Eleven children injured in Blyth park dog attack

[rpguk]

superlightr said:

I assumed/guessed the same as well. perhaps from reading/hearing about other dog attacks which turn out to be by that type of bread.

Ive not heard any/ common reports of the following dogs attacking:
Cairn Terrier
West highland Terrier
Sky Terrier
Border Terrier
Labrador
Poodle
Alsation
Doberman
Hound - Basset, Beagle
Spaniel

There was brilliant Malcom Gladwell article in the New Yorker that discusses profiling and various other things related to it. In it he discusses how pitbulls became known as a dangerous dog. How it's more about the owners attitudes and how the reputation of an animal is self fulfilling in that respect.

Anyway, he quotes one of the VP's of the A.S.P.C.A who says that "I haven’t seen a fatality involving a Doberman for decades, whereas in the nineteen-seventies they were quite common. If you wanted a mean dog, back then, you got a Doberman."

[anonymous-user]

xjay1337 said:

el stovey said:

Has the owner said "my dog has never shown any sign of aggression before"? That what I usually hear when I bump into some clueless idiot that can't control their dog.

Dogs can do weird and unpredictable things, you clueless idiot.

Thanks for the insight, you must be the dog whisperer.

It's perfectly easy to tell though when you meet someone and their dog, if they've trained it properly by their and their dogs behaviour and what they do after the dog does something aggressive.

Certain breeds attract crap owners. The staffy is one of them.

[anonymous-user]

rpguk said:

Anyway, he quotes one of the VP's of the A.S.P.C.A who says that "I haven’t seen a fatality involving a Doberman for decades, whereas in the nineteen-seventies they were quite common. If you wanted a mean dog, back then, you got a Doberman."

That's why everyone correctly guessed that this attack was by a staffy. That's the dog chavs get to portray a tough image with these days.

[xjay1337]

el stovey said:

Thanks for the insight, you must be the dog whisperer.

It's perfectly easy to tell though when you meet someone and their dog, if they've trained it properly by their and their dogs behaviour and what they do after the dog does something aggressive.

Certain breeds attract crap owners. The staffy is one of them.

You're the one claiming to be the dog whisperer lol.
Sometimes dogs can be sniffing each other happily, next thing one snaps for no reason.
Creatures are weird.
Staffies are usually kept by council scumbags.
Alls well .

[EnthusiastOwned]

rpguk said:

There was brilliant Malcom Gladwell article in the New Yorker that discusses profiling and various other things related to it. In it he discusses how pitbulls became known as a dangerous dog. How it's more about the owners attitudes and how the reputation of an animal is self fulfilling in that respect.

Anyway, he quotes one of the VP's of the A.S.P.C.A who says that "I haven’t seen a fatality involving a Doberman for decades, whereas in the nineteen-seventies they were quite common. If you wanted a mean dog, back then, you got a Doberman."

Great read, thanks for the link.

[ukaskew]

DocJock said:

A staffie woukd jump that fence easily.

My staffie used to get excited by people running. It was one of the hardest teaining tasks I experienced with him, getting him to ignore runners.

This is why I go running at 9pm, less chance of running into a (badly or untrained) dog. Owners telling me 'don't worry he's a nice dog' doesn't really help when you're terrified of the things.

[anonymous-user]

xjay1337 said:

Sometimes dogs can be sniffing each other happily, next thing one snaps for no reason.
.

Ah that explains it. they just do stuff for no reason, :just random behaviour.

FFS please don't tell me you have a dog.

[superlightr]

el stovey said:

Thanks for the insight, you must be the dog whisperer.

It's perfectly easy to tell though when you meet someone and their dog, if they've trained it properly by their and their dogs behaviour and what they do after the dog does something aggressive.

Certain breeds attract crap owners. The staffy is one of them.

absolutely. Im not blaming the dog its the owner and their lack of training control which is the main issue. At present that type of dog appears at present to attract a certain type of owner. I would also bet that type of owner is also more likely to have a criminal record then say a west highland's owner.

Be an interesting study !!

[otolith]

I'm thinking about the incidents when a dog gets into a field with a herd of sheep and attacks many of them. Kids running around screaming excitedly got the dog over-excited, I guess, and at some point it flipped over from playing with humans to attacking prey.

In these incidents, I feel sorry for the people who are bitten, and for the dog which is killed, entirely down to the irresponsibility of the owner.

If it's being reported that the dog was at some point muzzled, I have to ask what it had done in the past to make that seem a necessity.

[xjay1337]

el stovey said:

Ah that explains it. they just do stuff for no reason, :just random behaviour.

FFS please don't tell me you have a dog.

Ok, I won't.

[AshVX220]

ukaskew said:

This is why I go running at 9pm, less chance of running into a (badly or untrained) dog. Owners telling me 'don't worry he's a nice dog' doesn't really help when you're terrified of the things.

If you have a major phobia then hopefully by telling any reasonable owner will ensure they keep their dog away from you. It's not always easy to tell how frightened someone is unless they say so.

Can I ask why you have a phobia of dogs?

As per many posts, there's actually no such thing as a bad dog, just bad owners and training (or lack of), in my experience.

[wc98]

superlightr said:

I assumed/guessed the same as well. perhaps from reading/hearing about other dog attacks which turn out to be by that type of bread.

Ive not heard any/ common reports of the following dogs attacking:
Cairn Terrier
West highland Terrier
Sky Terrier
Border Terrier
Labrador
Poodle
Alsation
Doberman
Hound - Basset, Beagle
Spaniel

it was a lab/retriever cross that took the end off my left ring finger and resulted in over 100 stitches between both hands .

[superlightr]

what happened?

[anonymous-user]

superlightr said:

what happened?

I am going to guess it bit him, quite a few times.

[Cotty]

otolith said:

I'm thinking about the incidents when a dog gets into a field with a herd of sheep and attacks many of them.

I see what you mean but sheep still need to man the fk up.

[ali_kat]

Lucas CAV said:

xjay1337 said:

Dogs can do weird and unpredictable things, you clueless idiot.

Then by that token they should not be off leads or unmuzzled, presumably?

Xjay is right, Dogs can do unexpected things

However, 9/10 owners will notice that their dog is acting unpredictably and react accordingly.

Owners like this woman... won't & this is the result And yes, their dogs should be on a lead at all times.

My SiLs Staffie wears a muzzle when she is being walked during the day. Not because she needs it, she doesn't, she's over friendly and very gentle. 2 weeks ago she found a shoebox in a hedge on her last, late night walk & gently pulled it out. It was wrapped with duck tape and by Brother was surprised that she took such care/interest in it. Until he opened it to find it contained 2, 6 week old kittens.

She wears the muzzle because my SiL is fed up of people accusing the dog of attacking theirs (when she is NEVER off lead and they allow theirs to run over with no control).

[Timmy40]

Cotty said:

otolith said:

I'm thinking about the incidents when a dog gets into a field with a herd of sheep and attacks many of them.

I see what you mean but sheep still need to man the fk up.

It's quite amusing when they do. Confuses the dog completely. If a sheep stands it's ground and starts to advance on the dog more often than not it's the dog that runs.

Same with cattle. The cattle chase the dog. Dog decides best thing to do is hide behind the owner. Owner gets flattened.

[anonymous-user]

Timmy40 said:

Cotty said:

otolith said:

I'm thinking about the incidents when a dog gets into a field with a herd of sheep and attacks many of them.

I see what you mean but sheep still need to man the fk up.

It's quite amusing when they do. Confuses the dog completely. If a sheep stands it's ground and starts to advance on the dog more often than not it's the dog that runs.

Same with cattle. The cattle chase the dog. Dog decides best thing to do is hide behind the owner. Owner gets flattened.

I got chased by cows the other day. I was halfway through a field (with my dog on a lead, on a public footpath) and they decided they didn't like the look of me and loads of them started running towards me. It was all muddy too and hard to make a getaway

I googled it when I got home, apparently it's quite common around this time of year with calves etc.

[wc98]

superlightr said:

what happened?

mother in laws dog . she had not long been diagnosed with multipole sclerosis and was moving house to a bungalow in between going for various tests. we were looking after the dog for a week until she moved into her new place. i was feeding her dog and the pup we had at the time, just the same way i had done the previous 4 days and when the pup went for the older dogs dinner , just as it had the previous times i fed them this time the lab grabbed it. i managed to get the pup out of its mouth but unfortunately it got a hold of both my hands in the process.

fairly surreal feeling it remove a bit of my finger, but no pain at the time. we put it down to the upset in routine and certainly did not want to compound my mother in laws situation by asking to get the dog put down. unfortunately a couple of months later it turned on my young brother in law while he was walking the dog completely out of the blue. the dog was then put down and the vet reckoned the dog most likely had a brain tumour. my mother in law reckoned it was awake all the time when she moved into the new place (she had trouble sleeping herself after the ms diagnosis)and she could hear it pacing the hall from her bedroom every night.poor bugger must have been in agony for a very long time, so i felt no ill will toward it for what happened.

subsequently looking at pictures of the dog ( a real stunner, lovely coat, broad chest and full of life ) you could see his muzzle darkening and his eyes went almost pure black over the period of around a year. he was a lovely big dog and it was heartbreaking when he was put to sleep for the whole family.

what happened to me has a very small risk of happening to anyone else, but the fact remains the bigger and stronger a dog the greater the potential it has to do damage if something does go wrong. i am a bit shy of larger dogs these days myself and appreciate no matter what the owner thinks of their own dogs you have to be conscious of the fact others may be wary of them.

the situation regarding this dog in the park attacking kids is ridiculous.young kids are just as unpredictable as animals and anyone that would let a dog run around with numbers of children like that should never be allowed to own a dog again, imo.

[otolith]

Timmy40 said:

Same with cattle. The cattle chase the dog. Dog decides best thing to do is hide behind the owner. Owner gets flattened.

I was once menaced by a bull - I was stood in the middle of a small river, fishing. I'd waded across and dumped my gear on the opposite bank (which I shouldn't have done). The bull came over and was pawing at my stuff and generally being aggressive. The farmer came over with a little yappy dog, which chased the beast off (while the farmer had a moan at me).