Jeremy Clarkson suspended by BBC...

Jeremy Clarkson suspended by BBC...

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anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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Scuffers said:
can you imagine this happening in the private sector?
No, I can't. There are never issues within the private sector, contractual or otherwise. It's always smooth sailing within large private organisations laugh

Scuffers said:
the reality is we the public would never have known about the whole incident, wrists would have been slapped, people put in the place, the show would have gone on.
Like what happened at private sector Sky? Oh wait...

The private sector is full of large organisations who allow their employees to punch each other in the face.

Scuffers

20,887 posts

275 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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Countdown said:
Scuffers said:
so correctly, that they have had to back track and keep him on to honour BBC worldwides international contracts!

absolute farce!

the DG should be sacked for incompetence, along with the management morons that allowed this situation to play out.
They are two separate contracts. As far as I'm aware he wasn't sacked from either.
so what?

how does that change the public perception and the lack of the last 3 TG episodes?


turbobloke

104,112 posts

261 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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Countdown said:
Scuffers said:
so correctly, that they have had to back track and keep him on to honour BBC worldwides international contracts!

absolute farce!

the DG should be sacked for incompetence, along with the management morons that allowed this situation to play out.
They are two separate contracts.
Clarkson and his Top Gear role are central to both.

smn159 said:
Hardly a case of gross incompetence on the BBCs part
Most comments on the thread are around unprofessional actions rather than gross incompetence.

Three execs potentially compromising a disciplinary review via prejudicial remarks mid-process is hardly professional, but it's par for the course with beeb 'leadership' and it's yet to be seen how much is eventually wasted/avoidably lost and how much less or more it is than the £125m on that cancelled digital project.

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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So... To recap:

Andy Willman HASN'T resigned, he merely sent an email thanking all the staff for their continued hard work on the show.

And...

Top Gear Live will be going ahead and will be renamed Clarkson, May and Hammond Live.

XCP

16,950 posts

229 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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I have 2 son in laws who both work for private sector companies. Both agree that if they punched someone at work, they would be gone within hours.

Countdown

40,019 posts

197 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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Scuffers said:
Countdown said:
Scuffers said:
so correctly, that they have had to back track and keep him on to honour BBC worldwides international contracts!

absolute farce!

the DG should be sacked for incompetence, along with the management morons that allowed this situation to play out.
They are two separate contracts. As far as I'm aware he wasn't sacked from either.
so what?

how does that change the public perception and the lack of the last 3 TG episodes?
It's relating to your point about "backtracking". Despite your assertion no tracks have been backed.

turbobloke

104,112 posts

261 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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XCP said:
I have 2 son in laws who both work for private sector companies. Both agree that if they punched someone at work, they would be gone within hours.
In terms of physical assaults in general, that would mean your 2 SiLs don't include Mark Thompson, former BBC Director General.

BBC Editor Who Bit Colleague Becomes Director General

FredClogs

14,041 posts

162 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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turbobloke said:
In terms of physical assaults in general, that would mean your 2 SiLs don't include Mark Thompson, former BBC Director General.

BBC Editor Who Bit Colleague Becomes Director General
He was hungry, long day filming.

PRTVR

7,133 posts

222 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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XCP said:
I have 2 son in laws who both work for private sector companies. Both agree that if they punched someone at work, they would be gone within hours.
Agreed but what if they hit someone outside of work, say in a hotel?.

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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turbobloke said:
XCP said:
I have 2 son in laws who both work for private sector companies. Both agree that if they punched someone at work, they would be gone within hours.
In terms of physical assaults in general, that would mean your 2 SiLs don't include Mark Thompson, former BBC Director General.

BBC Editor Who Bit Colleague Becomes Director General
I think the part where he says, "within hours", means his SILs were speculating as to what would happen now, as oppose to 1988, when that incident occurred...


mph1977

12,467 posts

169 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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PRTVR said:
XCP said:
I have 2 son in laws who both work for private sector companies. Both agree that if they punched someone at work, they would be gone within hours.
Agreed but what if they hit someone outside of work, say in a hotel?.
if they were there on company business or at a company organised function ...

i know of a number of companies who have withdrawn support for staff events because of the riusk of any incident at the event reflecting on the company or having to be dealt with as a HR/ discipline matter

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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mph1977 said:
PRTVR said:
XCP said:
I have 2 son in laws who both work for private sector companies. Both agree that if they punched someone at work, they would be gone within hours.
Agreed but what if they hit someone outside of work, say in a hotel?.
if they were there on company business or at a company organised function ...

i know of a number of companies who have withdrawn support for staff events because of the riusk of any incident at the event reflecting on the company or having to be dealt with as a HR/ discipline matter
A guy from my office was sacked in January this year because he got to drunk at the work Christmas do in December and said some quite lairy/suggestive things to a few women of the office.

One phrase he uttered was "Phwooaaar! Look at the arse on this one!" whilst leering at my admin girl Stacey who was wearing a black leather mini skirt and high heels.

legzr1

3,848 posts

140 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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277 pages?


Sad.

turbobloke

104,112 posts

261 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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La Liga said:
turbobloke said:
XCP said:
I have 2 son in laws who both work for private sector companies. Both agree that if they punched someone at work, they would be gone within hours.
In terms of physical assaults in general, that would mean your 2 SiLs don't include Mark Thompson, former BBC Director General.

BBC Editor Who Bit Colleague Becomes Director General
I think the part where he says, "within hours", means his SILs were speculating as to what would happen now, as oppose to 1988, when that incident occurred...
Was biting a colleague not considered an assault back then? By the police too?

In my 1988 workplace, not the BBC, biting a colleague would have led to dismissal as the staff handbook had violence as one of the examples of gross misconduct.

If only the BBC could manage to conduct investigations in a matter of hours.


turbobloke

104,112 posts

261 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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legzr1 said:
277 pages?
Sad.
All those pages with one sad post commenting on the allegedly sad pages. Joyful.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

199 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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NinjaPower said:
A guy from my office was sacked in January this year because he got to drunk at the work Christmas do in December and said some quite lairy/suggestive things to a few women of the office.

One phrase he uttered was "Phwooaaar! Look at the arse on this one!" whilst leering at my admin girl Stacey who was wearing a black leather mini skirt and high heels.
Seriously he was sacked for a drunken comment at a Xmas do.... PC gone mad.

Scuffers

20,887 posts

275 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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Welshbeef said:
Seriously he was sacked for a drunken comment at a Xmas do.... PC gone mad.
Just thinking that!

(Remembering xmas parties of days gone by)

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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turbobloke said:
Was biting a colleague not considered an assault back then? By the police too?

In my 1988 workplace, not the BBC, biting a colleague would have led to dismissal as the staff handbook had violence as one of the examples of gross misconduct.

If only the BBC could manage to conduct investigations in a matter of hours.
Which has no relevance to the fact he was talking about what his son in laws would be expecting today.

You relied on a poor source to try and undermine his point, but it was an incident at a time when many things were different. If it were more recent and dealt with under the current laws, structure, policies, HR, procedures and organisational culture, then it would be relevant.









Zoobeef

6,004 posts

159 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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NinjaPower said:
A guy from my office was sacked in January this year because he got to drunk at the work Christmas do in December and said some quite lairy/suggestive things to a few women of the office.

One phrase he uttered was "Phwooaaar! Look at the arse on this one!" whilst leering at my admin girl Stacey who was wearing a black leather mini skirt and high heels.
Is that the reason she's your Admin girl?

Oakey

27,595 posts

217 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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NinjaPower said:
A guy from my office was sacked in January this year because he got to drunk at the work Christmas do in December and said some quite lairy/suggestive things to a few women of the office.

One phrase he uttered was "Phwooaaar! Look at the arse on this one!" whilst leering at my admin girl Stacey who was wearing a black leather mini skirt and high heels.
Well are you going to share the pics or what? You have pics, right?