Discussion
JawKnee said:
P5BNij said:
Whatever it is you're quaffing by the bucket load I'd love a sip, it appears to be making you somewhat light headed.
Tired, over used insults don't have quite the impact you're after.
Halb said:
That would help Jeremy. How could it help May?
You think Labour will win more seats vs their current position?I think you would see a further swing to Labour in their traditional heartlands, significant loss in marginals and a significant swing to the Tories everywhere else.
Vaud said:
You think Labour will win more seats vs their current position?
I think you would see a further swing to Labour in their traditional heartlands, significant loss in marginals and a significant swing to the Tories everywhere else.
I don't make any predictions on seats; the SNP, UKiPs, LDs...all of these minnows are taking flesh off the big two. I do reckon it'll be a crapshoot if one does happen soon.I think you would see a further swing to Labour in their traditional heartlands, significant loss in marginals and a significant swing to the Tories everywhere else.
But I was not referring to seats...even though I don't see the Torys doing particular well there though...I see them affected by the ref fallout.
I was referring to Jeremy's hold on the party, the de-selection and election could give him the PLP he wants...of course some enemies would be gone, but would it be possible to take apparatus with them, and cash, and volunteers? It all happening like that, the inertia would be with the party I think, and benefit Jeremy over the others.
davepoth said:
I wonder if May would call a snap election if Corbyn is reelected? I can see the benefits, but I don't think she'll pull the trigger until boundary reform is complete.
She can't call a snap election. She would need a 2/3rds majority to do so (or lose a no-confidence vote). Parliament Act 2011.She's never going to willingly go down the no confidence route.
Could she get a 2/3rd majority? Not sure Labour (of either true Labour or the Momentum nutter shade) would sign up to be annihilated. SNP's would probably be happy to get involved but aren't enough.
Halb said:
Vaud said:
You think Labour will win more seats vs their current position?
I think you would see a further swing to Labour in their traditional heartlands, significant loss in marginals and a significant swing to the Tories everywhere else.
I don't make any predictions on seats; the SNP, UKiPs, LDs...all of these minnows are taking flesh off the big two. I do reckon it'll be a crapshoot if one does happen soon.I think you would see a further swing to Labour in their traditional heartlands, significant loss in marginals and a significant swing to the Tories everywhere else.
But I was not referring to seats...even though I don't see the Torys doing particular well there though...I see them affected by the ref fallout.
I was referring to Jeremy's hold on the party, the de-selection and election could give him the PLP he wants...of course some enemies would be gone, but would it be possible to take apparatus with them, and cash, and volunteers? It all happening like that, the inertia would be with the party I think, and benefit Jeremy over the others.
There is one problem, the fixed term parliament act, she'd need some turkeys to vote for Xmas. No party in disarray is going to join to make a 2/3rds majority to repeal the act. SNP are not going to do the Tories a favour, I can't see them winning anymore seats in Scotland, there's only 2 left.
Timmy40 said:
davepoth said:
I wonder if May would call a snap election if Corbyn is reelected? I can see the benefits, but I don't think she'll pull the trigger until boundary reform is complete.
She can't. Fixed Term Paliament Act. Corbyn gets a huge benefit from an election because he can arrange for all the "haters" to be deselected, even though he'll likely lose some seats.
davepoth said:
It only takes a simple majority to repeal an act, and she has that majority. Besides, it's possible she could get to 2/3rds with the help of the bit of Labour that Corbyn still commands.
Corbyn gets a huge benefit from an election because he can arrange for all the "haters" to be deselected, even though he'll likely lose some seats.
Fixed Term Parliament Act does state 2/3rds.Corbyn gets a huge benefit from an election because he can arrange for all the "haters" to be deselected, even though he'll likely lose some seats.
However some Labour MPs may see a complete drubbing at the election as the only way to get rid of Corbyn.
jmorgan said:
Just reading on the alleged unauthorised entry to the office and this name crops up, Karie Murphy. Interesting reading the tales of Falkirk etc. Interesting reading. Red Len really is trying to be king maker.
Maybe it will not be swept under the carpet after all.
And if any MI5 managers are reading this, let me know when I get paid for this, I need to buy a new brolly.
So long as its been submitted on the new EXP632179643/8767 v2 Form it should be paid on next months wages. Hopefully you received the new memo re claims procedures? If not dial extension 7439 and one can be sent out.Maybe it will not be swept under the carpet after all.
And if any MI5 managers are reading this, let me know when I get paid for this, I need to buy a new brolly.
Corby's going nowhere whilst he still has the unions and the che Guevara badge wearing students behind him.
I wonder if a split in the Labour Party is inevitable. I'd expect a centrist left new new Labour Party free of union influence, with a pro EU stance could be a popular, particularly if someone like Dan Jarvis was in charge and it was in coalition with the SNP. Obviously there are funding issues for new new labour without the unions and students.
I wonder if a split in the Labour Party is inevitable. I'd expect a centrist left new new Labour Party free of union influence, with a pro EU stance could be a popular, particularly if someone like Dan Jarvis was in charge and it was in coalition with the SNP. Obviously there are funding issues for new new labour without the unions and students.
essayer said:
Norfolkit said:
Fixed Term Parliament Act does state 2/3rds.
However some Labour MPs may see a complete drubbing at the election as the only way to get rid of Corbyn.
May could just call for a vote of confidence in her own government with a three line whip to vote against? However some Labour MPs may see a complete drubbing at the election as the only way to get rid of Corbyn.
She'll take the (almost) 4 years and then another 5.
It would be self-defeating to help Labour get rid of Corbyn before he loses in 2020.
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