Jacob Rees-Mogg

[HairyPoppins]

Angrybiker said:

I can't provide that I'm afraid. I got rid of the books a while ago so I no longer have access to their contents. Even if I still had them I wouldn't take them with me to work just in case I needed to quote from them!

Just read the first chapter of the god delusion and it should be apparent.

I've read the book 3 times, which bit of the first chapter? Give me clue about the part that irked the most and I'll look it up.

[anonymous-user]

HairyPoppins said:

Roman Rhodes said:

gadgetmac said:

Er, how many books have you written on subjects that you think you know about?

What an odd thing to say.

I've not claimed to be in the same boat as anyone who has written on the subject(s)!

What an odd thing to say.

So you took my metaphorical term as literal? Yet I'm the one who lacks understanding?

You weren't actually in the boat with them? My mistake, how embarrassing!

On the other hand you were trying to validate your opinions by saying they were the same as others who have written on the subject. Brilliant, you are a genius and should have been paid for this research!

[HairyPoppins]

Roman Rhodes said:

HairyPoppins said:

Roman Rhodes said:

gadgetmac said:

Er, how many books have you written on subjects that you think you know about?

What an odd thing to say.

I've not claimed to be in the same boat as anyone who has written on the subject(s)!

What an odd thing to say.

So you took my metaphorical term as literal? Yet I'm the one who lacks understanding?

You weren't actually in the boat with them? My mistake, how embarrassing!

On the other hand you were trying to validate your opinions by saying they were the same as others who have written on the subject. Brilliant, you are a genius and should have been paid for this research!

Yes, shock horror I agree with the aforementioned writers on this particular subject. And all that without a book deal for myself in sight. It's feckin' uncanny I tell ya.

Perhaps it should be a stipulation of agreeing with what a writer has written that you need to have published yourself...I dunno.

[otolith]

Angrybiker said:

otolith said:

Angrybiker said:

Why anyone would want to be on the same boat as these people is beyond me. Even after reading the first chapter of the God delusion I was utterly confused why any academic institution at all would give this man a degree, let alone a fellowship. The guy is a complete idiot.
Mind you, Cambridge have been advertising for a sexual assault advisor....

Interesting. Care to share your critique of his academic papers on evolutionary theory? You know, the stuff that he's actually spent most of his academic life excelling in?

Not really. I wasn't in that field of study so I'm not qualified to do that. But I can criticise his books, which I have read, and which are complete garbage even from an academic perspective.

Why do you imagine the popular books he writes about religion have any bearing on whether he should have been given a degree or a fellowship?

[jjlynn27]

Eddie Strohacker said:

He's your regular one nation Tory. According to Mogg, the rise of foodbanks is due to us being a charitable lot & Labour refusing to tell people they exist.

http://uk.businessinsider.com/jacob-rees-mogg-food...

I've heard the show. Disappointing performance by Ferrari, expected performance by JRM.

'Yes, faith schools are good. It should be up to parents to decide where to send kids'. If some muslim 'scholar' made that remark NP^E would explode.

The idiocy of 'Labour didn't tell people that food bank exists' was bewildering, but I'd guess that faithful will just lap it up as usual.

ETA: Found an actual quote

JRM said:

Food banks pre-date the Conservative government and crucially, the change that took place was that the Conservative government allowed Jobcentre Plus to tell people that food banks existed,”

“And the former Labour government would not tell them, and that was a policy decision to stop people knowing that there was help available.”

Still, just like with Farage, groupies are amusing.

Edited by jjlynn27 on Thursday 14th September 17:36

[Lotobear]

What did he actually say regarding food banks ? In the guardian headline it states quite clearly that "the increasing use of food banks is uplifting" then when you read the article he appears to be quoted as saying "the increasing prevalence of food banks is uplifting" that's a very different implication from "use" and I am interested what he actually said or is It perhaps the case that the guardian is deliberately and clumsily trying to be misleading ?

[Oakey]

He said it was an uplifting show of charity

[Lotobear]

In that case he could only have been speaking of increased prevalence rather than their use ?

[deadslow]

HairyPoppins said:

deadslow said:

I don't believe in the existence of unicorns, but I cannot prove that they do not exist, therefore, those people who do believe in their existence must be correct

And the Flat Earth Society. At least listen to what they've all got say about it before jumping to conclusions

ah, but I can prove the Earth is not flat (people in different locations see different sky/star-scapes at night), its just this damn unicorn thing....

[HairyPoppins]

deadslow said:

HairyPoppins said:

deadslow said:

I don't believe in the existence of unicorns, but I cannot prove that they do not exist, therefore, those people who do believe in their existence must be correct

And the Flat Earth Society. At least listen to what they've all got say about it before jumping to conclusions

ah, but I can prove the Earth is not flat (people in different locations see different sky/star-scapes at night), its just this damn unicorn thing....

Answers in Genesis the Flat Earth Society's FAQ

https://wiki.tfes.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions

[Oakey]

Lotobear said:

In that case he could only have been speaking of increased prevalence rather than their use ?

“I don’t think the state can do everything,” he said. “It tries to provide a base of welfare that should allow people to make ends meet during the course of the week, but on some occasions that will not work.

“And to have charitable support given by people voluntarily to support their fellow citizens, I think is rather uplifting and shows what a good, compassionate country we are

[Derek Smith]

DeejRC said:

Now before anyone accuses me of being an Eton'ite, Im a Blackpool boy and if there was anywhere in the country where being called Sixtus is likely to give you a kicking - its Blackpool !

You'll need a Skeleton Army if all his children go to see the lights: Peter Theodore Alphege Rees-Mogg Mary Anne Charlotte Emma Thomas Wentworth Somerset Dunstan Rees-Mogg Anselm Charles Fitzwilliam Rees-Mogg Alfred Wulfric Leyson Pius Sixtus Dominic Boniface Christopher.

[55palfers]

Despite a comma drought, it looks like all his kids have an opportunity to pick a "normal" sounding nome de guerre

[dieselgrunt]

HairyPoppins said:

I've read the book 3 times, which bit of the first chapter? Give me clue about the part that irked the most and I'll look it up.

You won't get a response. The God Delusion was an excellent read.

[Burwood]

Angrybiker said:

HairyPoppins said:

Angrybiker said:

otolith said:

Angrybiker said:

Why anyone would want to be on the same boat as these people is beyond me. Even after reading the first chapter of the God delusion I was utterly confused why any academic institution at all would give this man a degree, let alone a fellowship. The guy is a complete idiot.
Mind you, Cambridge have been advertising for a sexual assault advisor....

Interesting. Care to share your critique of his academic papers on evolutionary theory? You know, the stuff that he's actually spent most of his academic life excelling in?

Not really. I wasn't in that field of study so I'm not qualified to do that. But I can criticise his books, which I have read, and which are complete garbage even from an academic perspective.

Can we get even 1 example of that please. I'm intrigued.

I can't provide that I'm afraid. I got rid of the books a while ago so I no longer have access to their contents. Even if I still had them I wouldn't take them with me to work just in case I needed to quote from them!

Just read the first chapter of the god delusion and it should be apparent.

You do know Dawkins earned his degree in the 60s whilst being mentored by a Nobel prize winning professor. He is abrasive and controversial but to say he is an idiot, well. He is thought provoking and a deep thinker. A world class biologist and wasn't made an Oxford professor for a bit of laugh.

[irocfan]

Derek Smith said:

You'll need a Skeleton Army if all his children go to see the lights: Peter Theodore Alphege Rees-Mogg Mary Anne Charlotte Emma Thomas Wentworth Somerset Dunstan Rees-Mogg Anselm Charles Fitzwilliam Rees-Mogg Alfred Wulfric Leyson Pius Sixtus Dominic Boniface Christopher.

TBH Wulfric is a pretty damn cool name too

[beedj]

Sorry if posted earlier somewhere in the 53 pages of this thread...

https://www.facebook.com/ISeeYouStories/posts/1230...

...bang on 😄

[TheChampers]

irocfan said:

TBH Wulfric is a pretty damn cool name too

As a Barry, I'd swap between heartbeats.

[4x4Tyke]

One of my friends, a Tory said today he (JRM) makes her skin crawl, he is the creepiest guy ever.

When I said I should join the Tories so I could help select him as your new leader, he will be a bigger loser than Mayhem. She hit me. Physically hit me, the first time.

Should I bang her back door in or knock sausages into her lawn?

[otolith]

Derek Smith said:

DeejRC said:

Now before anyone accuses me of being an Eton'ite, Im a Blackpool boy and if there was anywhere in the country where being called Sixtus is likely to give you a kicking - its Blackpool !

You'll need a Skeleton Army if all his children go to see the lights: Peter Theodore Alphege Rees-Mogg Mary Anne Charlotte Emma Thomas Wentworth Somerset Dunstan Rees-Mogg Anselm Charles Fitzwilliam Rees-Mogg Alfred Wulfric Leyson Pius Sixtus Dominic Boniface Christopher.

Wouldn't it be delightful if that list were picked up by the kind of people who give their kids odd names that make their teachers wince when they see the new register?