OFSTED find 9 out of 22 Faith Schools OUTSTANDING!!!
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Oh wait.... they don't .
http://news.sky.com/story/1593430/nine-out-of-22-f...
But what really beggars belief is this...
Just read this....
"At a meeting at Darul Uloom Islamic High School in Birmingham,
the only female governor sat out of sight of the male governors in an adjacent room
and could only communicate to her peers through a doorway."
What the juddering f**k!!!!!
Mr Wilshaw said: "Seven hundred children attend schools where inspectors considered that pupils were not being adequately prepared for life in modern Britain.
"This is deeply worrying given our national focus on this work over the past year.
"Equally worrying is that efforts to promote and embed these important values within the curriculum were undermined by the failure of leaders to model good practice, for example through the work of governors."
As a result of the "deeply worrying" findings, Mr Wilshaw recommended Ofsted prioritise the inspection of all the other private faith schools previously inspected by the Bridge Schools Inspectorate by August 2018.
The schools inspected:
:: Al-Ameen Primary School, Birmingham - Inadequate
:: Al-Aqsa School, Leicester - Requires improvement
:: Al-Khair School, Croydon - Good
:: Bethany School, Kent - Good
:: Bury Park Educational Institute (Al-Hikmah Secondary School), Luton - Requires improvement
:: Covenant Christian School, Stockport - Inadequate
:: Coventry Muslim School - Requires improvement
:: Darul Uloom Islamic High School, Birmingham - Inadequate
:: Emmanuel Christian School, Oxford - Requires improvement
:: Ghausia Girls’ High School, Nelson - Inadequate
:: Islamic Preparatory School Wolverhampton - Requires improvement
:: Jameah Academy, Leicester - Requires improvement
:: Jubilee House Christian School, Nottingham - Inadequate
:: Leicester Islamic Academy - Inadequate
:: Madni Institute, Slough - Requires improvement
:: Manchester Islamic High School for Girls - Outstanding
:: Manchester Muslim Preparatory School - Good
:: Palfrey Girls’ School, Walsall - Inadequate
:: Palm Tree School, Blackburn - Good
:: Springfield Christian School, London - Inadequate
:: The Cornerstone School, Epsom - Inadequate
:: The King’s School, Harpenden - Requires improvement
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http://news.sky.com/story/1593430/nine-out-of-22-f...
But what really beggars belief is this...
Just read this....
"At a meeting at Darul Uloom Islamic High School in Birmingham,
the only female governor sat out of sight of the male governors in an adjacent room
and could only communicate to her peers through a doorway."
What the juddering f**k!!!!!
Mr Wilshaw said: "Seven hundred children attend schools where inspectors considered that pupils were not being adequately prepared for life in modern Britain.
"This is deeply worrying given our national focus on this work over the past year.
"Equally worrying is that efforts to promote and embed these important values within the curriculum were undermined by the failure of leaders to model good practice, for example through the work of governors."
As a result of the "deeply worrying" findings, Mr Wilshaw recommended Ofsted prioritise the inspection of all the other private faith schools previously inspected by the Bridge Schools Inspectorate by August 2018.
The schools inspected:
:: Al-Ameen Primary School, Birmingham - Inadequate
:: Al-Aqsa School, Leicester - Requires improvement
:: Al-Khair School, Croydon - Good
:: Bethany School, Kent - Good
:: Bury Park Educational Institute (Al-Hikmah Secondary School), Luton - Requires improvement
:: Covenant Christian School, Stockport - Inadequate
:: Coventry Muslim School - Requires improvement
:: Darul Uloom Islamic High School, Birmingham - Inadequate
:: Emmanuel Christian School, Oxford - Requires improvement
:: Ghausia Girls’ High School, Nelson - Inadequate
:: Islamic Preparatory School Wolverhampton - Requires improvement
:: Jameah Academy, Leicester - Requires improvement
:: Jubilee House Christian School, Nottingham - Inadequate
:: Leicester Islamic Academy - Inadequate
:: Madni Institute, Slough - Requires improvement
:: Manchester Islamic High School for Girls - Outstanding
:: Manchester Muslim Preparatory School - Good
:: Palfrey Girls’ School, Walsall - Inadequate
:: Palm Tree School, Blackburn - Good
:: Springfield Christian School, London - Inadequate
:: The Cornerstone School, Epsom - Inadequate
:: The King’s School, Harpenden - Requires improvement
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Edited by Troubleatmill on Tuesday 24th November 18:56
It would be interesting to see if they are systematically worse than their non-religiously affliated counterparts.
The imposition of inappropriate literature on kids should be a sure fire driver for closure or secularisation.
The time has surely come for the tolerance of religious intolerance to be put under a very powerful microscope and treated accordingly.
The imposition of inappropriate literature on kids should be a sure fire driver for closure or secularisation.
The time has surely come for the tolerance of religious intolerance to be put under a very powerful microscope and treated accordingly.
Derek Smith said:
Faith schools have the distinct advantage of selection. The major problem with other state schools is that expulsions are extremely difficult.
If disruptive children stay away from the school, it is marked down.
Maybe they marked some down thinking all the girls were playing truant? They should have checked through the crack in the cleaning cupboard door...... If disruptive children stay away from the school, it is marked down.
Troubleatmill said:
For me it is the fact that a governor of the school is forced to sit out in the hallway and communicate through a gap in the door.
Unbelievable.
From what I have read of this, there is no evidence of the governor being "forced" to do anything, although I appreciate the juicy tit-bit from the report will generate far more outrage / daily express hits when presented this way (this thread being proof of that).Unbelievable.
My understanding of this is that the school (being mindful of, and open to all faiths) offers governors a choice of how they would like to sit, and the female governor used this freedom to chose to sit seperately from the men.
Which puts a whole different slant onto this particular finding within the report (I'm not concerned with other parts of the report).
Issues include, but not limited to:
- why are Ofsted mis-representing this occurance in a way that is obviously going to be picked up on and mis-represented by the media and public? It's almost if they've scoured their report for juicy morsels they can throw to the crowds to prove independent faith schools are badly run. I didn't think ofsted played the "trial by media" game - the ratings are clear enough. I hope this view of events didn't play any significant part in determining the school's rating, as it clearly has only a tiny amount of relevance to how teaching and learnign is assessed in schools
- is a governor being in an adjacent room connected by an open door able to participate fully in a meeting? Maybe..maybe not. We'd need to ask the people at the meeting. It's not impossible to do, but would be a bit arkward when it comes to "all in favour raise your hand" bit
- at what point do her religous preferences to remain seperate from men become "over-riden" by other realities or requirements? It's not as if her request was completely outrageous, for example attending whilst stark naked or in a Nazi uniform, which would obviously be unacceptable. And it's not as if it's completely impossible to put in place, such as requesting a seperate tube carriage, or seperate till queues. Sitting in an adjacent room seems impractical, but not unacceptable - given it was voluntary.
- ultimately, its the conumdrum of giving people equality only for them to choose to be unequal. Can you take that choice away because you don't like the choices being made? How is that better?
Personally I think it's completely ineffective to hold a meeting in such circumstances.
But I would be happier if people tried to avoid the predictable (and somewhat lazy) outrage on a story where events are being deliberately mis-stated by the offical report.
Ian
Guybrush said:
Troubleatmill said:
For me it is the fact that a governor of the school is forced to sit out in the hallway and communicate through a gap in the door.
Unbelievable.
How this primitive cr@p is slowly but surely creeping in ever more in our country is very sad.Unbelievable.
If so it brings into question her suitability as a governor at the least.
s3fella said:
It doesn't matter whose choice it is, really, they are all Governers, they should all be integrated. If she is the one at fault by chosing to segregate herself, rather than being segregated by others, they males should refuse to be in the meeting until she plays ball. IMHO.
They could just close the door.I thought faith schools produced good results in school rankings/league tables generally?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews...
I know that article is a year old but this years league tables for my local schools show that there were 4 faith schools in the top 10 best high schools (by GCSE results).
I went to a faith school myself and they're not these breeding grounds for negative religious ideology everybody seems to think they are. I don't see why if people want to have their own cultural and religious identity reflected within their education system it seems to be such an issue.
As with anything, you're going to get the good and the bad. There'll be some brilliant faith school, and some poor ones too. Just as there is with secular ones, but generally speaking I think faith schools are a good thing whom often actually are more conscious and work harder towards community cohesion than non-faith schools.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews...
I know that article is a year old but this years league tables for my local schools show that there were 4 faith schools in the top 10 best high schools (by GCSE results).
I went to a faith school myself and they're not these breeding grounds for negative religious ideology everybody seems to think they are. I don't see why if people want to have their own cultural and religious identity reflected within their education system it seems to be such an issue.
As with anything, you're going to get the good and the bad. There'll be some brilliant faith school, and some poor ones too. Just as there is with secular ones, but generally speaking I think faith schools are a good thing whom often actually are more conscious and work harder towards community cohesion than non-faith schools.
I think you need to change your thread title.
The Sky article states 9 out of 22 schools INADEQUATE, not outstanding.....
I have a feeling the unifying characteristic of all of these schools doing badly will be the fundamentalist nature of their offering. For instance:
The Sky article states 9 out of 22 schools INADEQUATE, not outstanding.....
I have a feeling the unifying characteristic of all of these schools doing badly will be the fundamentalist nature of their offering. For instance:
Springfield Christian School said:
At Springfield Christian Preparatory School, we believe that education plus the fear of God play a vital role in these formative years.
Palfrey Girls School said:
Through the grace and mercy of Allah S.W.T, It is with great pleasure to announce to the Muslim community, that Palfrey Girls School is going to introduce an ‘Islamic Foundation’ (Madrassah) for children from the age of 4 and onwards.
...
The aims of the Foundation is to illuminate and inspire our children in acquiring Islamic knowledge, and to provide opportunities for students to obtain in depth understanding of Hadith, Fiqh, Seerah, Aqaid and quality recitation of the Holy Quran. We also intend to inspire our students to develop true love of Allah S.W.T and our beloved Prophet S.A.W.
...
The aims of the Foundation is to illuminate and inspire our children in acquiring Islamic knowledge, and to provide opportunities for students to obtain in depth understanding of Hadith, Fiqh, Seerah, Aqaid and quality recitation of the Holy Quran. We also intend to inspire our students to develop true love of Allah S.W.T and our beloved Prophet S.A.W.
Edited by Mark Benson on Thursday 26th November 13:54
Carlique said:
I went to a faith school myself <...> generally speaking I think faith schools are a good thing whom often actually are more conscious and work harder towards community cohesion than non-faith schools.
Shame it failed to teach you the correct use of "who" versus "whom", or indeed, as in this case, "which".Einion Yrth said:
Carlique said:
I went to a faith school myself <...> generally speaking I think faith schools are a good thing whom often actually are more conscious and work harder towards community cohesion than non-faith schools.
Shame it failed to teach you the correct use of "who" versus "whom", or indeed, as in this case, "which".Troubleatmill said:
For me it is the fact that a governor of the school is forced to sit out in the hallway and communicate through a gap in the door.
Unbelievable.
Don't read everything what is written.Unbelievable.
I don't understand why OFTED would even comment on this. The governor choose her seating place herself and was not 'forced' to do anything. I agree it is probably not the best way to have a meeting but it's her choice and everyone should respect that.
I do believe that since the Trojan Horse malarki, OFSTED do seem to have a 'particular' agenda on faith schools.
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