Balanced Question Time panel tonight - of course not! VOL 2

[Halb]

In TW now, Gove can play it off as jokes but Brillo it's it in the head with the weakness of May and her hapless campaign.
Young bloke is good too

[Stickyfinger]

jsf said:

DD has managed this whole process well, mostly unseen whilst the work is done and knows his subject well now.

DD ( and Rudd) shows the Cons have depth in their team.....Labour.....oh lord

[whoami]

Halb said:

Young bloke is good too

He was.

Intelligent, articulate and fair.

[Halb]

whoami said:

He was.

Intelligent, articulate and fair.

Makes a change...they have someone from Towie on later...


May currently coming in for a bit of a kicking in this vignette.

[skahigh]

The dialogue on TW is so much more watchable than any other political show I can think of.

You seem to get a more friendly discussion without the spin and with greater concessions by those representing both sides of the political divide, I wish wish wish more political debate could be had at this level without all the shouting and talking other people down.

[LDN]

whoami said:

Halb said:

Young bloke is good too

He was.

Intelligent, articulate and fair.

Yes, very good.

[Halb]

Crikey Gove must be desperate for a job in the new Tory cabinet, he's got these May non-answers down pat.

[Northbloke]

Both QT and Brillo worth watching for a change.

Davis came across very well I thought: calm, informed and logical. It made me think, in football parlance, how many of the Lab team would make it into the Cons starting line up? For example, Rudd, Davis, Rees Mogg all strong IMHO. Abbott, Rayner and McDonnell totally clueless and not even fit for the subs bench.

Don't know much about the Scots guy but he didn't wind me up as much as expected. Fairly measured I thought.

I generally feel a bit sorry for Clegg, having to play a minority role in Govt he was always onto a loser. But totally sick of his Euro bleating now.

Suzanne Evans is good but now wasted in UKIP.

Agree the youngish chap on This Week put his case very well. Would really like to hear more of this sort of alternative perspective without the usual frothing and anger. Well done feller.

[alfie2244]

Northbloke said:

Agree the youngish chap on This Week put his case very well. Would really like to hear more of this sort of alternative perspective without the usual frothing and anger. Well done feller.

He was good for a youngster but I never saw him chop down any trees

[Northbloke]

alfie2244 said:

Northbloke said:

Agree the youngish chap on This Week put his case very well. Would really like to hear more of this sort of alternative perspective without the usual frothing and anger. Well done feller.

He was good for a youngster but I never saw him chop down any trees

Haha, I was going to go for fella but it looks like I can just about get away with it:

http://wikidiff.com/feller/fella

[Norfolkit]

alfie2244 said:

Northbloke said:

Agree the youngish chap on This Week put his case very well. Would really like to hear more of this sort of alternative perspective without the usual frothing and anger. Well done feller.

He was good for a youngster but I never saw him chop down any trees

But every time TW has someone like him on, they're always from the left and it's always "it's the media init", I'll concede he was one of the more articulate ones.

[Cupramax]

He was good up until he started arguing with Gove and got owned.

[anonymous-user]

I like this TOWIE girl.

(did I just say that out loud )

[B'stard Child]

Stickyfinger said:

jsf said:

DD has managed this whole process well, mostly unseen whilst the work is done and knows his subject well now.

DD ( and Rudd) shows the Cons have depth in their team.....Labour.....oh lord

Depth in Labour - For sure in Diane Abbott there is - Might need some talc first

[Murph7355]

essayer said:

I had written off Davis as a buffoon but actually he came over quite well and I'm a bit more confident in his ability.
Related, I am slightly hopeful that the DExEU has actually prepared for the negotiations at hand and is just keeping very silent on the matter, rather than laying out all their cards on the table in advance.

Davis has never been a buffoon IMO. He's not a typical politician and I'm really hoping May follows his counsel.

[BlueHave]

The asian guy in the audience shouting about fake universities or colleges, saying there are too many foreigners from Pakistan and India etc. He made the Suzanne Evans of UKIP appear almost left wing.

I had no idea the extent to which even some immigrants hate other immigrants from their original country coming in.

Edited by BlueHave on Friday 2nd June 04:40

[Murph7355]

BlueHave said:

The asian guy in the audience shouting about fake universities or colleges, saying there are too many foreigners from Pakistan and India etc. He made the Suzanne Evans of UKIP appear almost left wing.

I had no idea the extent to which even some immigrants hate other immigrants from their original country coming in....

I think there always has been, right from the days when heavier immigration started.

The really amusing thing was Angus Robertson desperately wanting to use the word "racist" but catching himself. At one point I thought he might explode

[mikebradford]

"350bn we were supposed to get back"
Going on TV and making a tit of yourself

Overall a better episode, due to less talking over each other. And an audience that doesn't feel the need to boo comments made by the panel.

David Davis as always seemed to come across well.

[Welshbeef]

///ajd said:

Wiccan of Darkness said:

I don't know anyone who works in the city of London, perhaps someone with first hand access could confirm whether city firms are fleeing the UK already as a result of brexit or whether that is more scaremongering?

FWIW the ERASMUS programme in higher education is in tatters right now, and the G aren't doing a damn thing about it. I voted leave, there were going to be repercussions but we do get some good stuff from the EU, like ERASMUS.

Erasamus existed before the EU didn't it.

In what way is erasmus in tatters now? I thought it was still up for negotiation?

I noticed that Davis almost admitted no deal would be totally naff when he started to criticise Barry for quoting WTO tariffs as "aiming for failure". He wasn't aiming for it, but pointing out "no deal is better than a poor deal" would still be - in Davis own words - failure. Davis effectively said failure is better than a poor deal. Great.

[paulrockliffe]

Welshbeef said:

///ajd said:

Wiccan of Darkness said:

I don't know anyone who works in the city of London, perhaps someone with first hand access could confirm whether city firms are fleeing the UK already as a result of brexit or whether that is more scaremongering?

FWIW the ERASMUS programme in higher education is in tatters right now, and the G aren't doing a damn thing about it. I voted leave, there were going to be repercussions but we do get some good stuff from the EU, like ERASMUS.

Erasamus existed before the EU didn't it.

In what way is erasmus in tatters now? I thought it was still up for negotiation?

I noticed that Davis almost admitted no deal would be totally naff when he started to criticise Barry for quoting WTO tariffs as "aiming for failure". He wasn't aiming for it, but pointing out "no deal is better than a poor deal" would still be - in Davis own words - failure. Davis effectively said failure is better than a poor deal. Great.

I don't know what Welsh Beef was trying to say here, but perhaps it was along the lines of you completely missing Davis' point?

Aiming for failure was in reference to the Labour position of not leaving the EU with no deal. It guarantees a st sandwich being on offer.

I know you won't understand the nuances of negotiation that mean that is true, but if you pop into your local estate agent or car dealer, pick something for sale and tell them that you absolutely have to have it by hook or by crook. Then start negotiating on the price and see what sort of discount you end up with you might start to get it.