Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 7
Discussion
Nick Grant said:
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11:56 AM on 05/11/2016 I am glad the fake/faux protesters were removed. The camp was a UK state psy-op set with the purpose of trying to make the Yes vote & the SNP look unprofessional. They failed. As for the UK State Agent Provocatuer/fake protester who openly threatened the First Minister on STV last night should be subject to a legal complaint at least, and named and shamed publicly. Secondly the genius of letting the camp remain there so long was to allow all, the liablities, plants, agent provocateurs, and special branch plants, all to be openly aired at the camp was a stroke of tactical genius. Come the next referendum, these people will not be allowed anywhere near the official campaign in any form whatsoever. Niccolò Machiavelli would have applauded the subtle tactic behind this ....... Third point: It was interesting that the Scottish media based in Glasgow were told/instructed to "sell-up" the fake protesters has "independence campaigners". In fact the Scottish media bent over backwards to offer them advertising , selling-up the idea they were something they were not. That will not be forgotten for a very long time news editors............. Fourth point: Ever since the UK state as given GCHQ, and other cyber propaganda units in the Deep State (A'la '33 Unit) the legal means to engage in cyber warfare ( with no legal or political mandate whatsoever based on 23% of all votes, and an unelected Prime Minister in the form of Theresa May) , there has been an increase of about 40% increase in negative internet traffic on Scottish news websites. In particular both the Daily Record , and Scotsman.com have had there forums swamped/hijacked by malware, bots and organised gang voting on an industrial scale over the last 6 months. There is also evidence of an electronic footprint that bots & malware have been used on scotsman.com to manipulate comment voting here. At one point there was close to almost 150 downvotes against anything pro SNP, whilst at the same time not a single pro vote/ "thumbs-up" vote was registered. the statistical probability of this would be about 400 to 1 of this happening. The web editors of both the Daily Record & Scotsman.com need to do a major "clean up" of their websites, and see if their sites are infected with state sponsored malware and malbots. Dont say you havent been warned......
11:56 AM on 05/11/2016 I am glad the fake/faux protesters were removed. The camp was a UK state psy-op set with the purpose of trying to make the Yes vote & the SNP look unprofessional. They failed. As for the UK State Agent Provocatuer/fake protester who openly threatened the First Minister on STV last night should be subject to a legal complaint at least, and named and shamed publicly. Secondly the genius of letting the camp remain there so long was to allow all, the liablities, plants, agent provocateurs, and special branch plants, all to be openly aired at the camp was a stroke of tactical genius. Come the next referendum, these people will not be allowed anywhere near the official campaign in any form whatsoever. Niccolò Machiavelli would have applauded the subtle tactic behind this ....... Third point: It was interesting that the Scottish media based in Glasgow were told/instructed to "sell-up" the fake protesters has "independence campaigners". In fact the Scottish media bent over backwards to offer them advertising , selling-up the idea they were something they were not. That will not be forgotten for a very long time news editors............. Fourth point: Ever since the UK state as given GCHQ, and other cyber propaganda units in the Deep State (A'la '33 Unit) the legal means to engage in cyber warfare ( with no legal or political mandate whatsoever based on 23% of all votes, and an unelected Prime Minister in the form of Theresa May) , there has been an increase of about 40% increase in negative internet traffic on Scottish news websites. In particular both the Daily Record , and Scotsman.com have had there forums swamped/hijacked by malware, bots and organised gang voting on an industrial scale over the last 6 months. There is also evidence of an electronic footprint that bots & malware have been used on scotsman.com to manipulate comment voting here. At one point there was close to almost 150 downvotes against anything pro SNP, whilst at the same time not a single pro vote/ "thumbs-up" vote was registered. the statistical probability of this would be about 400 to 1 of this happening. The web editors of both the Daily Record & Scotsman.com need to do a major "clean up" of their websites, and see if their sites are infected with state sponsored malware and malbots. Dont say you havent been warned......
Nick Grant said:
simoid said:
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.edinburghnews.sco...
They've finally been able to kick the scroungers out of Holyrood.
(No, not those ones...)
See the comments under that article...They've finally been able to kick the scroungers out of Holyrood.
(No, not those ones...)
11:56 AM on 05/11/2016 I am glad the fake/faux protesters were removed. The camp was a UK state psy-op set with the purpose of trying to make the Yes vote & the SNP look unprofessional. They failed. As for the UK State Agent Provocatuer/fake protester who openly threatened the First Minister on STV last night should be subject to a legal complaint at least, and named and shamed publicly. Secondly the genius of letting the camp remain there so long was to allow all, the liablities, plants, agent provocateurs, and special branch plants, all to be openly aired at the camp was a stroke of tactical genius. Come the next referendum, these people will not be allowed anywhere near the official campaign in any form whatsoever. Niccolò Machiavelli would have applauded the subtle tactic behind this ....... Third point: It was interesting that the Scottish media based in Glasgow were told/instructed to "sell-up" the fake protesters has "independence campaigners". In fact the Scottish media bent over backwards to offer them advertising , selling-up the idea they were something they were not. That will not be forgotten for a very long time news editors............. Fourth point: Ever since the UK state as given GCHQ, and other cyber propaganda units in the Deep State (A'la '33 Unit) the legal means to engage in cyber warfare ( with no legal or political mandate whatsoever based on 23% of all votes, and an unelected Prime Minister in the form of Theresa May) , there has been an increase of about 40% increase in negative internet traffic on Scottish news websites. In particular both the Daily Record , and Scotsman.com have had there forums swamped/hijacked by malware, bots and organised gang voting on an industrial scale over the last 6 months. There is also evidence of an electronic footprint that bots & malware have been used on scotsman.com to manipulate comment voting here. At one point there was close to almost 150 downvotes against anything pro SNP, whilst at the same time not a single pro vote/ "thumbs-up" vote was registered. the statistical probability of this would be about 400 to 1 of this happening. The web editors of both the Daily Record & Scotsman.com need to do a major "clean up" of their websites, and see if their sites are infected with state sponsored malware and malbots. Dont say you havent been warned......
General Price said:
Nick Grant said:
See the comments under that article...
11:56 AM on 05/11/2016 I am glad the fake/faux protesters were removed. The camp was a UK state psy-op set with the purpose of trying to make the Yes vote & the SNP look unprofessional. They failed. As for the UK State Agent Provocatuer/fake protester who openly threatened the First Minister on STV last night should be subject to a legal complaint at least, and named and shamed publicly. Secondly the genius of letting the camp remain there so long was to allow all, the liablities, plants, agent provocateurs, and special branch plants, all to be openly aired at the camp was a stroke of tactical genius. Come the next referendum, these people will not be allowed anywhere near the official campaign in any form whatsoever. Niccolò Machiavelli would have applauded the subtle tactic behind this ....... Third point: It was interesting that the Scottish media based in Glasgow were told/instructed to "sell-up" the fake protesters has "independence campaigners". In fact the Scottish media bent over backwards to offer them advertising , selling-up the idea they were something they were not. That will not be forgotten for a very long time news editors............. Fourth point: Ever since the UK state as given GCHQ, and other cyber propaganda units in the Deep State (A'la '33 Unit) the legal means to engage in cyber warfare ( with no legal or political mandate whatsoever based on 23% of all votes, and an unelected Prime Minister in the form of Theresa May) , there has been an increase of about 40% increase in negative internet traffic on Scottish news websites. In particular both the Daily Record , and Scotsman.com have had there forums swamped/hijacked by malware, bots and organised gang voting on an industrial scale over the last 6 months. There is also evidence of an electronic footprint that bots & malware have been used on scotsman.com to manipulate comment voting here. At one point there was close to almost 150 downvotes against anything pro SNP, whilst at the same time not a single pro vote/ "thumbs-up" vote was registered. the statistical probability of this would be about 400 to 1 of this happening. The web editors of both the Daily Record & Scotsman.com need to do a major "clean up" of their websites, and see if their sites are infected with state sponsored malware and malbots. Dont say you havent been warned......
11:56 AM on 05/11/2016 I am glad the fake/faux protesters were removed. The camp was a UK state psy-op set with the purpose of trying to make the Yes vote & the SNP look unprofessional. They failed. As for the UK State Agent Provocatuer/fake protester who openly threatened the First Minister on STV last night should be subject to a legal complaint at least, and named and shamed publicly. Secondly the genius of letting the camp remain there so long was to allow all, the liablities, plants, agent provocateurs, and special branch plants, all to be openly aired at the camp was a stroke of tactical genius. Come the next referendum, these people will not be allowed anywhere near the official campaign in any form whatsoever. Niccolò Machiavelli would have applauded the subtle tactic behind this ....... Third point: It was interesting that the Scottish media based in Glasgow were told/instructed to "sell-up" the fake protesters has "independence campaigners". In fact the Scottish media bent over backwards to offer them advertising , selling-up the idea they were something they were not. That will not be forgotten for a very long time news editors............. Fourth point: Ever since the UK state as given GCHQ, and other cyber propaganda units in the Deep State (A'la '33 Unit) the legal means to engage in cyber warfare ( with no legal or political mandate whatsoever based on 23% of all votes, and an unelected Prime Minister in the form of Theresa May) , there has been an increase of about 40% increase in negative internet traffic on Scottish news websites. In particular both the Daily Record , and Scotsman.com have had there forums swamped/hijacked by malware, bots and organised gang voting on an industrial scale over the last 6 months. There is also evidence of an electronic footprint that bots & malware have been used on scotsman.com to manipulate comment voting here. At one point there was close to almost 150 downvotes against anything pro SNP, whilst at the same time not a single pro vote/ "thumbs-up" vote was registered. the statistical probability of this would be about 400 to 1 of this happening. The web editors of both the Daily Record & Scotsman.com need to do a major "clean up" of their websites, and see if their sites are infected with state sponsored malware and malbots. Dont say you havent been warned......
A message to Nicola Sturgeon, right from the heart of her own party.
I have said it all along - Sturgeon would lose a second indyref by a larger margin than the first if she called it on a platform of Scotland remaining within the EU. The SNP are as divided as any other party over the issue of Europe, with the majority of long term members very much against involvement.
I have said it all along - Sturgeon would lose a second indyref by a larger margin than the first if she called it on a platform of Scotland remaining within the EU. The SNP are as divided as any other party over the issue of Europe, with the majority of long term members very much against involvement.
r11co said:
A message to Nicola Sturgeon, right from the heart of her own party.
I have said it all along - Sturgeon would lose a second indyref by a larger margin than the first if she called it on a platform of Scotland remaining within the EU. The SNP are as divided as any other party over the issue of Europe, with the majority of long term members very much against involvement.
Isn't it more likely that the SNP supporters en masse would choose the independence option, and worry about the EU later?I have said it all along - Sturgeon would lose a second indyref by a larger margin than the first if she called it on a platform of Scotland remaining within the EU. The SNP are as divided as any other party over the issue of Europe, with the majority of long term members very much against involvement.
I suppose many of the 45% from last time may choose the U.K. over the EU though.
http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/10bn-china-d...
Well well - China calling it the "Scottish Shambles".
A laughing stock on the global stage. Also means zero credibility
Well well - China calling it the "Scottish Shambles".
A laughing stock on the global stage. Also means zero credibility
Welshbeef said:
http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/10bn-china-d...
Well well - China calling it the "Scottish Shambles".
A laughing stock on the global stage. Also means zero credibility
Truth-be-told, the deal was questionable because of the history of the companies involved, but the mistake the SNP made was to make such a big deal of the announcement. It exposed their lack of due diligence, and the expiry of the MoU was almost certainly deliberate.Well well - China calling it the "Scottish Shambles".
A laughing stock on the global stage. Also means zero credibility
Typical of the SNP though to blame 'the opposition' for the failure of the deal. All 'the opposition' did was point out that the two Chinese companies the Scottish Government planned to deal with had already been blacklisted by the Norwegian government (so I guess it was the Norwegian government's fault too).
It was a bad move on their part from the start, but the SNP are total strangers to legitimate criticism.
Edited by r11co on Monday 7th November 10:22
Well well, who knew?
Looks like Holyrood gets to decide on Brexit or not.
I would have thought that Brexit was a devolved matter and MP's would be having a say, not the people who decide when the bins get emptied.
Looks like Holyrood gets to decide on Brexit or not.
Someone with ideas above his station said:
Scotland’s Brexit minister has warned that a “huge political force” will be unleashed if MSPs refuse to give consent for leaving the EU – but the UK Government “bulldoze” ahead with it anyway.
Mike Russell said it was possible that judges could rule that Holyrood would have to agree to Brexit before it could happen.
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/scotlands-brexit-minister-warns-theresa-9212051Mike Russell said it was possible that judges could rule that Holyrood would have to agree to Brexit before it could happen.
I would have thought that Brexit was a devolved matter and MP's would be having a say, not the people who decide when the bins get emptied.
Daily Record said:
Mike Russell said it was possible that judges could rule that Holyrood would have to agree to Brexit before it could happen.
They could also rule that Mike Russell is a supercilious prick who should have stayed retired. This is the man who completely fked up the Scottish Education system, leaving John Swinney to try and reconstruct something from the pieces.It demonstrates the dearth of talent in the SNP that they keep having to recycle failed politicians like Russell. I guess they were hoping that he'd stayed far enough under the national radar so that the Brexit negotiators wouldn't remember what an arrogant useless he was.
Edited by r11co on Tuesday 8th November 11:29
Now we have Trump as the US President, its the beginning of the end for the nats and their socialist, nanny state.
Once we see how well the US sorts itself out, and we tell the euros to fk off, it'll affect things and attitudes here! The economic divide will get worse here and force us Scots to rethink this socialist world they think is best for them!!
NS must be stting herself this morning, and I'm fking loving it! ..
Once we see how well the US sorts itself out, and we tell the euros to fk off, it'll affect things and attitudes here! The economic divide will get worse here and force us Scots to rethink this socialist world they think is best for them!!
NS must be stting herself this morning, and I'm fking loving it! ..
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