UKIP - The Future - Volume 4

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Eddie Strohacker

3,879 posts

87 months

Friday 26th May 2017
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Trabi601 said:
I had to google Mike Hookem. I thought surely a fisheries spokesman called "Hookem" had to be fake!
You don't recall the hospitalisation of Stephen Woolfe? Hookem by name, Hook'em by nature.

Disastrous

10,086 posts

218 months

Friday 26th May 2017
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Trabi601 said:
I had to google Mike Hookem. I thought surely a fisheries spokesman called "Hookem" had to be fake!
Me too. It sounded too good to be true. I also wonder how many people on here have ever just popped out to do anything at all and had their wife phone the emergency services 36 hours later because she thought they had taken their own life. I'm guessing 'none' and yet this bloke thinks it's normal enough to put in his bio. Utterly mental.

del mar

2,838 posts

200 months

Friday 26th May 2017
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oop north said:
rscott said:
So one of the reasons given by UKIP for banning face coverings is...

it "prevents intake of essential vitamin D from sunlight"


(Page 37 of their manifesto - https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/ukipdev/page... )
Their use of it as an excuse to pretend they aren't racist is amusing in its ineptitude - but my GP wife does point out that this is a problem
Is your GP wife racist as well ?

UKIP point out a problem and it is racist, you wife points it out / agrees with them and she is not, how does that work ?

Disastrous

10,086 posts

218 months

Friday 26th May 2017
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Eddie Strohacker said:
Trabi601 said:
I had to google Mike Hookem. I thought surely a fisheries spokesman called "Hookem" had to be fake!
You don't recall the hospitalisation of Stephen Woolfe? Hookem by name, Hook'em by nature.
God yes! Of course.

smn159

12,682 posts

218 months

Friday 26th May 2017
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Disastrous said:
He sounds stable:




PS - That's not how you spell 'curtain'.

PPS - It would more likely be 'shroud' in the context of the metaphor you are trying to force out.


rofl
Bloody hell - is that his election leaflet?

"Vote for me, I have mental health issues'


Deptford Draylons

10,480 posts

244 months

Friday 26th May 2017
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Breadvan72 said:
The candidate for Henley (or rather one of his drones) dropped his hate sheet through the letterbox yesterday. UKIP really have gone full Xenophobe on this one. Recent events have led to Xenophobia becoming normalised. UKIP aren't even pretending not to be shouty hateys any more.
Is their leaflet any worse than this ?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-40053376/mancheste...

rscott

14,762 posts

192 months

Friday 26th May 2017
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Deptford Draylons said:
Breadvan72 said:
The candidate for Henley (or rather one of his drones) dropped his hate sheet through the letterbox yesterday. UKIP really have gone full Xenophobe on this one. Recent events have led to Xenophobia becoming normalised. UKIP aren't even pretending not to be shouty hateys any more.
Is their leaflet any worse than this ?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-40053376/mancheste...
Nice whataboutism there. Difference is the Didsbury leaflet apparently wasn't an official publication from the mosque, unlike these election leaflets

MarshPhantom

9,658 posts

138 months

Friday 26th May 2017
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Disastrous said:
Strong and stable, strong and stable.


Vote Dalek!

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 26th May 2017
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Deptford Draylons said:
Breadvan72 said:
The candidate for Henley (or rather one of his drones) dropped his hate sheet through the letterbox yesterday. UKIP really have gone full Xenophobe on this one. Recent events have led to Xenophobia becoming normalised. UKIP aren't even pretending not to be shouty hateys any more.
Is their leaflet any worse than this ?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-40053376/mancheste...
Who cares? Shouty hateyness from X does not justify shouty hateyness from Y.

Deptford Draylons

10,480 posts

244 months

Friday 26th May 2017
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rscott said:
Deptford Draylons said:
Breadvan72 said:
The candidate for Henley (or rather one of his drones) dropped his hate sheet through the letterbox yesterday. UKIP really have gone full Xenophobe on this one. Recent events have led to Xenophobia becoming normalised. UKIP aren't even pretending not to be shouty hateys any more.
Is their leaflet any worse than this ?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-40053376/mancheste...
Nice whataboutism there. Difference is the Didsbury leaflet apparently wasn't an official publication from the mosque, unlike these election leaflets
Never said it was. Official or not, its what they were pushing out as 'normal' on an open day. You accuse 'whataboutism' and use it as an excuse not to face up to the contents and move on. Then again, its become your hallmark on such threads.

Eddie Strohacker

3,879 posts

87 months

Friday 26th May 2017
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Who is 'they'?

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 26th May 2017
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Trabi601 said:
I had to google Mike Hookem. I thought surely a fisheries spokesman called "Hookem" had to be fake!
Thank you thank you thank you. I saw this guy when UKIP were doing some launch about something and immediately thought the same . There is an anti fracking spokesperson who changed his name by deed poll or whatever to Gayzor Frackman and I really wondered if Mr Hookem had done the same

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 26th May 2017
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The Mosque leaflet is deplorable. So are the UKIP leaflets. Hatey nutters are hatey nutters, from whichever angle they do the hatey nutting.

Islam is a deplorable belief system . So is Xenophobia.

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 26th May 2017
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Disastrous said:
Trabi601 said:
I had to google Mike Hookem. I thought surely a fisheries spokesman called "Hookem" had to be fake!
Me too. It sounded too good to be true. I also wonder how many people on here have ever just popped out to do anything at all and had their wife phone the emergency services 36 hours later because she thought they had taken their own life. I'm guessing 'none' and yet this bloke thinks it's normal enough to put in his bio. Utterly mental.
Many years ago I was living with a girl (Not Mrs TD) and the relationship seemed ok. I was obviously wrong. She once popped out on her mountain bike to get something from the shops and vanished as in totally vanished (this was before the days of mobile phone mass ownership) I rang her mates her family etc No one had seen her. I did ring the Police who were brilliant.
A few days later she popped back in as if nothing had happened.

I did not marry this woman

Likes Fast Cars

2,772 posts

166 months

Friday 26th May 2017
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techiedave said:
Many years ago I was living with a girl (Not Mrs TD) and the relationship seemed ok. I was obviously wrong. She once popped out on her mountain bike to get something from the shops and vanished as in totally vanished (this was before the days of mobile phone mass ownership) I rang her mates her family etc No one had seen her. I did ring the Police who were brilliant.
A few days later she popped back in as if nothing had happened.

I did not marry this woman
Very wise move.

Deptford Draylons

10,480 posts

244 months

Friday 26th May 2017
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Breadvan72 said:
Deptford Draylons said:
Breadvan72 said:
The candidate for Henley (or rather one of his drones) dropped his hate sheet through the letterbox yesterday. UKIP really have gone full Xenophobe on this one. Recent events have led to Xenophobia becoming normalised. UKIP aren't even pretending not to be shouty hateys any more.
Is their leaflet any worse than this ?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-40053376/mancheste...
Who cares? Shouty hateyness from X does not justify shouty hateyness from Y.
I'm not trying to use it as a justification for Ukip material. I personally hope they crash and burn at the election as they are simply not needed or have anything relevant to say. They are now trying the Trump tactic to cling on to their dwindling supporter base.

The Mosque leaflet was a pointer of what is pushed out as normal and conservative, but it won't get any criticism on the same level or have people calling it fascist or leveling that accusation at the Mosque. It's very easy to do so with Ukip and get applauded for it. Unfortunately, the same people are utterly silent on material like this. The double standards doesn't help.

rscott

14,762 posts

192 months

Friday 26th May 2017
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Deptford Draylons said:
rscott said:
Deptford Draylons said:
Breadvan72 said:
The candidate for Henley (or rather one of his drones) dropped his hate sheet through the letterbox yesterday. UKIP really have gone full Xenophobe on this one. Recent events have led to Xenophobia becoming normalised. UKIP aren't even pretending not to be shouty hateys any more.
Is their leaflet any worse than this ?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-40053376/mancheste...
Nice whataboutism there. Difference is the Didsbury leaflet apparently wasn't an official publication from the mosque, unlike these election leaflets
Never said it was. Official or not, its what they were pushing out as 'normal' on an open day. You accuse 'whataboutism' and use it as an excuse not to face up to the contents and move on. Then again, its become your hallmark on such threads.
I agree the Didsbury leaflet is disgusting and am happy to discuss it. However it's not relevant to the UKIP discussion so would be better suited to another thread.

alfie2244

11,292 posts

189 months

Friday 26th May 2017
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techiedave said:
Many years ago I was living with a girl (Not Mrs TD) and the relationship seemed ok. I was obviously wrong. She once popped out on her mountain bike to get something from the shops and vanished as in totally vanished (this was before the days of mobile phone mass ownership) I rang her mates her family etc No one had seen her. I did ring the Police who were brilliant.
A few days later she popped back in as if nothing had happened.

I did not marry this woman
She probably spent a few days sleeping on the floor of a "friends" flat..........was her name Di by any chance?

Vaud

50,577 posts

156 months

Friday 26th May 2017
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techiedave said:
Many years ago I was living with a girl (Not Mrs TD) and the relationship seemed ok. I was obviously wrong. She once popped out on her mountain bike to get something from the shops and vanished as in totally vanished (this was before the days of mobile phone mass ownership) I rang her mates her family etc No one had seen her. I did ring the Police who were brilliant.
A few days later she popped back in as if nothing had happened.

I did not marry this woman
Did she say where she had been?

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 26th May 2017
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alfie2244 said:
techiedave said:
Many years ago I was living with a girl (Not Mrs TD) and the relationship seemed ok. I was obviously wrong. She once popped out on her mountain bike to get something from the shops and vanished as in totally vanished (this was before the days of mobile phone mass ownership) I rang her mates her family etc No one had seen her. I did ring the Police who were brilliant.
A few days later she popped back in as if nothing had happened.

I did not marry this woman
She probably spent a few days sleeping on the floor of a "friends" flat..........was her name Di by any chance?
No am I missing a reference here ? Is it Princess Di ?

Vaud said:
Did she say where she had been?
Not initially but she was very defensive and belligerent which I found a bit off
I just got on with the jobs I was doing then went out to work (I did shifts then). I thought about it and to be blunt concluded if it happened now it would happen again and it wasn't for me. When I went home she wanted to talk I listened to her story of having met a friend she hasn't seen for ages and who had needed her help with I think a nodding concerned look. After a few minutes I said to her I've been thinking for a while that I'm not sure if this relationship will last its not you its me and I think its best I leave to give you time to work out what we both want to do.
No property was involved the flat was rented I went to stay at a workmates I went to the Landlords agent and said I was giving notice she might want to stay on. I forfeited the deposit and bond I had paid the bulk of and that was that. My stuff was moved out 2 days later when I knew she was at work. It obviously wasn't for me and I regret no part of it. Though I did lose some of my CD's.
I found out a bit later that she had essentially just ended up getting pissed and using E's
That probably accounted for her aggressiveness when she came back