Meanwhile in Poland
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BlackLabel said:
They (the EU) are also having trouble with Hungary and the Czech Republic. It's ironic that the countries who benefit most from the EU budget are the ones not playing ball.
(Reuters) - The European Union issued a one-month ultimatum to Hungary on Thursday to address its concerns over an education law it says runs counter to the bloc's values or face possible sanctions in court.
Czechs, Hungarians, and Poles have one month to start taking migrants
If migrants are so ducking great why does Germany sorry the eu care? Why doesn't Germany take them all and reap the benefits and vibrancy.(Reuters) - The European Union issued a one-month ultimatum to Hungary on Thursday to address its concerns over an education law it says runs counter to the bloc's values or face possible sanctions in court.
Czechs, Hungarians, and Poles have one month to start taking migrants
Edited by Pesty on Saturday 5th August 12:57
BlackLabel said:
They (the EU) are also having trouble with Hungary and the Czech Republic. It's ironic that the countries who benefit most from the EU budget are the ones not playing ball.
(Reuters) - The European Union issued a one-month ultimatum to Hungary on Thursday to address its concerns over an education law it says runs counter to the bloc's values or face possible sanctions in court.
Czechs, Hungarians, and Poles have one month to start taking migrants
Is this the first ultimatum or have they issued others previously? Either way I doubt that it will be the last, they're totally toothless and walking an incredibly fine line(Reuters) - The European Union issued a one-month ultimatum to Hungary on Thursday to address its concerns over an education law it says runs counter to the bloc's values or face possible sanctions in court.
Czechs, Hungarians, and Poles have one month to start taking migrants
voyds9 said:
pim said:
Working migrants came to the U.K.Many are leaving..
I believe this is how it should be.Productive members of society are welcome irrespective of their nationality. Add to my country I welcome you.
Sadly, that is not happening and the lowest of low scum get through and reside here at our expense.
Wonder how this one got his council flat in Oldbury, which WM police raided a fortnight ago?
http://www.france24.com/en/20170805-pole-detained-...
dandarez said:
With correct vetting, agreed.
Sadly, that is not happening and the lowest of low scum get through and reside here at our expense.
Wonder how this one got his council flat in Oldbury, which WM police raided a fortnight ago?
http://www.france24.com/en/20170805-pole-detained-...
If I go to Poland,would I get 'council' housing?Sadly, that is not happening and the lowest of low scum get through and reside here at our expense.
Wonder how this one got his council flat in Oldbury, which WM police raided a fortnight ago?
http://www.france24.com/en/20170805-pole-detained-...
Are there any figures for British in EU 'council' housing?
Nothingtoseehere said:
dandarez said:
With correct vetting, agreed.
Sadly, that is not happening and the lowest of low scum get through and reside here at our expense.
Wonder how this one got his council flat in Oldbury, which WM police raided a fortnight ago?
http://www.france24.com/en/20170805-pole-detained-...
If I go to Poland,would I get 'council' housing?Sadly, that is not happening and the lowest of low scum get through and reside here at our expense.
Wonder how this one got his council flat in Oldbury, which WM police raided a fortnight ago?
http://www.france24.com/en/20170805-pole-detained-...
Are there any figures for British in EU 'council' housing?
Digga said:
Unfortunately, one of the distortive effects of how EU rules work is each government is compelled to offer similar benefits to both it's own and EU citizens, but there does not need to be any reciprocal agreement.
I'm sure in any other circumstances that sort of thing would be labelled "a race to the bottom"...Murph7355 said:
Digga said:
Unfortunately, one of the distortive effects of how EU rules work is each government is compelled to offer similar benefits to both it's own and EU citizens, but there does not need to be any reciprocal agreement.
I'm sure in any other circumstances that sort of thing would be labelled "a race to the bottom"...dandarez said:
voyds9 said:
pim said:
Working migrants came to the U.K.Many are leaving..
I believe this is how it should be.Productive members of society are welcome irrespective of their nationality. Add to my country I welcome you.
Sadly, that is not happening and the lowest of low scum get through and reside here at our expense.
Wonder how this one got his council flat in Oldbury, which WM police raided a fortnight ago?
http://www.france24.com/en/20170805-pole-detained-...
You refer to one Polish man accused of a vile crime, and no doubt some Poles are criminals, but you omit to mention the many Poles working in jobs ranging from fruit picking to hedge funds. Are they all the lowest of low scum?
Breadvan72 said:
People who make statements such as "that is not happening" are perhaps unlikely to be influenced by evidence, but if you do some Googling you can find many reports from credible organisations that analyse the impacts of migration and conclude them to be positive.
You refer to one Polish man accused of a vile crime, and no doubt some Poles are criminals, but you omit to mention the many Poles working in jobs ranging from fruit picking to hedge funds. Are they all the lowest of low scum?
I think that's what he means by vetting correctly.You refer to one Polish man accused of a vile crime, and no doubt some Poles are criminals, but you omit to mention the many Poles working in jobs ranging from fruit picking to hedge funds. Are they all the lowest of low scum?
Reports suggest net impacts are positive. But net figures can hide a multitude of sins. If (very big "if") we could vet differently to more fully favour the "positive" over the "negative", that would increase the positive impacts.
(The studies I saw had even the net impact as pretty marginal. Though personally I have no issue with the theory, having only ever been subject to the positive side).
Breadvan72 said:
The reality is that amongst any population from any source some will be scuzzy, but many and usually most tend to be un-scuzzy. The sort of rhetoric that fuels UKIP and its ilk disregards this tedious reality and shrieks about scuzzy.
So as well as our own 'scuzzys' let in some more? I mean as long as we get some raspberries picked,who cares about the ones that get through.The EU debate, if you can dignify it with that title, has become dragged down into the raspberry bushes of immigration. There is so much more to the EU than the arrival of EU migrants, and focus on the relatively small negative impacts of a few crims moving around the EU (we export some of ours to Spain, IIRC) may distort analysis of relative benefits and downsides; but the discussion tends not to see the wood for the (plum) trees.
Breadvan72 said:
that analyse the impacts of migration and conclude them to be positive.
1. You might be wrong, ever considered that.2. I want a choice of who is allowed into my home, be they good or bad at tidying up.
3. People like you "telling me" who I should allow into my home is what makes people very angry, not that they are bad people for wanting a choice.
Breadvan72 said:
The reality is that amongst any population from any source some will be scuzzy, but many and usually most tend to be un-scuzzy. The sort of rhetoric that fuels UKIP and its ilk disregards this tedious reality and shrieks about scuzzy.
Which, of course, isn't to say you shouldn't try to filter out the scuzzy. We breed enough of that type ourselves. We should do everything we can to keep those from other nations (no matter where) out and to get rid once they show their true colours.
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