Is Britain Full?
Discussion
CAPP0 said:
PorkInsider said:
rs1952 said:
The kippers will be along in a minute...
Followed by the closet EDL members.It's nothing to do with racism. It's simply numbers. You can't pour a quart into a pint pot, not without it spilling and making a mess. But those who think that are immediately ridiculed by those who believe we should just leave the borders open and let however many more people want to, come in.
You're conflating my thoughts about the direction in which the thread might be dragged with me being an open-borders lefty. I'm far from that.
We've all seen how these threads often turn out on PH, though.
mondeoman said:
When you have to manage flow on your motorways, your infrastructure is not keeping, up, so on that basis, yes we are full.
How is that a measure of full!? Yes infrastructure needs improving, but we're not sure of room for improvement. Wales has some of the slowest trains and almost the least amount of electrified lines in the EU.Or are we just talking about south east issues?
Funkycoldribena said:
NinjaPower said:
FredClogs said:
I went to euro car parts today to buy a Bosch filter for my VW... They'd sold out... Bloody immigrants, they come over here, buying the stuff i wanted to buy...
Do you have a point to make? Every post I have ever read from him just seems to be pointless and sarcastic trolling, without actually contributing to a discussion.
Terminator X said:
Too many people it seems but the Govt need more for the tax grab. Broken system imho.
TX.
The elephant in the room is that the type of immigration we're getting is mostly not the type required to generate the tax revenue for them to be self sufficient wrt infrastructure. This inconvenient fact is glossed over as "immigrants don't use the NHS", which is a bare faced lie.TX.
We appear 51st in a list of sovereign states ordered by population density
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_st...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_st...
The question shouldn't be about Britain being full. It should be about England, specifically the SE, being "full". The answer is still no imo, although population density is a concern.
Pointing the finger at immigrants is a new(ish) fad but it was only last year iirc that net immigration overtook net increase from birth/death which is typically +200k/yr.
Would those calling for strict border controls also call for birth control? Like a kind of birth bouncer saying "Sorry mate, we're full. One out, one in"
At least the economic migrants can contribute tomorrow. Babies takes bloody years to pay their way.
Pointing the finger at immigrants is a new(ish) fad but it was only last year iirc that net immigration overtook net increase from birth/death which is typically +200k/yr.
Would those calling for strict border controls also call for birth control? Like a kind of birth bouncer saying "Sorry mate, we're full. One out, one in"
At least the economic migrants can contribute tomorrow. Babies takes bloody years to pay their way.
Ridley said:
Would those calling for strict border controls also call for birth control? Like a kind of birth bouncer saying "Sorry mate, we're full. One out, one in"
Birth control will never be on the agenda for population control in the UK any more than it will be on the agenda to curb 'climate change'.Peoples 'right' to have kids overrides all other considerations.
Moonhawk said:
We appear 51st in a list of sovereign states ordered by population density
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_st...
So just about in the top 20% then, it's certainly crowded in the urban areas, especially the urban SE the other 93% of the UK is pretty quiet.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_st...
We feel crowed because we are crowed in to a very small % of the UK land mass.
Well it's seem rational that if quality of life was impacted by population density then you'd expect an exodus from places like London. However for many people clearly the economic and social opportunity in cities outweigh other drawbacks as people continue to move to cities.
That's not to argue that cities should be made unpleasant, new housing and infrastructure initiatives need to take into account the changes in urbanisation and demographics.
That's not to argue that cities should be made unpleasant, new housing and infrastructure initiatives need to take into account the changes in urbanisation and demographics.
Orchid1 said:
Being in my late twenties the thing that affects me most at the minute is how on earth am I ever going to buy my own place that isn't a rat infested bedsit in the worst part of town and not spend the rest of my life eating baked beans to pay it off. Wether or not that is directly affected by the way the population is going is debatable though.
Next time you go on a train or plane look out of the window at the the HUGE masses of emptyness.I think much of your issue is down to green belt protectionism and nimbiyism in spades.
Remove that and you'll have no issues apart from large developers land banking to keep prices and profits high
It's certainly densely populated as a whole but I think Britain could make a lot better use of its space by not crowding everyone into the south east and by encouraging the development of apartments rather than tiny, mean houses. Both of which could be achieved by altering the planning laws IMO.
GG89 said:
Funkycoldribena said:
NinjaPower said:
FredClogs said:
I went to euro car parts today to buy a Bosch filter for my VW... They'd sold out... Bloody immigrants, they come over here, buying the stuff i wanted to buy...
Do you have a point to make? Pathetic.
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