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Integroo said:
A Winner Is You said:
What do you feel about senior Labour politicians praising mass murdering left wing dictators?
Again, what's this got to do with anything? I don't like Corbyn and won't vote for him. I think his comments on various things are shameful, including Maduro, and don't understand his/left-wing Labour's obsession with Palestine/Israel.
Integroo said:
amusingduck said:
Tough? The AfD hold seats in the Bundestag, that's about as mainstream as it gets.
Play the ball, not the man. I watched the speech you refer to and thought she was pretty much spot on. What did you find objectionable about the video?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-37274201Play the ball, not the man. I watched the speech you refer to and thought she was pretty much spot on. What did you find objectionable about the video?
"Is it far-right?
Yes. Leading AfD figures made extremist statements before and during the 2017 election campaign."
Whether or not what was said in the speech itself was extremist is not the point. JRM happily endorses their views. If you don't want to be called a Nazi, don't associate yourself with the far-right.
I haven't heard him say anything overtly offensive. The only thing that people dislike his some of his catholic views. (I dont agree with him on many of them) But his right under religious freedom. Odd then that other religious groups have fairly abhorrent views on things like homosexuality, yet don't get the same people complaining JRM turning on them either.
https://youtu.be/DsR4Nx-ELgc The great man sharing his wisdom ;-)
S1KRR said:
No, he endorses ONE of their views.
I haven't heard him say anything overtly offensive. The only thing that people dislike his some of his catholic views. (I dont agree with him on many of them) But his right under religious freedom. Odd then that other religious groups have fairly abhorrent views on things like homosexuality, yet don't get the same people complaining JRM turning on them either.
TBH I find his fundamentalist catholicism far more concerning than any of his other views, although it can be argued that many of the latter stem from the former. Fundamentalist religion is a clear and present danger to the enlightenment.I haven't heard him say anything overtly offensive. The only thing that people dislike his some of his catholic views. (I dont agree with him on many of them) But his right under religious freedom. Odd then that other religious groups have fairly abhorrent views on things like homosexuality, yet don't get the same people complaining JRM turning on them either.
hidetheelephants said:
TBH I find his fundamentalist catholicism far more concerning than any of his other views, although it can be argued that many of the latter stem from the former. Fundamentalist religion is a clear and present danger to the enlightenment.
IMO anyone that believes in made up stories about heaven and hell (or variations on that theme depending on their faith) is a wrong un 
But as we've seen, if Mogg says something stupid about abortion. Certain gobs
tes in the media pounce on him. When another person defends their equally stupid religious beliefs about homosexuality, or numerous women's rights in general. We find those same gobstes ignore it instead of calling it out as they shouldninjacost said:
https://youtu.be/DsR4Nx-ELgc The great man sharing his wisdom ;-)
This old one popped up in the recommendations afterwards. Just wow. What a dispicable thing to say without any substance. It would appear to be so because when asked for evidence of his claim, he immediately deflected onto the BBC and Cressida Dick. If he had evidence to back in his claim, he would surely have just stated it.Politicians should know when to speculate and when not to over divisive public issues. He is simply appalling if that statement was, as it would appear from that short clip, for political gain from the Grenfell tragedy.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Gek20riA9l8
Posted this in the EU thread but I think it belongs here too 
Jonathan Pie with some sage advice RE: Lammy's Nazi comments
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Hrn6vnOjRs&t=...
Transcribed for you lazy bums:
Jonathan Pie with some sage advice RE: Lammy's Nazi comments
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Hrn6vnOjRs&t=...
Transcribed for you lazy bums:
Pie said:
If Liberalism is gonna survive this surge of populism that is sweeping the western world, we have to understand why people are looking for alternatives for liberalism, because CLEARLY it's not working for them. When the left come out with this st we push people further and futher away - to the right! By telling them they're already there, by telling people that large swathes of the Tory party are on the far right, you LEGITIMISE the far right by putting them all under the same umbrella. it's INCREDIBLY dangerous.
Well if the tories are far right, fk it i'm gonna start goose stepping to work!
See, he's got me defending the Tories!! bd!!
I think he's spot on. t we push people further and futher away - to the right! By telling them they're already there, by telling people that large swathes of the Tory party are on the far right, you LEGITIMISE the far right by putting them all under the same umbrella. it's INCREDIBLY dangerous.Well if the tories are far right, f
k it i'm gonna start goose stepping to work!See, he's got me defending the Tories!! b
d!!https://twitter.com/DavidLammy/status/111818394892...
Whilst I don't doubt he gets abuse from idiots.
I feel this tweet is meant to absolve him from criticism of anything else he says.
Whilst I don't doubt he gets abuse from idiots.
I feel this tweet is meant to absolve him from criticism of anything else he says.
S1KRR said:
https://twitter.com/DavidLammy/status/111818394892...
Whilst I don't doubt he gets abuse from idiots.
I feel this tweet is meant to absolve him from criticism of anything else he says.
I’m a leaver but not a racist or facist, he doesn’t see that out of the 52% of us that voted to leave, he’s on about a minorityWhilst I don't doubt he gets abuse from idiots.
I feel this tweet is meant to absolve him from criticism of anything else he says.
However I see more bile from the left that is totally humiliating and alienating that makes you start to get so fed up you might start to sympathise with that to which he is calling out
Poke a circus bear in the nose enough times, it will take your face off
George Smiley][snip said:
However I see more bile from the left that is totally humiliating and alienating that makes you start to get so fed up you might start to sympathise with that to which he is calling out
Poke a circus bear in the nose enough times, it will take your face off
Are you sure? Have a look around this place.Poke a circus bear in the nose enough times, it will take your face off
George Smiley said:
I’m a leaver but not a racist or facist, he doesn’t see that out of the 52% of us that voted to leave, he’s on about a minority
However I see more bile from the left that is totally humiliating and alienating that makes you start to get so fed up you might start to sympathise with that to which he is calling out
Poke a circus bear in the nose enough times, it will take your face off
So one guy "on the left" calls the current UKIP party and compares the ERG to other far-right nationalist racists, and apparently according to you, every Leaver needs to be insulted by it. However I see more bile from the left that is totally humiliating and alienating that makes you start to get so fed up you might start to sympathise with that to which he is calling out
Poke a circus bear in the nose enough times, it will take your face off
Not everyone who voted leave is a far-right racist, but all the far-right racists voted for Leave.
Rivenink said:
So one guy "on the left" calls the current UKIP party and compares the ERG to other far-right nationalist racists, and apparently according to you, every Leaver needs to be insulted by it.
Not everyone who voted leave is a far-right racist, but all the far-right racists voted for Leave.
Any evidence?Not everyone who voted leave is a far-right racist, but all the far-right racists voted for Leave.
Baby Shark doo doo doo doo said:
Rivenink said:
So one guy "on the left" calls the current UKIP party and compares the ERG to other far-right nationalist racists, and apparently according to you, every Leaver needs to be insulted by it.
Not everyone who voted leave is a far-right racist, but all the far-right racists voted for Leave.
Any evidence?Not everyone who voted leave is a far-right racist, but all the far-right racists voted for Leave.
OK only 700,000 of them and it would have been a tie
I get really bored with the constant level of posts saying
- You didn't know what you were voting for
- Leavers are racist/xenophobic
- Free movement was the biggest issue
- Leavers are thick gammon faced little englanders
I had the opportunity to vote in the referendum - I did - some people stayed in bed and it seems many of the yoof preferred to play COD instead.
Not my fault that the Government and HoC don't seem to be capable of running a bath let alone a country
Baby Shark doo doo doo doo said:
Any evidence?
There are no political groups associated with far-right nationalism who campaign to remain in the EU. Every far-right nationalist polticial group in Europe is at best "Euro-sceptic". The EU at its current stage of development is not compatible with far-right nationalism. Maybe in the future, should it become a nation state, it might find itself with its own far-right nationalists dedicated to its nationhood.
B'stard Child said:
I get really bored with the constant level of posts saying
- You didn't know what you were voting for
Indidvidual leavers know what they wanted when they voted leave.Of the people i spoke to at the time of the referendum, including my family, many were concerned about immigration, others about EU law making. - You didn't know what you were voting for
What's going to be delivered apparently isn't what all leavers voted for...
B'stard Child said:
- Leavers are racist/xenophobic
Not all leavers are racists or xenophobic.However, all* racists and xenophobes voted for Leave.
B'stard Child said:
- Free movement was the biggest issue
Immigration was a big issue in the referendum, and was the biggest issue for many Leave voters. B'stard Child said:
- Leavers are thick gammon faced little englanders
And remoaners are apparently elitist metropolitan libtardsB'stard Child said:
I had the opportunity to vote in the referendum - I did - some people stayed in bed and it seems many of the yoof preferred to play COD instead.
Not my fault that the Government and HoC don't seem to be capable of running a bath let alone a country
Is Theresa's deal going to deliver what you voted for? Not my fault that the Government and HoC don't seem to be capable of running a bath let alone a country
(All* as described in my previous post)
Edited by Rivenink on Wednesday 17th April 17:01
Rivenink said:
B'stard Child said:
I get really bored with the constant level of posts saying
- You didn't know what you were voting for
Indidvidual leavers know what they wanted when they voted leave.Of the people i spoke to at the time of the referendum, including my family, many were concerned about immigration, others about EU law making. - You didn't know what you were voting for
What's going to be delivered apparently isn't what all leavers voted for...
Rivenink said:
B'stard Child said:
- Leavers are racist/xenophobic
Not all leavers are racists or xenophobic.However, all* racists and xenophobes voted for Leave.
Rivenink said:
B'stard Child said:
- Free movement was the biggest issue
Immigration was a big issue in the referendum, and was the biggest issue for many Leave voters. B'stard Child said:
- Leavers are thick gammon faced little englanders
And remoaners are apparently elitist metropolitan libtardsandymadmak said:
Rivenink said:
B'stard Child said:
I get really bored with the constant level of posts saying
- You didn't know what you were voting for
Indidvidual leavers know what they wanted when they voted leave.Of the people i spoke to at the time of the referendum, including my family, many were concerned about immigration, others about EU law making. - You didn't know what you were voting for
What's going to be delivered apparently isn't what all leavers voted for...
People voted Leave based on false information about the EU, false promises on how easy it would be to leave, and unrealistic suggestions that people would "get their country back".
The people knew what they were voting for... they're just didn't know they were not going to get it. And of course they're going to get angry when they don't... that's natural.
At the moment, the exceptional incompetence of the people trying to deliver as much of the impossible they can is attracting the ire of the Leave voters; and the con men behind it all can continue their charade of being "men of the people".
I'm not sure when the penny will finally drop... but it will.
andymadmak said:
Rivenink said:
B'stard Child said:
- Leavers are racist/xenophobic
Not all leavers are racists or xenophobic.However, all* racists and xenophobes voted for Leave.
andymadmak said:
Rivenink said:
B'stard Child said:
- Free movement was the biggest issue
Immigration was a big issue in the referendum, and was the biggest issue for many Leave voters. B'stard Child said:
- Leavers are thick gammon faced little englanders
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