Pamplona Running of the Bulls
Discussion
I think it was Earnest Hemmingway that said only Bullfighting and motor racing were sports, the rest are just games.
It is a subject that will always raise the hackles of many, we are cruel to animals as are animals to each other. People who say they eat meant as the beasts have had a humane death have never been in an abattoir, which ever way you look at it death is cruel.
The trouble with most things is people always want to ban everything, it is up to the Spanish what they allow and do not allow why should we dictate?
There are a lot of people who will spout off and yet go and support Spain by holidaying there why if it is so abhorrent?
Some will say this is cruel, yet go fishing, or will go and watch the grand national and horse racing and miss the irony of it.
I am not a supporter of bullfighting but I support that it is a choice for those who want to run with the bulls or watch bullfighting, in the same way as I support allowing men and women to deliberately try to knock each other out.
It is a subject that will always raise the hackles of many, we are cruel to animals as are animals to each other. People who say they eat meant as the beasts have had a humane death have never been in an abattoir, which ever way you look at it death is cruel.
The trouble with most things is people always want to ban everything, it is up to the Spanish what they allow and do not allow why should we dictate?
There are a lot of people who will spout off and yet go and support Spain by holidaying there why if it is so abhorrent?
Some will say this is cruel, yet go fishing, or will go and watch the grand national and horse racing and miss the irony of it.
I am not a supporter of bullfighting but I support that it is a choice for those who want to run with the bulls or watch bullfighting, in the same way as I support allowing men and women to deliberately try to knock each other out.
spaximus said:
I think it was Earnest Hemmingway that said only Bullfighting and motor racing were sports, the rest are just games.
It is a subject that will always raise the hackles of many, we are cruel to animals as are animals to each other. People who say they eat meant as the beasts have had a humane death have never been in an abattoir, which ever way you look at it death is cruel.
The trouble with most things is people always want to ban everything, it is up to the Spanish what they allow and do not allow why should we dictate?
If the Spanish stoned homosexuals and encouraged rape of children then should we ignore that too or is it just cruelty to animals that can be ignored?It is a subject that will always raise the hackles of many, we are cruel to animals as are animals to each other. People who say they eat meant as the beasts have had a humane death have never been in an abattoir, which ever way you look at it death is cruel.
The trouble with most things is people always want to ban everything, it is up to the Spanish what they allow and do not allow why should we dictate?
greygoose said:
spaximus said:
I think it was Earnest Hemmingway that said only Bullfighting and motor racing were sports, the rest are just games.
It is a subject that will always raise the hackles of many, we are cruel to animals as are animals to each other. People who say they eat meant as the beasts have had a humane death have never been in an abattoir, which ever way you look at it death is cruel.
The trouble with most things is people always want to ban everything, it is up to the Spanish what they allow and do not allow why should we dictate?
If the Spanish stoned homosexuals and encouraged rape of children then should we ignore that too or is it just cruelty to animals that can be ignored?It is a subject that will always raise the hackles of many, we are cruel to animals as are animals to each other. People who say they eat meant as the beasts have had a humane death have never been in an abattoir, which ever way you look at it death is cruel.
The trouble with most things is people always want to ban everything, it is up to the Spanish what they allow and do not allow why should we dictate?
greygoose said:
spaximus said:
I think it was Earnest Hemmingway that said only Bullfighting and motor racing were sports, the rest are just games.
It is a subject that will always raise the hackles of many, we are cruel to animals as are animals to each other. People who say they eat meant as the beasts have had a humane death have never been in an abattoir, which ever way you look at it death is cruel.
The trouble with most things is people always want to ban everything, it is up to the Spanish what they allow and do not allow why should we dictate?
If the Spanish stoned homosexuals and encouraged rape of children then should we ignore that too or is it just cruelty to animals that can be ignored?It is a subject that will always raise the hackles of many, we are cruel to animals as are animals to each other. People who say they eat meant as the beasts have had a humane death have never been in an abattoir, which ever way you look at it death is cruel.
The trouble with most things is people always want to ban everything, it is up to the Spanish what they allow and do not allow why should we dictate?
Your comparison is crass, but lets be honest killing Homosexuals by Isis is real and yet we have not seen the sort of outrage we witnessed when they kill badgers or hunt a fox from the UK animal rights brigade.
spaximus said:
it death is cruel.
Some will say this is cruel, yet go fishing, or will go and watch the grand national and horse racing and miss the irony of it.
life is cruel death is finale.Some will say this is cruel, yet go fishing, or will go and watch the grand national and horse racing and miss the irony of it.
fishing and the grand national are different kettles of 'fish' to slaying bulls for entertainment.
we ban things as we have moved on from clubbing each other and grunting.
i don't really care about blood sports, seen and killed enough animals to know there is no nobility in death and pleasure.
Timmy40 said:
Particularly unpleasant people in some ways. I'm going to be controversial and say, do some of these rather nasty traits ( esp in Southern Spain ) relate back to when, relatively recently in history Spain was in fact part of the Caliphate?
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king hell! That's quite a step, even for PH.Bill said:
Timmy40 said:
Particularly unpleasant people in some ways. I'm going to be controversial and say, do some of these rather nasty traits ( esp in Southern Spain ) relate back to when, relatively recently in history Spain was in fact part of the Caliphate?
fking hell! That's quite a step, even for PH.Axionknight said:
Bill said:
Timmy40 said:
Particularly unpleasant people in some ways. I'm going to be controversial and say, do some of these rather nasty traits ( esp in Southern Spain ) relate back to when, relatively recently in history Spain was in fact part of the Caliphate?
fking hell! That's quite a step, even for PH.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff