internet innit.WTF are these troll morons thinking? Its a bloody car show was good now its over end of story, are these individuals mentally disturbed or think they are immune to prosecution
Hope the old bill catch these idiots are charge them accordingly.
Ingredients are there. People seem to think they have some ownership of the bloke. They hate the BBC. The internet seems to allow people to lose sensibility.
Pesty said:
Wtf are you lot still arguing about. It's all finished. He's gone.
Hopefully somewhere else with loads of cash and more than 6 episodes a season
It's win win.
Absolutely! Fresh start and new ideas too. Hopefully somewhere else with loads of cash and more than 6 episodes a season
It's win win.
And another thing - I'd laugh my arse off if Oisin went with them (I really don't consider it beyond the bounds of possibility)
Dog Star said:
Pesty said:
Wtf are you lot still arguing about. It's all finished. He's gone.
Hopefully somewhere else with loads of cash and more than 6 episodes a season
It's win win.
Absolutely! Fresh start and new ideas too. Hopefully somewhere else with loads of cash and more than 6 episodes a season
It's win win.
And another thing - I'd laugh my arse off if Oisin went with them (I really don't consider it beyond the bounds of possibility)
Lots of people have the opinion that now Clarkson has moved on from the BBC, the team will go with him, the new car series will earn a gazillion pounds a minute and everyone will be as happy as Larry (whoever he is). But it's not that simple.
Regardless of any business/legal wranglings behind the scene, Clarkson hit the self-destruct button in a very public way. His life is imploding around him.
In the last 2 years, his mother died, he was caught cheating on his 2nd wife, he's going through an expensive and protracted divorce, he's had controversies at work, and he has a well known alcohol problem which seems to be getting worse. He's drinking so much that even he and has friends have admitted that he has a problem with alcohol in print! Every time he's turned up at a public appearance, he appears to be pissed. This is not normal.
I think rival broadcasters will avoid him until he sorts out at least some of these issues.
Regardless of any business/legal wranglings behind the scene, Clarkson hit the self-destruct button in a very public way. His life is imploding around him.
In the last 2 years, his mother died, he was caught cheating on his 2nd wife, he's going through an expensive and protracted divorce, he's had controversies at work, and he has a well known alcohol problem which seems to be getting worse. He's drinking so much that even he and has friends have admitted that he has a problem with alcohol in print! Every time he's turned up at a public appearance, he appears to be pissed. This is not normal.
I think rival broadcasters will avoid him until he sorts out at least some of these issues.
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