UKIP - The Future - Volume 4

[Digga]

Breadvan72 said:

The countries that will feel the most pain from Brexit are Britain, Ireland, and Germany, and German voters may be miffed by the stuff that hits them.

Not sure that's entirely correct, or at least how the pain will be apportioned in the EU.

For a kick off, the lack of (net) UK contribution, eventually, after all the golden handcuffs are paid off, will hit budget hard and hence, potentially, smaller, recipient nations hardest. Then there's any impact on tourism to those who rely heavily on UK punters - depending on how badly things go - which again, will tend to hit the smaller nations hardest.

[Kermit power]

Likes Fast Cars said:

The future is blank. All over red rover, UKIPPers back to voting Conservative

Some of them are. I suspect that some of them are also ex-Labour voters who knew they didn't need to vote UKIP any more, but have forgotten who they used to vote for.

[alfie2244]

Arron Banks:

"The current leadership has crashed the car, at the first bend of the race, into the crowd, killing the driver and spectators.....................

We have been working hard on the new movement with radical policies and direct democracy.

It will launch in the autumn after the General Election, once the electoral map has been redrawn."

http://www.westmonster.com/banks-brexit-general-el...

[B'stard Child]

Breadvan72 said:

UKIP would indeed be laughable, had they not managed to hijack the Country and trash our children's futures. I am not sorry to see them go. I would be inclined to say to every one of the scumbags "may you rot", but instead I shall wish them all long lives, so that they get to see what they have done.

Wow - haven't seen you post in NP&E for ages

I don't agree with all of your points but I respect your right to hold that opinion - I'm looking forward to a bright future for other peoples children so that they can pay for my old age pension.

[Zetec-S]

johnxjsc1985 said:

Nigel isn't Nuttall and that's Nuttal's problem and indeed UKIP's problem. 4 million UKIP voters moving to the COnservatives could make it even worse for Labour

I don't really see Farage solving UKIP's problem. Plenty of people voted UKIP despite him being leader because they wanted to voice their displeasure with the EU. Hypothetically if Farage were to come back he might attract a few extra votes, but as vast swathes of the country think he's a tt I can't imagine it being enough to make a difference.

As said earlier, UKIP's only real policy has now been achieved. I don't see what else they have to offer.

[Derek Smith]

Breadvan72 said:

UKIP would indeed be laughable, had they not managed to hijack the Country and trash our children's futures. I am not sorry to see them go. I would be inclined to say to every one of the scumbags "may you rot", but instead I shall wish them all long lives, so that they get to see what they have done.

The real clown was Cameron. Fearing for his own future he risked that of everyone's. And realising what he'd done, he ran away.

Good to see you back. I've missed you. To quote #III:

Michael Corleone: Just when I thought I was out... they pull me back in.

[Cobnapint]

Carswell was on the BBC earlier saying it was over for UKIP and all its supporters should move over to vote for the Conservatives so TM can get a strong mandate to take the country out of the EU.

[Deptford Draylons]

Derek Smith said:

The real clown was Cameron. Fearing for his own future he risked that of everyone's. And realising what he'd done, he ran away.

Risked that of everyone's ? The result says you maybe speaking billy bks.

[anonymous-user]

techiedave said:

UKIP are simply imploding now. Mr Nuttall just seems like a dodgy time share salesman. It's a pity it would have been more fitting/ striking/ to have just announced a dissolvement of the party and maybe an instruction to vote conservative or something.
The FGM thing is being parodied on several websites . The one I copied that upset some is one of the milder ones out there. There are also some complete barm pots putting themselves up for council elections. The Gisela woman is one of the oddest but there's a website I came across that had a list of some of the councillors pledges that were genuinely funny. I'll try and find it

It's a sad end and its a bit like the dying days of the SNP years ago. David Owen just didn't know when to stop

[Deptford Draylons]

techiedave said:

techiedave said:

UKIP are simply imploding now. Mr Nuttall just seems like a dodgy time share salesman. It's a pity it would have been more fitting/ striking/ to have just announced a dissolvement of the party and maybe an instruction to vote conservative or something.
The FGM thing is being parodied on several websites . The one I copied that upset some is one of the milder ones out there. There are also some complete barm pots putting themselves up for council elections. The Gisela woman is one of the oddest but there's a website I came across that had a list of some of the councillors pledges that were genuinely funny. I'll try and find it

It's a sad end and its a bit like the dying days of the SNP years ago. David Owen just didn't know when to stop

SDP

[Eddie Strohacker]

Deptford Draylons said:

Derek Smith said:

The real clown was Cameron. Fearing for his own future he risked that of everyone's. And realising what he'd done, he ran away.

Risked that of everyone's ? The result says you maybe speaking billy bks.

4% margin ≠ billy bks.

[Deptford Draylons]

Eddie Strohacker said:

Deptford Draylons said:

Derek Smith said:

The real clown was Cameron. Fearing for his own future he risked that of everyone's. And realising what he'd done, he ran away.

Risked that of everyone's ? The result says you maybe speaking billy bks.

4% margin ? billy bks.

Seems that 52% of those who could be arsed to vote were more than happy to get the chance to express their opinion. If it was the reckless risk as being presented by Derek, the result would be different.
Shame that when everyone thought the result was a done deal for remain, lots of people were quite happy for a referendum to destroy any ideas of leaving, plus of course forgetting the caveat of needing a second referendum should the 'right ' result not have been achieved.
It's also a bit pompous to be for against one referendum after you didn't get the result you wanted, but then say there must be another that will be a good thing, so long as the right result is achieved .

[Eddie Strohacker]

No idea who you're talking about with this second referendum schtick, but it isn't me. I'm only concerned with your aggressive response to someone else that contains an obvious & glaring weakness.

[Deptford Draylons]

Eddie Strohacker said:

No idea who you're talking about with this second referendum schtick, but it isn't me. I'm only concerned with your aggressive response to someone else that contains an obvious & glaring weakness.

I'll make it simple. The offer of a referendum wasn't regard as risking everyone's future.

[Zetec-S]

Deptford Draylons said:

Seems that 52% of those who could be arsed to vote were more than happy to get the chance to express their opinion. If it was the reckless risk as being presented by Derek, the result would be different.
Shame that when everyone thought the result was a done deal for remain, lots of people were quite happy for a referendum to destroy any ideas of leaving, plus of course forgetting the caveat of needing a second referendum should the 'right ' result not have been achieved.
It's also a bit pompous to be for against one referendum after you didn't get the result you wanted, but then say there must be another that will be a good thing, so long as the right result is achieved .

Trouble with referendums (especially when there's not a great deal in it) is that you always get calls from the losing side to hold another.

So some 'remoaners' want another. If the leave campaign had lost they wouldn't have packed up and gone home, they'd keep banging on. Just like the SNP do with independence. Unless the political situation changes massively, they'll come a point when they get their way, purely through a campaign of attrition.

[Deptford Draylons]

Zetec-S said:

Deptford Draylons said:

Seems that 52% of those who could be arsed to vote were more than happy to get the chance to express their opinion. If it was the reckless risk as being presented by Derek, the result would be different.
Shame that when everyone thought the result was a done deal for remain, lots of people were quite happy for a referendum to destroy any ideas of leaving, plus of course forgetting the caveat of needing a second referendum should the 'right ' result not have been achieved.
It's also a bit pompous to be for against one referendum after you didn't get the result you wanted, but then say there must be another that will be a good thing, so long as the right result is achieved .

Trouble with referendums (especially when there's not a great deal in it) is that you always get calls from the losing side to hold another.

So some 'remoaners' want another. If the leave campaign had lost they wouldn't have packed up and gone home, they'd keep banging on. Just like the SNP do with independence. Unless the political situation changes massively, they'll come a point when they get their way, purely through a campaign of attrition.

Ukip would still be shouting about another referendum , sure. I would have said their vote share would still collapse as the majority of the country would have seen that chance gone and just carried on as the day before the vote. There would have been a week of moaning from leavers and then pretty much forgotten about already.

[FN2TypeR]

Deptford Draylons said:

I'll make it simple. The offer of a referendum wasn't regard as risking everyone's future.

Lies, Nick Clegg said that Godzilla would knock my house down if we voted to leave.

[Eddie Strohacker]

Deptford Draylons said:

Eddie Strohacker said:

No idea who you're talking about with this second referendum schtick, but it isn't me. I'm only concerned with your aggressive response to someone else that contains an obvious & glaring weakness.

I'll make it simple. The offer of a referendum wasn't regard as risking everyone's future.

It's OK, I was degree educated, you can make it as complicated as you feel necessary, however, I note a coherent sentence is a stretch and your opinion too, which is just that. So, Billy bks leaves the room then.

But hey, let's ask the high priest what he thought such a tight result would engender, shall we?



http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/nigel-farage...

Edited by Eddie Strohacker on Friday 5th May 16:05

Edited by Eddie Strohacker on Friday 5th May 16:14

[Dindoit]

Deptford Draylons said:

It's also a bit pompous to be for against one referendum after you didn't get the result you wanted, but then say there must be another that will be a good thing, so long as the right result is achieved .

"In a 52-48 referendum, this would be unfinished business by a long way." Nigel Farage, May 2016

eta beaten to it but the hypocrisy is worth repeating

[Eddie Strohacker]

Not to mention someone here implying Leave would have shrugged their shoulders & walked away but remain wouldn't. BECAUSE THEY'RE SOMEHOW BETTER PEOPLE . That really is Billy bks.