Benefits of Multiculturalism

[del mar]

Genuine Question as it is topical.

Please no negative posts, I just wondered what the perceived benefits are / were ?

What do I or greater society gain from it ?

del

[anonymous-user]

Obvious benefits if everyone is on board. This happens so they arent:

http://new.spectator.co.uk/2014/06/save-our-childr...

[TheEnd]

Chinese takeaways, curry houses?

[anonymous-user]

In the case of the fens, a better gene pool

[jas xjr]

Wider choice of food? I am of Indian origin and I love roast lamb with all the trimmings.will be having it on Christmas day

[ATG]

I genuinely don't understand what the alternative is supposed to be. What you might call "white Anglo saxon old school Britain" is already a hotch potch of different cultures that don't mix much. E.g. Welsh working class coal miners versus the group you'd find playing golf at a smart club in Surrey. They speak differently, they do different social stuff, they don't mix much and there's a fair chance if you took one individual out of his usual social context and dropped him into the other one, he'd feel like he was sticking out and not in his comfort zone.

[Esseesse]

I don't think there are any benefits of genuine 'multiculturalism' (by that I mean clearly distinct cultures with little common ground). Sure there are always minor differences in the 'culture' of different people from around the country.

TheEnd said:

Chinese takeaways, curry houses?

jas xjr said:

Wider choice of food? I am of Indian origin and I love roast lamb with all the trimmings.will be having it on Christmas day

In the two above examples, having a Chinese or an Indian is a pretty normal and popular thing for anyone in the UK to do so it's not an example of multiculturalism, it is a monoculture that has broadened to include things that come from historically different cultures. Personally I think that a common (mono) culture morphing into something that all people can feel part of is important and good.

Edited by Esseesse on Monday 7th December 17:19

[MarshPhantom]

Multiculturalism has made some genuinely unbearable people emigrate from the UK.

[Guybrush]

Well I suppose multiculturalism will go hand in hand with a large population increase so, as you asked for benefits, I'd say house builder shares will do well. Employers may be happy with a large pool from which to pick, thus driving wages down. Considering multiculturalism in itself though, I find it difficult to think of any benefits.

[anonymous-user]

What is 'multiculturalism' on its own meant to mean? Do you mean multicultural integration? The benefit of that would be quite clear to me but it just doesn't, or hasn't yet, happened.

[soad]

Multiculturalism is a divisive tool which rather than allowing peaceful integration actually goes out of its way in enforcing a tribal apartheid.

[Esseesse]

doogz said:

Monoculturalism is the practice of actively preserving a national culture via the exclusion of external influences. Japan, China, South Korea, and North Korea are examples of monoculturalism.

This may be one example of a monoculture, but IMO a single culture does not necessarily mean a resistance to change.

doogz said:

Multiculturalism describes the existence, acceptance, or promotion of multiple cultural traditions within a single jurisdiction, usually considered in terms of the culture associated with an ethnic group.

I think only true while these multi-cultures are practised separately by different people. Once they become the mainstream they cease to be distinct cultures (therefore there's no multi about it).

Edited by Esseesse on Monday 7th December 17:26

[Hilts]

Here are the net benefits of multiculturalism...

[TheEnd]

Esseesse said:

doogz said:

Multiculturalism describes the existence, acceptance, or promotion of multiple cultural traditions within a single jurisdiction, usually considered in terms of the culture associated with an ethnic group.

I think only true while these multi-cultures are practised separately by different people. Once they become the mainstream they cease to be distinct cultures (therefore there's no multi about it).

That's generally saying that multiculturalism is impossible to exist, because as soon as it appears, you reclassify it as not being multicultural.

It's like saying there are no German cars in the UK, as although they are designed and made in Germany, once they are brought here and bought by UK drivers, they are now UK cars.

[grumbledoak]

Multiculturalism is just the spin phrase for the ghetto-isation that naturally occurs with high or uncontrolled immigration. It does not have 'benefits' as it isn't really a 'thing' in itself. Immigration has both benefits and costs, of course.

[del mar]

What do I mean ? - it is the use of the words in mainstream society, and the average man's understanding of it.

Sweden made a conscious decision in 1975 to become a Multi-cultural Society, I appreciate they appear to be having problems now, but why would you think it would be a good idea. They must have had some reason for doing it ?

Young lady at work suggested that it allows us to experience other Cultures - which is a good thing. Surely you go to their country to experience their culture ? I enjoyed 2 weeks in Turkey, but wouldn't want to live there. Nor can I honestly say I have experienced any Turkish Culture in the UK, or seen a positive effect of Turkish Culture in the UK. This could be my fault for not making an effort to visit certain areas of London but I like cars and naked women, I have no reason or interest to visit them.

[s2art]

ATG said:

I genuinely don't understand what the alternative is supposed to be. What you might call "white Anglo saxon old school Britain" is already a hotch potch of different cultures that don't mix much. E.g. Welsh working class coal miners versus the group you'd find playing golf at a smart club in Surrey. They speak differently, they do different social stuff, they don't mix much and there's a fair chance if you took one individual out of his usual social context and dropped him into the other one, he'd feel like he was sticking out and not in his comfort zone.

Well, yes, but there was an underlying cultural base. They all speak English for a start. By the (late?)sixties there was much more social mixing then you imply (grammar schools should claim much credit). The sort of multiculturalism we now have seems to be having the effect of reducing mixing between groups, once there are enough of a particular group, they tend to cluster.

[poo at Paul's]

Turned a lot of people extremely cynical and allowed at best mediocre individuals but ones with a "diversity" doctrine behind them rise to the highest echelons of power.

And it has made about 75% of the country "racists" it would seem.

[Esseesse]

TheEnd said:

Esseesse said:

doogz said:

Multiculturalism describes the existence, acceptance, or promotion of multiple cultural traditions within a single jurisdiction, usually considered in terms of the culture associated with an ethnic group.

I think only true while these multi-cultures are practised separately by different people. Once they become the mainstream they cease to be distinct cultures (therefore there's no multi about it).

That's generally saying that multiculturalism is impossible to exist, because as soon as it appears, you reclassify it as not being multicultural.

No, because for example forced marriages, polygamy, honour killings, languages other than English or Scottish and other things from cultures alien to the UK have not become mainstream and are therefore part of a distinct, separate culture. In these examples there are clearly more than one culture, so here is multiculturalism.

Edit: Sorry, but the car analogy is not a good one.

Edited by Esseesse on Monday 7th December 17:36

[anonymous-user]

jas xjr said:

Wider choice of food? I am of Indian origin and I love roast lamb with all the trimmings.will be having it on Christmas day

Now you're talking - the Indian culture I have experienced is brilliant. Really nice people, great food and outlook. I would welcome someone from India any day of the week, just not the nutter element but they are in every society.

The problem with a topic like this is people will focus on the nutters as being the norm.