Man in Scotland arrested over dog's 'Nazi salute'.

[ape x]

Disastrous said:

ape x said:

fblm said:

You're not offensive, your endless incoherent drivel is just tedious. Ahm ooot. Top trolling.

So OK people will stump up 150k and counting to help a bloke who made a video for youtube of his girlfriends dog raising its paw whist he said "gas the jews" about 20 times who trolled the Police into arresting him thus making him famous over night.....

Do you think the nazi pug video is some worthy Art form then and not tedious trolling drivel?

You make some spurious point or other and when challenged, immediately change tack to try and continue the argument.

I don’t think you’re as clever as you think you are.

I don't think I am clever.... if i was clever i'd be trolling authority / Police via social media and making 150k and fame into the bargain..

Someone a few posts back was moaning about how unfair it all is that a black man can say the N word but they as a white person can't...... now why would you want to be allowed to use the N word?
Surely you just wouldn't want to use it anyway?

Such a weird thing to moan about...its like moaning about not being allowed to rape someone..... for a start you can and people do and judging by the stats many do it with no action being taken agaisnt them.... same with the N word....
But i would not ever want to rape anyone so why would i moan because some people can get away with it?
It would come across like i want to rape but am arsey that someone made it illegal....

"It's not fair....black people can say the N word but i can't....whaaa whaaaa...."

errrmmmm....why do you want to say the N word?

[Kccv23highliftcam]

ape x said:

The Police messed up, I doubt it will happen again.
Calm down. If anything it has helped Dankula become famous and if he is clever or gets the right people around him could get a good youtube career out of this.

People have been using authorities outrage for decades to make money / get famous and promote stuff.....
Go read up about Mary Whitehouse.....

It's called being edgy and edgy is cool, so if it upsets parents / teachers / authority etc it's 'cool'......

If it didn't upset authority then it would not be edgy, controversial and would be like Micheal McKintyre....

Edgy comedy is not the same as racist antisemitic neo Nazi white supremacist.... but this is where the Police messed up.... they need more training....

Edited by ape x on Saturday 28th April 09:17

No Police Scotland Did Not "Mess Up" They Did EXACTLY What They Have Been Fashioned To Do.

[ape x]

Kccv23highliftcam said:

ape x said:

The Police messed up, I doubt it will happen again.
Calm down. If anything it has helped Dankula become famous and if he is clever or gets the right people around him could get a good youtube career out of this.

People have been using authorities outrage for decades to make money / get famous and promote stuff.....
Go read up about Mary Whitehouse.....

It's called being edgy and edgy is cool, so if it upsets parents / teachers / authority etc it's 'cool'......

If it didn't upset authority then it would not be edgy, controversial and would be like Micheal McKintyre....

Edgy comedy is not the same as racist antisemitic neo Nazi white supremacist.... but this is where the Police messed up.... they need more training....

Edited by ape x on Saturday 28th April 09:17

No Police Scotland Did Not "Mess Up" They Did EXACTLY What They Have Been Fashioned To Do.

Who is at fault then because posters here have helped our 'victim' generate over 150k in a day or so...... so the Police were right to arrest Dankula in your opinion?

[Kccv23highliftcam]

ape x said:

Who is at fault then because posters here have helped our 'victim' generate over 150k in a day or so...... so the Police were right to arrest Dankula in your opinion?

Perhaps you should start your own little thread about that then, it'll be a first for you..

[ape x]

Kccv23highliftcam said:

ape x said:

Who is at fault then because posters here have helped our 'victim' generate over 150k in a day or so...... so the Police were right to arrest Dankula in your opinion?

Perhaps you should start your own little thread about that then, it'll be a first for you..

Well no the whole point is that the Police were wrong to arrest Dankula according to both here and the wider scale.......i think it is clear they over reacted.... but you don't seem to think so?
Maybe read the whole thread next time so as not to be so out of sync with the rest of PH...embarrassing...

[Penelope Stopit]

Kccv23highliftcam said:

No Police Scotland Did Not "Mess Up" They Did EXACTLY What They Have Been Fashioned To Do.

If this is correct it means that the police are no longer the police or am I mistaken

[Kccv23highliftcam]

ape x said:

Well no the whole point is that the Police were wrong to arrest Dankula according to both here and the wider scale.......i think it is clear they over reacted.... but you don't seem to think so?
Maybe read the whole thread next time so as not to be so out of sync with the rest of PH...embarrassing...

Perhaps you should follow your own advice then.

[Penelope Stopit]

Going up
£154,240 of £100,000 goal

[Goaty Bill 2]

Penelope Stopit said:

Kccv23highliftcam said:

No Police Scotland Did Not "Mess Up" They Did EXACTLY What They Have Been Fashioned To Do.

If this is correct it means that the police are no longer the police or am I mistaken

I believe Kccv23highliftcam is referring to the 'fashioning' of the police by their current political masters.

It is also deeply worrying that the Scottish prosecutors (Procurator Fiscal I believe?) allowed themselves to be drawn into this nonsense.
Surely they have a responsibility to ensure charges are not brought frivolously or without regard for Scottish/British/European law?

[Penelope Stopit]

Goaty Bill 2 said:

Penelope Stopit said:

Kccv23highliftcam said:

No Police Scotland Did Not "Mess Up" They Did EXACTLY What They Have Been Fashioned To Do.

If this is correct it means that the police are no longer the police or am I mistaken

I believe Kccv23highliftcam is referring to the 'fashioning' of the police by their current political masters.

It is also deeply worrying that the Scottish prosecutors (Procurator Fiscal I believe?) allowed themselves to be drawn into this nonsense.
Surely they have a responsibility to ensure charges are not brought frivolously or without regard for Scottish/British/European law?

Yes I realised what Kccv23highliftcam was referring to and thought to myself...mmmmm the police dont seem to be the police anymore, I appreciate that the politicians decide on many aspects of policing but....but this?????, the majority of people would surely think...."hold on a moment this is getting a touch out of hand" or in this case...."hold on a moment this is getting a touch out of paw"

[ape x]

Penelope Stopit said:

Goaty Bill 2 said:

Penelope Stopit said:

Kccv23highliftcam said:

No Police Scotland Did Not "Mess Up" They Did EXACTLY What They Have Been Fashioned To Do.

If this is correct it means that the police are no longer the police or am I mistaken

I believe Kccv23highliftcam is referring to the 'fashioning' of the police by their current political masters.

It is also deeply worrying that the Scottish prosecutors (Procurator Fiscal I believe?) allowed themselves to be drawn into this nonsense.
Surely they have a responsibility to ensure charges are not brought frivolously or without regard for Scottish/British/European law?

Yes I realised what Kccv23highliftcam was referring to and thought to myself...mmmmm the police dont seem to be the police anymore, I appreciate that the politicians decide on many aspects of policing but....but this?????, the majority of people would surely think...."hold on a moment this is getting a touch out of hand" or in this case...."hold on a moment this is getting a touch out of paw"

If the Police have rules set by the Politicians, they are still the POLICE.
The point is the Police took it upon themselves to arrest Dankula so any vitriol should be aimed at the Police.
People have donated 154k plus to stick one to the Police...which is good and i am glad PHers got involved in this.... last thing we want is for them to brush this under the carpet......

[anonymous-user]

ape x said:

If the Police have rules set by the Politicians, they are still the POLICE.
The point is the Police took it upon themselves to arrest Dankula so any vitriol should be aimed at the Police.
People have donated 154k plus to stick one to the Police...which is good and i am glad PHers got involved in this.... last thing we want is for them to brush this under the carpet......

I thought it is the CPS who prosecute and judge/mag makes judgement. So how does 150k stick it to the police exactly? I'm pretty sure a sheriff case is not binding to other cases as well...

This article sums it up for me.

https://www.commonspace.scot/articles/12703/mick-c...

'YouTube has created an epidemic of ‘comedians’ who assume you’re not laughing because you’re offended.” Richard Brown'

'And if you ever see him in person – don't forget to tell him that he's a talentless tt with all the wit and charm of a concentration camp guard, and as much charisma and stage presence as Hitler's missing left testicle. You'd just be exercising your own right to free speech, after all.'

Edited by Thesprucegoose on Monday 30th April 10:39

[ape x]

Thesprucegoose said:

ape x said:

If the Police have rules set by the Politicians, they are still the POLICE.
The point is the Police took it upon themselves to arrest Dankula so any vitriol should be aimed at the Police.
People have donated 154k plus to stick one to the Police...which is good and i am glad PHers got involved in this.... last thing we want is for them to brush this under the carpet......

I thought it is the CPS who prosecute and judge/mag makes judgement. So how does 150k stick it to the police exactly? I'm pretty sure a sheriff case is not binding to other cases as well...

This article sums it up for me.

https://www.commonspace.scot/articles/12703/mick-c...

'YouTube has created an epidemic of ‘comedians’ who assume you’re not laughing because you’re offended.” Richard Brown'

'And if you ever see him in person – don't forget to tell him that he's a talentless tt with all the wit and charm of a concentration camp guard, and as much charisma and stage presence as Hitler's missing left testicle. You'd just be exercising your own right to free speech, after all.'

Edited by Thesprucegoose on Monday 30th April 10:39

I fully agree with you on the "offended" thing, most of the time its not "offended" its simply disagreeing or morally being against something.

PHers love to harp on about the "easily offended"....

I am never offended by anything, just simply think some people are tts and say ttty things.

The irony of being "offended" by people being "easily offended" seems lost on most..

[irocfan]

Thesprucegoose said:

'And if you ever see him in person – don't forget to tell him that he's a talentless tt with all the wit and charm of a concentration camp guard, and as much charisma and stage presence as Hitler's missing left testicle. You'd just be exercising your own right to free speech, after all.'

Edited by Thesprucegoose on Monday 30th April 10:39

and that would be fair enough - I doubt anyone would argue the point

[Disastrous]

irocfan said:

Thesprucegoose said:

'And if you ever see him in person – don't forget to tell him that he's a talentless tt with all the wit and charm of a concentration camp guard, and as much charisma and stage presence as Hitler's missing left testicle. You'd just be exercising your own right to free speech, after all.'

Edited by Thesprucegoose on Monday 30th April 10:39

and that would be fair enough - I doubt anyone would argue the point

Least of all the man himself, I would think.

[ape x]

Disastrous said:

irocfan said:

Thesprucegoose said:

'And if you ever see him in person – don't forget to tell him that he's a talentless tt with all the wit and charm of a concentration camp guard, and as much charisma and stage presence as Hitler's missing left testicle. You'd just be exercising your own right to free speech, after all.'

Edited by Thesprucegoose on Monday 30th April 10:39

and that would be fair enough - I doubt anyone would argue the point

Least of all the man himself, I would think.

Although he did get a bit offended when people used their freedom of speech to mock him for hanging around with Tommy Robinson.... he made a video explaining why he was rubbing shoulders with TR....
And he has removed stuff posted on his youtube channel from people he disagrees with and i think blocked comments on one as well....so..

[andy_s]

ape x said:

Although he did get a bit offended when people used their freedom of speech to mock him for hanging around with Tommy Robinson.... he made a video explaining why he was rubbing shoulders with TR....
And he has removed stuff posted on his youtube channel from people he disagrees with and i think blocked comments on one as well....so..

Did he take anyone to court?

[ape x]

andy_s said:

ape x said:

Although he did get a bit offended when people used their freedom of speech to mock him for hanging around with Tommy Robinson.... he made a video explaining why he was rubbing shoulders with TR....
And he has removed stuff posted on his youtube channel from people he disagrees with and i think blocked comments on one as well....so..

Did he take anyone to court?

That's now the bench mark for being "offended" now is it? Jesus better report back on the "why is everyone so offended!" thread....

You are only offended if you take someone to court...

[andy_s]

ape x said:

andy_s said:

ape x said:

Although he did get a bit offended when people used their freedom of speech to mock him for hanging around with Tommy Robinson.... he made a video explaining why he was rubbing shoulders with TR....
And he has removed stuff posted on his youtube channel from people he disagrees with and i think blocked comments on one as well....so..

Did he take anyone to court?

That's now the bench mark for being "offended" now is it? Jesus better report back on the "why is everyone so offended!" thread....

You are only offended if you take someone to court...

That's exactly my point; he found stuff offensive/objectionable but didn't take them to court about it did he?

[ezi]

If you don't agree with what someone is saying then it's in your interests to block contact with them and online this is especially easy as it's just 1-click away, by him blocking people who he doesn't wish to hear from how is this in any way related to free speech?