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Halb said:
everybody has skin in his game, every industry, and the western way is to squeeze for more cash and f
k everything else.
k everything else.
And the allegedly science-based medical profession has cheerfully advocated these foods and demonized others, while pushing pills to treat the symptoms we get from eating the food.These are not people and institutions who should be given more power over what we eat and how we live.
What's perplexed me with this sugar tax is, when it was implemented a litre bottle of Coke in Sainsbury's was £1.65 (I actually don't know what it was pre "sugar tax" as I never took any notice), a month or so later it went down to £1 "on offer" and has remained so, in Aldi its the same price and my local One Stop was doing it for £1.50 or £2 for 2.
What's that all about?
What's that all about?
Edited by HTP99 on Sunday 24th June 21:01
grumbledoak said:
Various health organisations, from the WHO to the US Dept. of Health to the NHS, have been telling us what to eat for decades. The result of people largely following this advice, in the US, is obesity at 47% for some groups and chronic illness affecting 78% of the over 55s.
The advice is wrong.
Do yo really think that people "largely follow" WHO/US Dept of Health/NHS advice? I certainly don't.The advice is wrong.
HTP99 said:
What's perplexed me with this sugar tax is, when it was implemented a litre bottle of Coke was £1.65 (I actually don't know what it was pre "sugar tax" as I never took any notice), a month or so later it went down to £1 "on offer" and has remained so, in Aldi its the same price and my local One Stop was doing it for £1.50 or £2 for 2.
What's that all about?
It’s cheaper to buy a 1L Coke for £1 than a 500 ml Coke for £1.25.What's that all about?
I noticed my local Asda doesn’t stock any full fat Coke bottles larger than 1L but my local Tesco will do 2x 1.5L for £3 - Same as they used to do with the 1.75L bottles.
I actually managed to buy about 50 1.75L bottles of full fate coke for about 50p each a few days after the tax came in as Sainsbury’s was selling them all off to get rid of stock. Fantastic and have loads in the cupboard!
Selling off school playing fields, the advent of computer games and mobile phones, paranoia about kids being out all hours playing. I'm not sticking up for the corporations who tempt kids to consume rubbish, but the problem extends well beyond diet; governments and parents have just as much to answer for.
Blue62 said:
Selling off school playing fields, the advent of computer games and mobile phones, paranoia about kids being out all hours playing. I'm not sticking up for the corporations who tempt kids to consume rubbish, but the problem extends well beyond diet; governments and parents have just as much to answer for.
I play a lot of computer games and manage to "stay active" and eat crisps, drink beer, strum my abs.Shame so much of the arguments in favour seem to come from a combination of hypocrite celebrity chefs with no qualifications around health or nutrition but a huge desire to maintain press coverage, and a lot of professional Puritans who campaign against sugar/salt/meat/alcohol/whatever with their only aim being to reduce intake beyond whatever the latest target was, regardless of consequences.
If you really believe there's a proportion of the populace who can't control themselves and who are doing themselves real genuine harm then target them directly. Don't fk things up for everyone just because you believe you're right and everyone has to follow what you say.
Forcing ideas on everyone under the belief they're doing a righteous thing is the mark of the worst deviants history has to offer.
If you really believe there's a proportion of the populace who can't control themselves and who are doing themselves real genuine harm then target them directly. Don't f
k things up for everyone just because you believe you're right and everyone has to follow what you say.Forcing ideas on everyone under the belief they're doing a righteous thing is the mark of the worst deviants history has to offer.
Jonesy23 said:
Shame so much of the arguments in favour seem to come from a combination of hypocrite celebrity chefs with no qualifications around health or nutrition but a huge desire to maintain press coverage, and a lot of professional Puritans who campaign against sugar/salt/meat/alcohol/whatever with their only aim being to reduce intake beyond whatever the latest target was, regardless of consequences.
If you really believe there's a proportion of the populace who can't control themselves and who are doing themselves real genuine harm then target them directly. Don't fk things up for everyone just because you believe you're right and everyone has to follow what you say.
Forcing ideas on everyone under the belief they're doing a righteous thing is the mark of the worst deviants history has to offer.
They are targeting them directly, the fatties can't just pick up their sweets while queuing at the checkout anymore but have to waddle off to the back of the store to get them!If you really believe there's a proportion of the populace who can't control themselves and who are doing themselves real genuine harm then target them directly. Don't f
k things up for everyone just because you believe you're right and everyone has to follow what you say.Forcing ideas on everyone under the belief they're doing a righteous thing is the mark of the worst deviants history has to offer.
grumbledoak said:
Probably not. It might be the answer to the public sector's pensions shortfall. As with fags and booze this tax just creates another addict.
I tend to agree. People will just pay for it; yes, yes, it will cover some of the NHS costs to deal with diabetes but that's different to actually dealing with the problem.Hoofy said:
I tend to agree. People will just pay for it; yes, yes, it will cover some of the NHS costs to deal with diabetes but that's different to actually dealing with the problem.
Yup. And now the government has a financial incentive to make everyone fat and diabetic, putting them firmly on the same side as the sugary drinks, junk food, and pharmaceutical industries.grumbledoak said:
Hoofy said:
I tend to agree. People will just pay for it; yes, yes, it will cover some of the NHS costs to deal with diabetes but that's different to actually dealing with the problem.
Yup. And now the government has a financial incentive to make everyone fat and diabetic, putting them firmly on the same side as the sugary drinks, junk food, and pharmaceutical industries.
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