Elite Tax Haven Details Leaked
Discussion
Adam Ansel said:
Using tax havens, shell companies, nominees etc is usually legal. But governments don't like it because they want the results of your work to go to them.
However using theses mechanics to launder the proceeds of nefarious activities is illegal. The biggest criminals in the world, in terms of the trillions stolen, are the people who run countries. Which is why Putin is almost certainly the richest man in history, having siphoned of a chunk of Russia's oil revenues for many years.
Also a lot of the money that ends up in the tax haven accounts of the venal ruling classes is what we give away in "aid". 0.7% of GDP would be far better spent domestically.
You forgot to mention Islam - try harder next time.However using theses mechanics to launder the proceeds of nefarious activities is illegal. The biggest criminals in the world, in terms of the trillions stolen, are the people who run countries. Which is why Putin is almost certainly the richest man in history, having siphoned of a chunk of Russia's oil revenues for many years.
Also a lot of the money that ends up in the tax haven accounts of the venal ruling classes is what we give away in "aid". 0.7% of GDP would be far better spent domestically.
The gift that keeps on giving
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3522369/26...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3522369/26...
DM said:
The £26 million stolen during the Brink's Mat robbery in 1983 may have been channelled into an offshore company set up by Mossack Fonseca, the leaked documents reveal.
The theft, dubbed the 'Crime of the Century', involved criminals stealing gold bullion, diamonds and cash from the Heathrow International Trading Estate in London.
The leaked files show that 16 months later, Mossack Fonseca set up a Panama shell company called Feberion Inc.
Documents show that the man behind Feberion Inc. was Gordon Parry, who laundered money for the Brink's-Mat plotters.
An internal memo written in 1986 by Jürgen Mossack, one the co-founders of Mossack Fonseca, showed that it knew it was 'apparently involved in the management of money from the famous theft from Brink's-Mat in London'.
The memo stated: 'The company itself has not been used illegally, but it could be that the company invested money through bank accounts and properties that was illegitimately sourced'.
Documents appear to show that Mossack Fonseca later took steps to prevent British police from gaining control of the company in an attempt to get the money back.
The theft, dubbed the 'Crime of the Century', involved criminals stealing gold bullion, diamonds and cash from the Heathrow International Trading Estate in London.
The leaked files show that 16 months later, Mossack Fonseca set up a Panama shell company called Feberion Inc.
Documents show that the man behind Feberion Inc. was Gordon Parry, who laundered money for the Brink's-Mat plotters.
An internal memo written in 1986 by Jürgen Mossack, one the co-founders of Mossack Fonseca, showed that it knew it was 'apparently involved in the management of money from the famous theft from Brink's-Mat in London'.
The memo stated: 'The company itself has not been used illegally, but it could be that the company invested money through bank accounts and properties that was illegitimately sourced'.
Documents appear to show that Mossack Fonseca later took steps to prevent British police from gaining control of the company in an attempt to get the money back.
Escapegoat said:
Look, the only reason these shell companies and tax havens are necessary is because socialists keep stealing the profits earned by honest and kindly entrepreneurs.
If we didn't tax the fruits of their hard work as much as we do, we'd all have jobs building yachts and gold-plated back-scratchers for them and there'd be no unemployment. As it is, they have to keep their money in tax havens where it doesn't do anyone any good.
Or something.
Reminds me of those pretend news sites...on here, this can read as satire, or an actual interpretation of life. If we didn't tax the fruits of their hard work as much as we do, we'd all have jobs building yachts and gold-plated back-scratchers for them and there'd be no unemployment. As it is, they have to keep their money in tax havens where it doesn't do anyone any good.
Or something.
turbobloke said:
lionelf said:
Hosenbugler said:
Shock horror, governments take umbrage when people with some money make efforts to prevent said governemnts stealing their cash.
When did taxation become theft?
When was it first thought up?!
lionelf said:
turbobloke said:
lionelf said:
Hosenbugler said:
Shock horror, governments take umbrage when people with some money make efforts to prevent said governemnts stealing their cash.
When did taxation become theft?When was it first thought up?!
I am not some raging socialist but it does annoy me when hyper rich people completely dick the rest of humanity squirrelling billions that they can never spend away.
When is enough enough for these people, surely after a point it isnt about money and things any more, you will never go hungry, never be short of enough cash to buy whatever you want, even on my modest means, there isnt really an awful lot I really want.
Then, to service the hyper rich market, people invent things for them to spend their money on, the £1000 burger, jewel encrusted mobile phones and all manner of utter s
t based on mundane items covered in rare materials.
I look forward to some of them being held to account for their financial machinations, everyone likes a little bit of a respite from a few quid in tax, but millions ? time for some of these people to pay their share and stop buying so many diamond encrusted back scratchers as someone mentioned.
I know tax can be punitive but if everyone had to pay their dues then the rest of us might not get bummed quite so hard, being PAYE is like being a battery chicken.
When is enough enough for these people, surely after a point it isnt about money and things any more, you will never go hungry, never be short of enough cash to buy whatever you want, even on my modest means, there isnt really an awful lot I really want.
Then, to service the hyper rich market, people invent things for them to spend their money on, the £1000 burger, jewel encrusted mobile phones and all manner of utter s
t based on mundane items covered in rare materials.I look forward to some of them being held to account for their financial machinations, everyone likes a little bit of a respite from a few quid in tax, but millions ? time for some of these people to pay their share and stop buying so many diamond encrusted back scratchers as someone mentioned.
I know tax can be punitive but if everyone had to pay their dues then the rest of us might not get bummed quite so hard, being PAYE is like being a battery chicken.
Hosenbugler said:
lionelf said:
turbobloke said:
lionelf said:
Hosenbugler said:
Shock horror, governments take umbrage when people with some money make efforts to prevent said governemnts stealing their cash.
When did taxation become theft?When was it first thought up?!
lionelf said:
turbobloke said:
lionelf said:
Hosenbugler said:
Shock horror, governments take umbrage when people with some money make efforts to prevent said governemnts stealing their cash.
When did taxation become theft?When was it first thought up?!
maybe that's their Achilles heel (not).(*) French nationals pay income tax apparently, but they probably deserve it. Also if companies generate a certain percentage of income abroad they pay 33% corptax on profits
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