Jeremy Corbyn

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2,142 posts

94 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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Europa1 said:
Jesus. A man who is apparently too timid or stupid to ask a member of the public to move a bag or coat or ask whether a seat is empty is seriously trying to suggest he should be PM, a role that will involve negotiating with the likes of Vladimir Putin?

Between Jeremy Corbyn and his trains and Owen Smith wanting to have a referendum on the referendum, I am really struggling to decide which of them is the least credible candidate.
That's just it, neither of them are electable.
Tories must be laughing their Sox off.
It will be many years before Labour are even going to be considered remotely capable of putting a government together.

AJL308

6,390 posts

156 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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andy_s said:
Toaster said:
At least the guy is trying to highlight and support the plight that many rail passengers find themselves in, http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news...

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/transport/commuters...

You can find loads of press reports on poor rail service overcrowding etc.

Being a regular rail user I believe Corbyn is right to highlight the plight of rail users should he have chosen a different time and place.........its debatable and may be reasonable o argue he possibly should have.

When Virgin say they had spare seats, you only have to look at first class and you will often find spare capacity, in the mean time in cattle class people are often not able to get a seat.

So here is +1 for Corbyn at least trying to highlight the issue the average person has when traveling
And here's a -1 for not reserving a seat.

There's no good way to slice the cake - no reservation in the first place, lied about the circumstances, made it worse by making up preposterous stories, cynical politicking, who is going to pay for 'very expensive trains' he envisages and why will nationalisation make the situation better - don't you remember 'British Snail'??

It's fking ridiculous that this guy is in charge of a major party (unless it's a false flag op out of conservative central) - he couldn't run a bath and is completely deluded to boot.
Two things there: "In charge". Is he?

Second: "Major Party". Is it? It was but is it still? If so then it seems a fair bet that it won't be in the very near future!

shakotan

10,704 posts

196 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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His latest defense makes no sense at all...

"There were empty seats but not two together so I couldn't sit next to my wife..."

So instead of sitting apart from your wife on two separate seats, you STILL sit apart from your wife, but decide to sit on the floor and make a video about it?!

I guess "Boo-hoo, look at the state of the trains, I can't sit next to my wife, instead I'm two rows back and on the other side of the aisle" doesn't have quite the same ring to it.

stevesingo

4,858 posts

222 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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Being unable to defend the indefensible lies, the Commies are on the attack to deflect attention.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37173048

AJL308

6,390 posts

156 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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shakotan said:
His latest defense makes no sense at all...

"There were empty seats but not two together so I couldn't sit next to my wife..."

So instead of sitting apart from your wife on two separate seats, you STILL sit apart from your wife, but decide to sit on the floor and make a video about it?!

I guess "Boo-hoo, look at the state of the trains, I can't sit next to my wife, instead I'm two rows back and on the other side of the aisle" doesn't have quite the same ring to it.
What a monumentally pathetic excuse! So, he can't sit next to his wife so he acts (even more) like a five year-old and has a huffy strop in the corner! What a total fking nobber.

It would be bad enough if that were actually true - it isn't, of course, he just made it up to cover his arse. He got on the train with the intention of making a video about how crap private sector transport is (in his opinion) and was intent on doing just that. He is a narcissistic crack-pot who cannot accept that he cannot have his own way all the time.

Jeremy Corbyn does exactly what Jeremy Corbyn likes, whenever Jeremy Corbyn likes with no consideration given anyone else or even whether what he wants to do is right. He reminds me of Martin Sheen's character of the US president in The Dead Zone: "The missiles are flying gentlemen!". I really do hope to Christ that he never gets into Government or we are Royaly fked.

KTF

9,806 posts

150 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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stevesingo said:
Being unable to defend the indefensible lies, the Commies are on the attack to deflect attention.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37173048
Branson isn't going to like that. The question is will he reply or deem it not worthy of a response.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

205 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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stevesingo said:
Being unable to defend the indefensible lies, the Commies are on the attack to deflect attention.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37173048
And now the other commie pinkos are live blogging the traumatic experience of taking the 11am from London to York. The humanity!

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2016/aug/...

Except it doesn't seem to be going according to the grand plan...

Grauniad said:
27m ago
10:47
Forgotten in all this is the story about whether Britain’s train passengers are getting a fair deal. So I’m heading off on the 11am Virgin train to Newcastle this morning from Kings Cross. How crowded is it? Will I get a seat?

3m ago
11:09
So I got the train without a hitch. It doesn’t seem to be hugely busy. In fact, I’m slightly worried that it will be mostly full of journalists.
rofl


Edited by hornetrider on Wednesday 24th August 11:15

KTF

9,806 posts

150 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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The Guardian said:
it is easy to portray it as yet another example of Corbyn’s failure as a leader – that he can’t even find a crowded train to make a point about crowded trains without becoming the story himself.
roflroflrofl

AJL308

6,390 posts

156 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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KTF said:
stevesingo said:
Being unable to defend the indefensible lies, the Commies are on the attack to deflect attention.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37173048
Branson isn't going to like that. The question is will he reply or deem it not worthy of a response.
I think it would be beyond hilarious if he sued the Labour Party and managed to bankrupt them. Then used the money to make a blockbuster film of the whole sorry tale. Like in I was Monty's Double Jeremy Corbyn could be played by....Jeremy Corbyn. Being the narcissist that he is, he'd do it as well!

Smollet

10,598 posts

190 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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Suffice it to say I suspect Mr Branson has done more for this country and economy that any Labour Party has ever achieved in a positive sense although I doubt Corbyn will ever recognise that.

KTF

9,806 posts

150 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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hornetrider said:
From the comments:
Why didn't a Guardian journo try sticking his privates into a dead pig's mouth after Cameron's "piggate"? Just for the experience of course.

jet_noise

5,651 posts

182 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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KTF said:
Didnt take long:

Arf

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

KTF

9,806 posts

150 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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Halb said:
I think a lot of the people (and seemingly Corbyn) in the aisles don't realise that a reserved seat is fair game if the person who reserved it doesn't turn up.

AJL308

6,390 posts

156 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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Halb said:
Well, that article still brings up the rather inconvenient truth that at the point that Corbyn's lot said he got seated after people got off the train hadn't actually stopped. Were some folks thrown off then?

KTF

9,806 posts

150 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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Guardian Pick comment said:
We need fresh thinking. Why not make public transport completely free and create a Universal Basic Income. We could pay for this by not renewing Trident and by reinforcing HMRC to collect in full from corporate tax dodgers. These two measures would utterly transform our country.
Joined up thinking right there.

Toaster

2,939 posts

193 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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andy_s said:
And here's a -1 for not reserving a seat.

There's no good way to slice the cake - no reservation in the first place, lied about the circumstances, made it worse by making up preposterous stories, cynical politicking, who is going to pay for 'very expensive trains' he envisages and why will nationalisation make the situation better - don't you remember 'British Snail'??

It's fking ridiculous that this guy is in charge of a major party (unless it's a false flag op out of conservative central) - he couldn't run a bath and is completely deluded to boot.
Don't want to dissuade you from your view but have you tried to reserve a seat on a fully booked train? you can buy a ticket but you can't reserve a seat

Carl Jung once commented in that "Thinking is difficult which is why most people Judge"

I suspect that this press article has been dreamed up by a spin doctor the underlying issues are real so why and be so negative about someone who genuinely wants to improve the lives of others?

Edited by Toaster on Wednesday 24th August 11:39

AJL308

6,390 posts

156 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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KTF said:
Halb said:
I think a lot of the people (and seemingly Corbyn) in the aisles don't realise that a reserved seat is fair game if the person who reserved it doesn't turn up.
Which still doesn't get round the fact that Virgin state quite clearly that he walked past empty, unreserved seats. And did everyone standing not in fact realise that they could sit in a reserved seat if it was obvious that no one had taken it? I'm not sure I believe that. I travel on trains very rarely but if I knew that a reserved seat was unoccupied after the train was moving then I'd take it.

rscott

14,762 posts

191 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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KTF said:
Halb said:
I think a lot of the people (and seemingly Corbyn) in the aisles don't realise that a reserved seat is fair game if the person who reserved it doesn't turn up.
Wouldn't it make sense for the staff on board to remove reserved seat tickets on unoccupied seats - then those who don't travel regularly would know the seats were available..

Smollet

10,598 posts

190 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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KTF said:
Guardian Pick comment said:
We need fresh thinking. Why not make public transport completely free and create a Universal Basic Income. We could pay for this by not renewing Trident and by reinforcing HMRC to collect in full from corporate tax dodgers. These two measures would utterly transform our country.
Joined up thinking right there.
Well he does have a point. It would utterly transform the country .........................just not in a good way.
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