UKIP - The Future - Volume 4

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mx5nut

5,404 posts

83 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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sidicks said:
Mx5nut speaking bks, as always.
Can't you use your crystal ball for more productive things than checking to make sure people don't regret their votes in future year? laugh

sidicks

25,218 posts

222 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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mx5nut said:
Can't you use your crystal ball for more productive things than checking to make sure people don't regret their votes in future year? laugh
You're the one making the crystal ball predictions, you idiot!

mx5nut

5,404 posts

83 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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sidicks said:
The usual angry abuse and insults in lieu of a point

jjlynn27

7,935 posts

110 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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mx5nut said:
Now you'll struggle to find anybody admitting to actually voting for them.

Brexit as a whole will likely be similar in years to come.
I doubt that, I most certainly wouldn't equate Brexit voters to UKIP trash.

sidicks

25,218 posts

222 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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jjlynn27 said:
I doubt that, I most certainly wouldn't equate Brexit voters to UKIP trash.
Stop taking my side!
beer

powerstroke

10,283 posts

161 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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B'stard Child said:
Jawknee was at least funny and had a level of commitment
No I think you would find his medication was more successful our sparky mate relies on cheap energy drink
reading the mirror and that EU comic paper ..which scrambles his brain and results in the regular outbursts ...biggrin

dandarez

13,290 posts

284 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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B'stard Child said:
ORD said:
It would be funny if the Kippers had not persuaded 52 per cent of the public to shoot themselves in the face.
Because of course that’s exactly what they did and exactly why it’s pretty pointless discussing anything Brxit related with you. If you’d said some (unquantified) of the 52% of those that voted June 16 I’d have agreed with the point but to state that 52 % of the public were persuaded to shoot themselves in the foot is bk - only 75% of the population that were eligible to vote did so.
ORD is 'painfully' funny. hehe

sidicks

25,218 posts

222 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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dandarez said:
ORD is 'painfully' funny. hehe
I want to know where I can get one of the forum filters that he's got where you are seemingly only able to see insults from those who disagree with you and be totally oblivious to the insults of those who share your opinion and, most incredibly, your own insults!

eharding

13,734 posts

285 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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BlackLabel said:
“A leading UKIP politician has quit the party saying its leader Henry Bolton is "not the right person for the job" and its influence over Brexit is waning.

Jonathan Arnott, MEP for the North East of England, said he had lost confidence in Mr Bolton but thought no better of those "jockeying" to replace him.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/...
UKIP collapsing at both the leadership and the grass-roots:

https://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/five-hartlep...

There are folk here banging on about voters switching to UKIP if they think Brexit is being reversed, but it really does look as if there won't be a UKIP to switch to. You can't vote for them if there isn't a name on the ballot paper.


sidicks

25,218 posts

222 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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eharding said:
UKIP collapsing at both the leadership and the grass-roots:

https://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/five-hartlep...

There are folk here banging on about voters switching to UKIP if they think Brexit is being reversed, but it really does look as if there won't be a UKIP to switch to. You can't vote for them if there isn't a name on the ballot paper.
I'm pretty sure that there will be an anti-EU party on the ballot paper if Brexit is reversed, even if it's not called UKIP! Indeed the evidence from the last election is that a significant number of mainstream voters previously supported UKIP only because of the anti-EU angle.

Edited by sidicks on Friday 19th January 20:39

alfie2244

11,292 posts

189 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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sidicks said:
eharding said:
UKIP collapsing at both the leadership and the grass-roots:

https://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/five-hartlep...

There are folk here banging on about voters switching to UKIP if they think Brexit is being reversed, but it really does look as if there won't be a UKIP to switch to. You can't vote for them if there isn't a name on the ballot paper.
I'm pretty sure that there will be an anti-EU party on the ballot paper if Brexit is reversed, even if it's not called UKIP! Indeed the evidence from the last election is that a significant number of mainstream voters previously supported UKIP only because of the anti-EU angle.

Edited by sidicks on Friday 19th January 20:39
Perhaps?

http://thepatrioticalliance.co.uk/wp-content/theme...

eharding

13,734 posts

285 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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sidicks said:
eharding said:
UKIP collapsing at both the leadership and the grass-roots:

https://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/five-hartlep...

There are folk here banging on about voters switching to UKIP if they think Brexit is being reversed, but it really does look as if there won't be a UKIP to switch to. You can't vote for them if there isn't a name on the ballot paper.
I'm pretty sure that there will be an anti-EU party on the ballot paper if Brexit is reversed, even if it's not called UKIP!
I don't think there will just be one - I suspect the rump hard-core UKIP remnants - given how much the various cabals seem to hate each other - will splinter into various balkanised factions - Real UKIP, Kontinuity Kippers, etc.

It'll be interesting to see what Arron Banks gets up to. He can't back all of them.

don'tbesilly

13,937 posts

164 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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ORD said:
It would be funny if the Kippers had not persuaded 52 per cent of the public to shoot themselves in the face.
ranting

I'd ask for some supporting evidence to back up such a claim, but apparently all your claims are ambiguous.

rofl........... silly

eharding

13,734 posts

285 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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alfie2244 said:
Aside from a £20 Wordpress site and a paragraph of vague guff, do they have anything else to say for themselves?



Deptford Draylons

10,480 posts

244 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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So the UK may see the end of what some people think is a fascist party , along with what I'm told here was their previous incarnation, the BNP. Not an unamusing thing given how the Brexit threads produce a constant stream of seventeen million racist Brexit voters , the country is now viewed racist and backward and the general doom and gloom along those lines.
Also not unamusing that when you look around Europe and see recent election results where far nastier people have made gains and even won power, the UK's tame racist party is all but gone.

alfie2244

11,292 posts

189 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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eharding said:
alfie2244 said:
Aside from a £20 Wordpress site and a paragraph of vague guff, do they have anything else to say for themselves?
It appears not but I think I remember seeing that Banks is at the helm of it...setting another party up perhaps?

Eddie Strohacker

3,879 posts

87 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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White Pendragons?

The seem loony enough to fill any vacuum. Facts are UKIP were a pack of fringe nutters, harbouring all sorts of care in the community casualties you'd cross the road to avoid. It took a once in a generation charismatic polly in Farage to hold the whole thing together for just long enough to get the job done & as soon as he exits, the whole thing falls apart in a toxic mix of purposelessness & the loony dam breaking.

If UKIP fold, another bunch may come along, but they'll need to get their st together pronto to have any kind of impact on anything & find a backer & figurehead who can do the business & they don't grow on trees.

alfie2244

11,292 posts

189 months

eharding

13,734 posts

285 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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alfie2244 said:
Interesting. The 'thepatrioticalliance.co.uk' domain was registered the day after that article was published - whereas 'patrioticalliance.co.uk' was registered in January 2017, also by a bloke called Banks - but given the address, I don't think he's a relative.


mx5nut

5,404 posts

83 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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Eddie Strohacker said:
White Pendragons?

The seem loony enough to fill any vacuum. Facts are UKIP were a pack of fringe nutters, harbouring all sorts of care in the community casualties you'd cross the road to avoid. It took a once in a generation charismatic polly in Farage to hold the whole thing together for just long enough to get the job done & as soon as he exits, the whole thing falls apart in a toxic mix of purposelessness & the loony dam breaking.

If UKIP fold, another bunch may come along, but they'll need to get their st together pronto to have any kind of impact on anything & find a backer & figurehead who can do the business & they don't grow on trees.
Things don't seem to be going too well for Farage since Trump ditched him. He may be back in the top job at UKIP himself if he gets his wish for a second referendum.