Are the left wing less tolerant of the views of others?

[irocfan]

smn159 said:

irocfan said:

there is an thought that occurred to me - while many of us mustered ambivalence, at worst, upon hearing about the demise of Healey (or indeed will do when Scargill goes) when Maggie T died there were virtually street parties and again with Parkinson there is joy that someone has died. I just don't see this happening with the 'nasty right' - though I'm happy to be put right!

Where is this joy that Parkinson has died?

ok so it's anecdotal rather than leaps of joy throughout the press - the cynical part of me suggests that's because the younger lefties don't know who he is.

Gogoplata said:

This came up on my newsfeed posted by a very vocal Corbyn supporter:

"That's better. Not a well loved musician. A thoroughly odious tory. Or...tory. Same thing really."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35403445?ns_...

I'll also admit that it is quite possible that when Blair pops his clogs there'll be quite distasteful scenes from both sides of the political divide - not from me though (even though I detest the slimy, vile scumbag)

[Gandahar]

anonymous said:

[redacted]

You tolerant person you.

Why didn't you just title this thread " I don't like lefties" ?

[Vocal Minority]

To be honest I think threads like this just serve to demonstrate that the left and the right are equally intolerant of other peoples views.

People say that those on the left get aggressive etc (and that's a point I know several who do) however the right are the same, but its sort of smug condescension rather than aggression (which you see all the time round these 'ere parts). Its not any more tolerant!

We are all as bad as eachother in our own ways.

[XM5ER]

Vocal Minority said:

To be honest I think threads like this just serve to demonstrate that the left and the right are equally intolerant of other peoples views.

People say that those on the left get aggressive etc (and that's a point I know several who do) however the right are the same, but its sort of smug condescension rather than aggression (which you see all the time round these 'ere parts). Its not any more tolerant!

We are all as bad as eachother in our own ways.

A snooty look or a smack in the face? You choose which you prefer.

[Vocal Minority]

We'll it's never really that drastic is it?

It's usually being testily told you're a bd or being testily told you're a moron!

Six of one in my opinion!

[irocfan]

Vocal Minority said:

We'll it's never really that drastic is it?

It's usually being testily told you're a bd or being testily told you're a moron!

Six of one in my opinion!

Well the point has been made - can you think of the last time we had mass protests against the election of a labour government... actually what's the last right wing protest on the same scale as those regularly seen by the left (actually on any scale) since the end of WWII?

[Hugo a Gogo]

EDL, Pegida etc?

[irocfan]

Hugo a Gogo said:

EDL, Pegida etc?

Horrible, horrible people but compared to the annual May day knees up in London or the regular G8 fun and games? What about the tear up WRT the election results? Small potatoes, though you are correct in reminding me that there are scumbags our side

[don4l]

Hugo a Gogo said:

EDL, Pegida etc?

Did they protest against the election of a Labour government, or did you just make it up?

I'm guessing that you just made it up and you hoped that nobody would spot that you were telling porkies.

Why do lefties think that we are all too thick to see through their BS?

[Halb]

Vocal Minority said:

To be honest I think threads like this just serve to demonstrate that the left and the right are equally intolerant of other peoples views.

People say that those on the left get aggressive etc (and that's a point I know several who do) however the right are the same, but its sort of smug condescension rather than aggression (which you see all the time round these 'ere parts). Its not any more tolerant!

We are all as bad as eachother in our own ways.

Pretty much. The sort of stuff I see posted by both sides on my fb feed can range from the enlightening to the ridiculous.

[Hugo a Gogo]

don4l said:

Did they protest against the election of a Labour government, or did you just make it up?

I'm guessing that you just made it up and you hoped that nobody would spot that you were telling porkies.

Why do lefties think that we are all too thick to see through their BS?

why are you too thick to understand what I was replying to?

or too thick to see the irony of suggesting I'm a 'thick leftie' on a thread about being intolerant

irocfan said:

...actually what's the last right wing protest on the same scale as those regularly seen by the left (actually on any scale) since the end of WWII?

Hugo a Gogo said:

EDL, Pegida etc?

[Vocal Minority]

irocfan said:

Well the point has been made - can you think of the last time we had mass protests against the election of a labour government... actually what's the last right wing protest on the same scale as those regularly seen by the left (actually on any scale) since the end of WWII?

The right is too busy tutting and thinking all of that sort of thing is beneath them and 'leftie' and dreadfully common

[IroningMan]

Vocal Minority said:

irocfan said:

Well the point has been made - can you think of the last time we had mass protests against the election of a labour government... actually what's the last right wing protest on the same scale as those regularly seen by the left (actually on any scale) since the end of WWII?

The right is too busy tutting and thinking all of that sort of thing is beneath them and 'leftie' and dreadfully common

The 'right' is generally at work that day...

[WinkleHoff]

Not wanting to hijack the thread, bit why are pegida considered far right? From what I can see their issue is with Islam, so how can objection to a totalitarian ideology be considered far right?

[Vocal Minority]

IroningMan said:

The 'right' is generally at work that day...

Well his is sort of a case in point - it's not as aggressive as the sort you are referring to tend to be - but it's equally intolerant of themir views in a different way. It's just scornful and dismissive.

You aren't being any more tolerant, you are just putting it across differently

So I believe that my point that everyone is probablyasbad as each other stands.

[turbobloke]

Vocal Minority said:

IroningMan said:

The 'right' is generally at work that day...

Well his is sort of a case in point - it's not as aggressive as the sort you are referring to tend to be - but it's equally intolerant of themir views in a different way. It's just scornful and dismissive.

You aren't being any more tolerant, you are just putting it across differently

So I believe that my point that everyone is probablyasbad as each other stands.

Is that context based (PH)? Not that it makes much difference. Looking at the almost total domination of hate slogans from the Left as daubed on buildings and monuments during acts of criminal damage and as posted on social media, not forgetting behaviour outside conferences and on protests, this thread established long ago with examples from a set that makes onlookers spoilt for choice that the Left are indeed the intolerance 'winners' though anyone with their eyes and ears wide open knew this long ago. Recently we even had Corbyn supporters taunting other lifelong Labour voters as 'Tories' because they didn't share Corbyn's taste for student union politics.

[smn159]

turbobloke said:

this thread established long ago...etc

No it didn't, it asserted that the 'Left' are less tolerant based largely on anecdotes and the 'evidence' of peoples mates on Facebook.

The only actual study posted on the matter seems to conclude otherwise

[turbobloke]

smn159 said:

turbobloke said:

this thread established long ago...etc

No it didn't, it asserted that the 'Left' are less tolerant based largely on anecdotes and the 'evidence' of peoples mates on Facebook.

The only actual study posted on the matter seems to conclude otherwise

Yes it did, there were multiple examples of Left wing intolerance posted and a lack of any corresponding examples of Right wing intolerance. These included but weren't limited to the examples I gave. The fact that there were instances of Right wing intolerance pointed out did nothing to counter the overwhelming view that in extenr and frequency, Left-wing intolerance is more prevalent. Many social media examples were also given with yet another lack of sufficient counter-examples. It's been obvious for quite some time without the need for a thread. However if you have multiple images of buildings and monuments defaced as per Tory Scum, Evil Tories etc, posters and placards of the same ilk, social media examples, post away. There's been a distinct lack from the off which corresponds with real life experience.

[JagLover]

WinkleHoff said:

Not wanting to hijack the thread, bit why are pegida considered far right? From what I can see their issue is with Islam, so how can objection to a totalitarian ideology be considered far right?

If radical Islam were a political movement of white people it would be considered far right and those opposed presumably not of the far right.

We live in a topsy turvy political world.

[Hugo a Gogo]

dunno if this fits on this thread... and you've maybe read it elsewhere already, but google "labour are" and see the autocomplete options, then "libdems are", "snp are" "ukip are"

then try "tories are" or "conservatives are"

bing, yahoo etc all offer negative autocomplete options for the tories as well as the other parties, but google don't

strange that...