UKIP - The Future - Volume 4

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amusingduck

9,398 posts

137 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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chrispmartha said:
I don't believe that, at all.

I watched a fair few of his videos about the Patreon drama, and a few of his others, and none of them contained behaviour even remotely approaching that.

chrispmartha

15,514 posts

130 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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amusingduck said:
chrispmartha said:
I don't believe that, at all.

I watched a fair few of his videos about the Patreon drama, and a few of his others, and none of them contained behaviour even remotely approaching that.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/ukip-mep-carl-benjamin-racist-video-a4126986.html

Well he doesn't seem to be denying it

"A Ukip MEP candidate said "personally, I find racist jokes funny" after a video was uncovered in which he made offensive remarks."

He sounds like a lovely chap

amusingduck

9,398 posts

137 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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chrispmartha said:
amusingduck said:
chrispmartha said:
I don't believe that, at all.

I watched a fair few of his videos about the Patreon drama, and a few of his others, and none of them contained behaviour even remotely approaching that.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/ukip-mep-carl-benjamin-racist-video-a4126986.html

Well he doesn't seem to be denying it
standard said:
When an woman explains it is not acceptable to call Asian people “c***k”, Mr Benjamin replies: "You lose! It's actually just f****** fine and I'll tell you why – because Asians are privileged."
He then tells the woman to “f*** off” and adds that it is “OK” for him to use the racist term “because racism is power plus prejudice".
I've never heard him voice a political opinion even remotely along those lines either, so if I had to guess, I'd say he's using the argument itself to prove just how ridiculous it is.

If anyone can find a video, with context, of him being racist - I'll donate £20 to a charity of your choice. This stinks IMO. I knew the media was biased, but this looks so distorted from my experiences as to be essentially fabricated. I hope I'm wrong about him, rather than the state of the media eek

Not-The-Messiah

3,620 posts

82 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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chrispmartha said:
amusingduck said:
chrispmartha said:
I don't believe that, at all.

I watched a fair few of his videos about the Patreon drama, and a few of his others, and none of them contained behaviour even remotely approaching that.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/ukip-mep-carl-benjamin-racist-video-a4126986.html

Well he doesn't seem to be denying it

"A Ukip MEP candidate said "personally, I find racist jokes funny" after a video was uncovered in which he made offensive remarks."

He sounds like a lovely chap
He sounds like a normal human being and not a pretentious virtuous pick half the people seem to have become.

tangerine_sedge

4,808 posts

219 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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Not-The-Messiah said:
He sounds like a normal human being and not a pretentious virtuous pick half the people seem to have become.
But he's not a normal person, he's standing to be an MEP (*1).

(*1) but that hardly matters because UKIP are now irrelevant and only attracts a certain type of voter. Uncle Nigel has now stolen the less swivel eyed of the remaining UKIP loons.

And then she

4,399 posts

126 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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Not-The-Messiah said:
chrispmartha said:
amusingduck said:
chrispmartha said:
I don't believe that, at all.

I watched a fair few of his videos about the Patreon drama, and a few of his others, and none of them contained behaviour even remotely approaching that.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/ukip-mep-carl-benjamin-racist-video-a4126986.html

Well he doesn't seem to be denying it

"A Ukip MEP candidate said "personally, I find racist jokes funny" after a video was uncovered in which he made offensive remarks."

He sounds like a lovely chap
He sounds like a normal human being and not a pretentious virtuous pick half the people seem to have become.
Wow.

Nickgnome

8,277 posts

90 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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And then she said:
Wow.
Yes we get some right cheeky chappies here. Larger percentage of Neanderthal in their gene make up may be?

NJH

3,021 posts

210 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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https://news.sky.com/video/ukip-candidate-talks-ab...

Like I said earlier, he is the gift that will keep giving.

bitchstewie

51,459 posts

211 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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NJH said:
https://news.sky.com/video/ukip-candidate-talks-ab...

Like I said earlier, he is the gift that will keep giving.
What a nasty piece of work.

rscott

14,773 posts

192 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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bhstewie said:
NJH said:
https://news.sky.com/video/ukip-candidate-talks-ab...

Like I said earlier, he is the gift that will keep giving.
What a nasty piece of work.
The Twitter account "operated on his behalf" has been suspended. (He'd already been permanently banned)

Piha

7,150 posts

93 months

Saturday 27th April 2019
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Not-The-Messiah said:
He sounds like a normal human being and not a pretentious virtuous pick half the people seem to have become.
nono

hidetheelephants

24,511 posts

194 months

Saturday 27th April 2019
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rscott said:
The Twitter account "operated on his behalf" has been suspended. (He'd already been permanently banned)
Given the wide variety of bottom feeders who dwell in twitterland without being banned, that marks this person as quite special.

bitchstewie

51,459 posts

211 months

Saturday 27th April 2019
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hidetheelephants said:
rscott said:
The Twitter account "operated on his behalf" has been suspended. (He'd already been permanently banned)
Given the wide variety of bottom feeders who dwell in twitterland without being banned, that marks this person as quite special.
Yes it does make you wonder.

Interesting that the word "context" seems to come up quite a lot in articles about him.

Almost as if everyone who finds him odious is missing something.

Or he's just a nasty piece of work.

Not-The-Messiah

3,620 posts

82 months

Saturday 27th April 2019
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hidetheelephants said:
rscott said:
The Twitter account "operated on his behalf" has been suspended. (He'd already been permanently banned)
Given the wide variety of bottom feeders who dwell in twitterland without being banned, that marks this person as quite special.
Not really it's just a unaccountable foreign company in away directly interfering in our democracy.

Can you imagine if it was the Russians that came up with social media first. And Twitter Facebook Google where all Russian companies and they were banning political candidates from there platforms.

smn159

12,727 posts

218 months

Saturday 27th April 2019
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Not-The-Messiah said:
Not really it's just a unaccountable foreign company in away directly interfering in our democracy.

Can you imagine if it was the Russians that came up with social media first. And Twitter Facebook Google where all Russian companies and they were banning political candidates from there platforms.
Well I recognise all of those words, but I've never seen them used in that order before

tangerine_sedge

4,808 posts

219 months

Saturday 27th April 2019
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Not-The-Messiah said:
Not really it's just a unaccountable foreign company in away directly interfering in our democracy.

Can you imagine if it was the Russians that came up with social media first. And Twitter Facebook Google where all Russian companies and they were banning political candidates from there platforms.
Look squirrels!

He's still able to spout his hate and bile on any street corner. The difference being he won't get banned, he'll get punched in the mouth.

It's almost like UKIP attracts these narcassistic idiots with vile viewpoints. You're a Kipper aren't you?


NJH

3,021 posts

210 months

Saturday 27th April 2019
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tangerine_sedge said:
It's almost like UKIP attracts these narcassistic idiots with vile viewpoints.
By having that guy as a candidate they are pretty much making a clear message that UKIP is the natural home for such people.

smn159

12,727 posts

218 months

Saturday 27th April 2019
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tangerine_sedge said:
It's almost like UKIP attracts these narcassistic idiots with vile viewpoints. You're a Kipper aren't you?
hehe

amusingduck

9,398 posts

137 months

Saturday 27th April 2019
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hidetheelephants said:
rscott said:
The Twitter account "operated on his behalf" has been suspended. (He'd already been permanently banned)
Given the wide variety of bottom feeders who dwell in twitterland without being banned, that marks this person as quite special.
Can't find the reason why he was banned for Twitter, but I did find this

oneangrygamer.net said:
Sargon had been suspended from Twitter before, including one instance where he was sending interacial gay porn to members of the Alt-Right, but this time Twitter offered no leeway in lifting the suspension.
RationalWiki said:
As of November 2018, Benjamin's main channel had over 859,000 subscribers and 251 million views,[13] and he made over $12,300 per month ($147,600 per year) on Patreon.[14] However, in December 2018, Benjamin was banned from Patreon, cutting off much of his income. This was because he got in a spat with white supremacists and made the mistake of trying to use their language (slurs) against them (calling them "white n-words", calling them "faggots", accusing them of acting like "n-words"). How he intended it doesn't matter, however, as it violated Patreon's hate speech policy. This is similar to how Benjamin got suspended from Twitter for tweeting porn at white nationalists, where he made a similar mistake of sending provocative posts to extremists that follow him. Also, his fellow right-wingers mass-reported him.[15]
I changed the n-word to "n-word" in the above quote. That sounds like exactly what he'd do given my experiences of him, but does that make him a racist?

bitchstewie

51,459 posts

211 months

Saturday 27th April 2019
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amusingduck said:
I changed the n-word to "n-word" in the above quote. That sounds like exactly what he'd do given my experiences of him, but does that make him a racist?
Why did you feel the need to change the "n-word" to "n-word"?

Is it because the Pistonheads swear filter is censoring you or is because you're a decent person so you understand that you just don't say that?

In which case why should it be different for Benjamin?