Is Britain Full?
Discussion
NinjaPower said:
Ridley said:
GG89 said:
Funkycoldribena said:
NinjaPower said:
FredClogs said:
I went to euro car parts today to buy a Bosch filter for my VW... They'd sold out... Bloody immigrants, they come over here, buying the stuff i wanted to buy...
Do you have a point to make? Pathetic.
No we're not full. Ever been to Scotland or Wales? You can be driving for hours most probably at 20mph behind a tractor but you won't see a house. We have hundreds of square miles of nothing, no crops being grown, no houses just empty space.
There are of course cities like London that are crammed to bursting but as a whole we are nowhere close to full. Having said that what's the population per sq miles in London compared to some Chinese cities? I went to Shanghai a few years back, they have terraced sky scrapers! Now that's full!
There are of course cities like London that are crammed to bursting but as a whole we are nowhere close to full. Having said that what's the population per sq miles in London compared to some Chinese cities? I went to Shanghai a few years back, they have terraced sky scrapers! Now that's full!
speedyguy said:
Orchid1 said:
Being in my late twenties the thing that affects me most at the minute is how on earth am I ever going to buy my own place that isn't a rat infested bedsit in the worst part of town and not spend the rest of my life eating baked beans to pay it off. Wether or not that is directly affected by the way the population is going is debatable though.
Next time you go on a train or plane look out of the window at the the HUGE masses of emptyness.I think much of your issue is down to green belt protectionism and nimbiyism in spades.
Remove that and you'll have no issues apart from large developers land banking to keep prices and profits high
That's nonsense. Quality of life includes separation from work / industry and home life, space to do things, space for production of resources whether that's farms of factories.
Green belt protectionism is there for a reason. It's so the whole place isn't concreted over. If you prefer this scenario can I suggest we start with your garden plus swapping every room in your house to a family bedroom. Thanks.
BoRED S2upid said:
There are of course cities like London that are crammed to bursting but as a whole we are nowhere close to full. Having said that what's the population per sq miles in London compared to some Chinese cities? I went to Shanghai a few years back, they have terraced sky scrapers! Now that's full!
The Chinese are buying up London BoRED S2upid said:
No we're not full. Ever been to Scotland or Wales? You can be driving for hours most probably at 20mph behind a tractor but you won't see a house. We have hundreds of square miles of nothing, no crops being grown, no houses just empty space.
There are of course cities like London that are crammed to bursting but as a whole we are nowhere close to full. Having said that what's the population per sq miles in London compared to some Chinese cities? I went to Shanghai a few years back, they have terraced sky scrapers! Now that's full!
So why haven't those areas been utilised, maybe because people have decided what kind of country they want to live in where open spaces are preserved and because infrastructure that allows business and trade isn't as prevalent. I dont really know what is meant by 'full' but if those areas for which building is permitted are of a high density, which they most certainly are, not to mention overloaded services, then quality of life is being affected and we probably are 'full'. My opinion which has been expressed many times is that the rate of building is far too low, but look at the rate of objections to building... There are of course cities like London that are crammed to bursting but as a whole we are nowhere close to full. Having said that what's the population per sq miles in London compared to some Chinese cities? I went to Shanghai a few years back, they have terraced sky scrapers! Now that's full!
BoRED S2upid said:
No we're not full. Ever been to Scotland or Wales? You can be driving for hours most probably at 20mph behind a tractor but you won't see a house. We have hundreds of square miles of nothing, no crops being grown, no houses just empty space.
There are of course cities like London that are crammed to bursting but as a whole we are nowhere close to full. Having said that what's the population per sq miles in London compared to some Chinese cities? I went to Shanghai a few years back, they have terraced sky scrapers! Now that's full!
Yes, it is sThere are of course cities like London that are crammed to bursting but as a whole we are nowhere close to full. Having said that what's the population per sq miles in London compared to some Chinese cities? I went to Shanghai a few years back, they have terraced sky scrapers! Now that's full!
t in Shanghai and most other Chinese cities, hardly something to aspire to. If we're honest we'd admit that London has long been an overcrowded toilet too. It might be OK settling people in the highlands or the Welsh mountains but where are you going to put the schools and hospitals and how will we feed them, or would you offshore all that?
Otispunkmeyer said:
dandarez said:
FredClogs said:
I went to euro car parts today to buy a Bosch filter for my VW... They'd sold out... Bloody immigrants, they come over here, buying the stuff i wanted to buy...
Perhaps Microsoft have a filter to block out your pathetic posts.
BoRED S2upid said:
No we're not full. Ever been to Scotland or Wales?...
Yes, often, I am very fond of both places.BoRED S2upid said:
...You can be driving for hours most probably at 20mph behind a tractor but you won't see a house. We have hundreds of square miles of nothing, no crops being grown, no houses just empty space...
And that's is why. Not sure we should aspire to maxing-out population density or lower quality of life really.Ridley said:
NinjaPower said:
Ridley said:
GG89 said:
Funkycoldribena said:
NinjaPower said:
FredClogs said:
I went to euro car parts today to buy a Bosch filter for my VW... They'd sold out... Bloody immigrants, they come over here, buying the stuff i wanted to buy...
Do you have a point to make? Pathetic.
My original sardonic remark was to highlight the sheer idiocy of the standard kipper economic rhetoric i.e "if there weren't so many people there would be more "stuff" for me and I'd be happier". Regardless of whether a few middle aged white Englanders happiness and lifestyle should be any more important or worthy of protection (it isn't) the ridiculous nature of the economic argument that less would somehow mean more is worthy of my satire.
ATG said:
Otispunkmeyer said:
dandarez said:
FredClogs said:
I went to euro car parts today to buy a Bosch filter for my VW... They'd sold out... Bloody immigrants, they come over here, buying the stuff i wanted to buy...
Perhaps Microsoft have a filter to block out your pathetic posts.
te from such luminaries as the cloggmeister or the even less estimable jjlynnee. I think a button to be able to block a max of 5 people would be a grand idea (be even more interesting to see who the most blocked people are after a year....) or even a block per thread...
BoRED S2upid said:
No we're not full. Ever been to Scotland or Wales? You can be driving for hours most probably at 20mph behind a tractor but you won't see a house. We have hundreds of square miles of nothing, no crops being grown, no houses just empty space.
Well thats it then, lets just build over it, fk the future generations.We're supposed to be custodians of the land not the destroyers of it.
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