Paris shooting and casualties ?

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Derek Smith said:

Hollande expressed his support for the police.

I wonder if Cameron and May would have the 'gaul' to say such a thing is, gods forbid, the same should happen here. Windsor would be able to put his pretty frock on again when joining in the mourning.

David Cameron said:

And we will do all we can to support our police...

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/prime-minister-statement-on-paris-terror-attack

[Puggit]

Explosive vest, without detonator, found in a bin near the area of Paris were Abdeslam was last detected.

[Blaster72]

Puggit said:

Explosive vest, without detonator, found in a bin near the area of Paris were Abdeslam was last detected.

If they find him, perhaps they could provide him with a detonator and lock him in a shipping container until he uses it?

[kev1974]

Brussels to stay on high alert for the rest of the week it seems, although the metro and schools will open again from Wednesday.

[Puggit]

Explosive in the vest was Acetone Peroxide - TATP: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acetone_peroxide

Same as used in the 7th July bombings in London

[littlegreenfairy]

A friend emailed this evening to say that Brussels isn't Brussels any longer as it feels like the goodness and heart has been ripped out. On the plus side they have their grandchildren all day as they aren't in school but they are all in fear of what could happen.

Where does this all end? These people are monsters.

Edited by littlegreenfairy on Monday 23 November 22:24

[Athlon]

They have won this round surely? just by the fact that the city has ground to a stand still has put them a goal up, they have changed the way of life there however temporary without any actual happening..

[davepoth]

Athlon said:

They have won this round surely? just by the fact that the city has ground to a stand still has put them a goal up, they have changed the way of life there however temporary without any actual happening..

They've managed to get the USA and Russia on (nearly) the same side. That really doesn't look much like a win, long term.

[rich85uk]

They have well and truly won this round, 130 killed in Paris, 224 killed in Egypt, Paris economy will have taken a hit, probably millions spent on extra security in Brussels and Paris, Brussels on semi shutdown, Egypt's tourism properly fked, Europe concerned over terrorists smuggled in during the migrant crisis, one the Paris terrorists is still on the run

To top it off they have been able to make people across Europe wonder 'where's next'

[Stickyfinger]

rich85uk said:

To top it off they have been able to make people across Europe wonder 'where's next'

that was Raffa

[glazbagun]

rich85uk said:

They have well and truly won this round, 130 killed in Paris, 224 killed in Egypt, Paris economy will have taken a hit, probably millions spent on extra security in Brussels and Paris, Brussels on semi shutdown, Egypt's tourism properly fked, Europe concerned over terrorists smuggled in during the migrant crisis, one the Paris terrorists is still on the run

To top it off they have been able to make people across Europe wonder 'where's next'

And Tunisia. Tourist industry destroyed in the space of a year.

I'm still a believer in the statistical unlikleyhood of me being killed by a terrorist as opposed to a driver on his/her mobile, but I wonder if this could be what leads to US style gun ownership.

[iphonedyou]

vonuber said:

It's funny how we always seem to find money to blow stuff up and get new shiny toys for politicians to posture with, but not to stop the local library or nursery closing.

I suppose the thinking goes that without spending on the military there's a risk that we wouldn't have a safe country in which to operate the generously funded library or nursery.

It's a view not without merit.

[irocfan]

glazbagun said:

rich85uk said:

They have well and truly won this round, 130 killed in Paris, 224 killed in Egypt, Paris economy will have taken a hit, probably millions spent on extra security in Brussels and Paris, Brussels on semi shutdown, Egypt's tourism properly fked, Europe concerned over terrorists smuggled in during the migrant crisis, one the Paris terrorists is still on the run

To top it off they have been able to make people across Europe wonder 'where's next'

And Tunisia. Tourist industry destroyed in the space of a year.

I'm still a believer in the statistical unlikleyhood of me being killed by a terrorist as opposed to a driver on his/her mobile, but I wonder if this could be what leads to US style gun ownership.

& don't forget Beirut

[Patrick Bateman]

Turkey have shot down a Russian jet from the sounds of things.

[hornetrider]

Patrick Bateman said:

Turkey have shot down a Russian jet from the sounds of things.

Whoopsy. Any news on the pilot?

[Puggit]

hornetrider said:

Whoopsy. Any news on the pilot?

See Syria thread

[Patrick Bateman]

hornetrider said:

Whoopsy. Any news on the pilot?

This is footage I've found, presumably accurate-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoGAcgz9HOg

No sign of a parachute.

[irocfan]

hornetrider said:

Patrick Bateman said:

Turkey have shot down a Russian jet from the sounds of things.

Whoopsy. Any news on the pilot?

apparently both survived - so that's good news at least

[fatboy18]

irocfan said:

hornetrider said:

Patrick Bateman said:

Turkey have shot down a Russian jet from the sounds of things.

Whoopsy. Any news on the pilot?

apparently both survived - so that's good news at least

Not if they fall into the wrong hands its not! Last thing we need is more beheading videos

[p1stonhead]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-34907009

US issues worldwide travel alert.

How is it possible to 'avoid crowds and crowded places'?!