Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 7

[wobert]

Troubleatmill said:

Sturgeon looked shell shocked here.
Her bluff has been called. Put up or shut up time.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-pol...

I just watched that, her body language and mannerisms show she's had the rug firmly pulled from beneath her feet.

She's now between rock and a hard place with no room to manoeuvre. No way out and as you say put up or shut-up.

What a pity..... :-)

[technodup]

What the fk is she talking about? On May- "an inability to engage in discussions" [with her].

There's a difference between 'inability to' and 'unwilling to' and 'undeserving of'.

May's not giving you a say because you are a gobste wee runt with no influence whatsoever. Likewise the EU give you no say because, well, see above.

And as for 'workers protections'- what sort of dog whistle red herring pish is that? The UK has for centuries legislated for better working conditions, progress doesn't start and stop at the door of the EU. The way she havers you'd think the EU was the only thing keeping us out the workhouse.

Bring your diddy wee referendum and let's see if you can persuade us the last decade hasn't been a total waste of time.

[B'stard Child]

technodup said:

What the fk is she talking about? On May- "an inability to engage in discussions" [with her].

There's a difference between 'inability to' and 'unwilling to' and 'undeserving of'.

May's not giving you a say because you are a gobste wee runt with no influence whatsoever. Likewise the EU give you no say because, well, see above.

And as for 'workers protections'- what sort of dog whistle red herring pish is that? The UK has for centuries legislated for better working conditions, progress doesn't start and stop at the door of the EU. The way she havers you'd think the EU was the only thing keeping us out the workhouse.

Bring your diddy wee referendum and let's see if you can persuade us the last decade hasn't been a total waste of time.

11/10

I'd have given it a higher score but there was insufficient engagement of the swear filter.......

[dromong]

Where she / it / he / Turdyin says "The type of Country we are going to be" she / it / he / Turdyin puts major emphasis on the first 4 letters, its what she / he /it / Turdyin is after all.

[Starfighter]

On what authority does to poisoned dwarf think she can call another referendum?

The last attempt required an act to be passed in the Westminster parliament not Holyrood. She would need the same agin to have any legal bearing on rUK.

[davepoth]

Starfighter said:

On what authority does to poisoned dwarf think she can call another referendum?

The last attempt required an act to be passed in the Westminster parliament not Holyrood. She would need the same agin to have any legal bearing on rUK.

She can't. If she could she would have called it by now. Even if she wants one, Westminster is "quite busy" for the next two years.

[Troubleatmill]

Sturgeon now has a choice.

1/ Go balls out for a referendum that all of the statistics says she will get her arse handed to her on a plate.
2/ STFU

Either way... she is screwed

If..
1/ Independence is dead for 100+ years and all credibility is lost.
2/ All credibility is lost

What she thought her shoe in to the top job..is really a poisoned chalice.
She isn't thinking about Scotland right now....but her own career and self interests.

Norway just told her to f*** off.
Spain told her years ago
Vivian Redding from the EU said ... Independent Scotland = Outside EU
The list goes on...


Sturgeon is not quite in last chance saloon...but she is damned close.
Expect :
a/ F*** it... We go balls out.
b/ Somehow she disappears from daytime telly - and gets on with the job in hand
c/ Some family illness etc etc... dictates she retires from politics.


She has no winning hand. And no-one of importance will entertain her.

[B'stard Child]

Troubleatmill said:

Sturgeon now has a choice.

1/ Go balls out for a referendum that all of the statistics says she will get her arse handed to her on a plate.
2/ STFU

Either way... she is screwed

If..
1/ Independence is dead for 100+ years and all credibility is lost.
2/ All credibility is lost

What she thought her shoe in to the top job..is really a poisoned chalice.
She isn't thinking about Scotland right now....but her own career and self interests.

Norway just told her to f*** off.
Spain told her years ago
Vivian Redding from the EU said ... Independent Scotland = Outside EU
The list goes on...


Sturgeon is not quite in last chance saloon...but she is damned close.
Expect :
a/ F*** it... We go balls out.
b/ Somehow she disappears from daytime telly - and gets on with the job in hand
c/ Some family illness etc etc... dictates she retires from politics.


She has no winning hand. And no-one of importance will entertain her.

I for one am very sorry that it has reached that point.

a) I'll have a fiver on it

[powerstroke]

Starfighter said:

On what authority does to poisoned dwarf think she can call another referendum?

The last attempt required an act to be passed in the Westminster parliament not Holyrood. She would need the same agin to have any legal bearing on rUK.

I think if she keeps wining on about this and other issues May should call her bluff and say shall we have that referendum ??? no !! ok then
shut the fk up and lets try to do something that will make things better for the average Scot instead shall we ??

[GreigM]

Starfighter said:

On what authority does to poisoned dwarf think she can call another referendum?

The last attempt required an act to be passed in the Westminster parliament not Holyrood. She would need the same agin to have any legal bearing on rUK.

She could call a referendum. If there was a strong turnout and it was for independence it would be hard for Westminster to simply ignore.

However anything other than a crushing win would simply be ignored and would look a bit desperate, possibly with some sort of retaliation by an empowered Westminster.

At this point Sturgeon is bluffing. Thumping her chest as it looks good to her supporters, while praying that Westminster don't call her bluff and call a referendum for her. I for one would like May to call a quick indyref2 to get it over and done with forever. It isn't winnable for the SNP and might bring some sense back to Scottish politics when it isn't all just about independence.

[Troubleatmill]

B'stard Child said:

I for one am very sorry that it has reached that point.

a) I'll have a fiver on it

I will take that bet..on the basis that she doesn't shout "I want a referendum now" or words to that effect before (Is it 2019?? Brexit stuff engaged )

And sod it... why don't we put our £5's into our favourite charities.
I was inclined to say Bibles for Belgians.... but I will opt for Doctors without Borders/ medicines sans frontiers
( Aid given without Holy books etc etc ... just doing what is right )

[Sylvaforever]

To call indyref 2 would legitimise the SNP.

[technodup]

Troubleatmill said:

Sturgeon now has a choice.

1/ Go balls out for a referendum that all of the statistics says she will get her arse handed to her on a plate.
2/ STFU

Either way... she is screwed

You missed

3/ Carp endlessly from the sidelines for two years or until the final outcome of Brexit is clear, then maybe (or not) have another go.

So basically no change. I know where my money would be.

The longer she leaves it the more fked she is imo. More and more Scots will be sick of the sight/sound of her, her predicted Brexit disaster won't happen (and if it does all the more reason not to have another split), and let's remember she still hasn't addressed the issues from last time.

She's already shot her load. And it was the stty, watery dribble of a teenager on his fifth wk of the day. fk all left in the tank.

[B'stard Child]

Troubleatmill said:

B'stard Child said:

I for one am very sorry that it has reached that point.

a) I'll have a fiver on it

I will take that bet..on the basis that she doesn't shout "I want a referendum now" or words to that effect before (Is it 2019?? Brexit stuff engaged )

And sod it... why don't we put our £5's into our favourite charities.
I was inclined to say Bibles for Belgians.... but I will opt for Doctors without Borders/ medicines sans frontiers
( Aid given without Holy books etc etc ... just doing what is right )

Can I do either a "cat protection" or "Battersea Dogs home" I'm a cat person but I sometimes think dogs need more help after xmas and they are both way better than some humans on this planet.....

So agreement is she has to "demand a Referendum" in a proper meaningful way as opposed to mentioning it a million times a day like a stuck record...

Even if I lose (and I don't think I will) or even if I win I'm still chucking a fiver at one or other charity - OK?

[GG89]

Speaking as a Scot we are mostly VERY fking sick and tired of nippy and her delusional cult, I hope they push for indy2 because that will properly finish them off.

[mickytruelove]

Little hitler (nicola sturgeon) only policy is independence, and nothing more. Really fks me off because i live in scotland.

She is so sure scotland can leave the UK and join the EU... wait a second, All 27 other countries need to agree and spain will tell scotland where to go. If they let scotland in then Catalonia will be wanting to split from Spain and join the EU.

i have a lot of friends that are SNP supporters but i stil cant figure out how they were brain washed.. maybe it was the russians.

[wc98]

technodup said:

ou missed

3/ Carp endlessly from the sidelines for two years or until the final outcome of Brexit is clear, then maybe (or not) have another go.

So basically no change. I know where my money would be.

The longer she leaves it the more fked she is imo. More and more Scots will be sick of the sight/sound of her, her predicted Brexit disaster won't happen (and if it does all the more reason not to have another split), and let's remember she still hasn't addressed the issues from last time.

She's already shot her load. And it was the stty, watery dribble of a teenager on his fifth wk of the day. fk all left in the tank.

this is how i see it going. once brexit is sorted i would like to see a push to scrap the devolved parliaments. they are an unnecessary extra layer of bureaucracy we can ill afford at the moment . they are full of whiny second raters that seem incapable of rational thought, never mind doing the job they are paid to do efficiently.

[anonymous-user]

Thanks for the link I watched her with interest. I think her make up looked like it had been trowelled on and I think she is looking under the weather a bit

[powerstroke]

techiedave said:

Thanks for the link I watched her with interest. I think her make up looked like it had been trowelled on and I think she is looking under the weather a bit

So she won't be replacing Diane as your favorite pin up politician ???

[anonymous-user]

powerstroke said:

techiedave said:

Thanks for the link I watched her with interest. I think her make up looked like it had been trowelled on and I think she is looking under the weather a bit

So she won't be replacing Diane as your favorite pin up politician ???

No one could replace Di. There are practical reasons as well as desires of the groin. Admiring Di means I cant be called racist all too important these days,
Not fooling around for a minute and genuinely being serious. I have always thought that in her interviews Ms Sturgeon is quite well presented put another way looking reasonably smart and with " sympathetic" make up job on. In that one she didn't and looked tired drawn and actually unwell.