Owen Jones

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CoolHands

18,701 posts

196 months

Thursday 16th January 2020
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Is there a gofundme for the perpetrators? I’d give

Getragdogleg

8,775 posts

184 months

Thursday 16th January 2020
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Excuse my ignorance but as far as I was aware it's not common to have your house searched if you have a scuffle with someone even if you get arrested.

Why did the Police have reason to go so far as to look through the blokes property to find this memorabilia.

Not everyone who get arrested will have their place gone through, they must have thought it was worth doing or they were very keen and motivated to get a conviction.

Gareth79

7,692 posts

247 months

Thursday 16th January 2020
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Getragdogleg said:
Excuse my ignorance but as far as I was aware it's not common to have your house searched if you have a scuffle with someone even if you get arrested.

Why did the Police have reason to go so far as to look through the blokes property to find this memorabilia.

Not everyone who get arrested will have their place gone through, they must have thought it was worth doing or they were very keen and motivated to get a conviction.
Since a journalist was attacked it's understandable for the police to want to know if it was pre-planned/targetted.

Getragdogleg

8,775 posts

184 months

Thursday 16th January 2020
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Gareth79 said:
Getragdogleg said:
Excuse my ignorance but as far as I was aware it's not common to have your house searched if you have a scuffle with someone even if you get arrested.

Why did the Police have reason to go so far as to look through the blokes property to find this memorabilia.

Not everyone who get arrested will have their place gone through, they must have thought it was worth doing or they were very keen and motivated to get a conviction.
Since a journalist was attacked it's understandable for the police to want to know if it was pre-planned/targetted.
Stinks a bit to me, almost like he is a protected class of person who gets better justice.

This will boost his ego and send the message that his beliefs are right and anyone who disagrees with him is wrong and a potential thug.

He shouldn't have had a cuffing, that much is true but a search of the home of the bloke that hit him and this big trial is not going to do anything to cause Owen to examine any of his views or serve as a moderator to show him that sometimes you need to just shut up.

He's not an important person, he writes stuff down and offers his opinion for everyone to read and this sends the message that he is important and down for special treatment .

Everyone needs to hear that they are wrong, too much protection and you end up with dictators and tyrants.



768

13,711 posts

97 months

Thursday 16th January 2020
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Gareth79 said:
Since a journalist was attacked it's understandable for the police to want to know if it was pre-planned/targetted.
Because he's a journalist?

Escapegoat

5,135 posts

136 months

Thursday 16th January 2020
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CoolHands said:
Is there a gofundme for the perpetrators? I’d give
Thanks for providing context for your contributions on PH. No wonder you're a Trump fan, too.

DeepEnd

4,240 posts

67 months

Thursday 16th January 2020
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"It stinks that a white supremacist violent thug has been found out by the police".

Post Brexit NP&E 2020.

A new low.

Getragdogleg

8,775 posts

184 months

Thursday 16th January 2020
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DeepEnd said:
"It stinks that a white supremacist violent thug has been found out by the police".

Post Brexit NP&E 2020.

A new low.
No. It stinks that a pub fight is being investigated more efficiently than much more serious crimes just because it involves a left wing wind bag.

It's telling to me that people don't feel comfortable criticising the left in case they feel the wrath of the law yet anyone can say anything about the right and its ignored.

Try it, apparently we have a far right government here right now, criticise them, write what you like about them and nothing will happen. Do the same under a far left government and you will get a knock on the door.

Edit to add; both side of this are bellends, what happened here was a meeting of bellends.

Edited by Getragdogleg on Thursday 16th January 21:31

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 16th January 2020
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Threads like this remind me of why read PH despite being left leaning. To get out of my lefty echo chamber. All my mates think the same so it is refreshing to hear different views such as why it's okay to incite violence against someone with different political views to yourself.

Getragdogleg

8,775 posts

184 months

Thursday 16th January 2020
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Sambucket said:
Threads like this remind me of why read PH despite being left leaning. To get out of my lefty echo chamber. All my mates think the same so it is refreshing to hear different views such as why it's okay to incite violence against someone with different political views to yourself.
Really, for fks sake give your head a shake.

Owen is an insufferable knob, self important and full of how right he is. He is one side of this, the other side is the moron or morons who hit him in this instance.

Both ends of this are wrong and need each other to moderate their opinions.

Living in a left wing bubble is as bad as a right wing one.



anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 16th January 2020
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Getragdogleg said:
Really, for fks sake give your head a shake.

Owen is an insufferable knob, self important and full of how right he is. He is one side of this, the other side is the moron or morons who hit him in this instance.

Both ends of this are wrong and need each other to moderate their opinions.

Living in a left wing bubble is as bad as a right wing one.
Very interesting perspective. What other opinions do you feel justify violence? Can you list some?

Mothersruin

8,573 posts

100 months

Thursday 16th January 2020
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768 said:
Gareth79 said:
Since a journalist was attacked it's understandable for the police to want to know if it was pre-planned/targetted.
Because he's a journalist?
He's a journalist?

Getragdogleg

8,775 posts

184 months

Thursday 16th January 2020
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Sambucket said:
Getragdogleg said:
Really, for fks sake give your head a shake.

Owen is an insufferable knob, self important and full of how right he is. He is one side of this, the other side is the moron or morons who hit him in this instance.

Both ends of this are wrong and need each other to moderate their opinions.

Living in a left wing bubble is as bad as a right wing one.
Very interesting perspective. What other opinions do you feel justify violence? Can you list some?
What? Is reading comprehension not a strong point of yours?

Where have I written or implied I agree with violence?

I disagree with it, I also disagree with Owen getting special treatment for this incident. How many other pub fights happened on the same night that just got forgotten or not investigated?

DeepEnd

4,240 posts

67 months

Thursday 16th January 2020
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Sambucket said:
Very interesting perspective. What other opinions do you feel justify violence? Can you list some?
It's like Trump and Charlottesville.

"Blame on both sides"

Should be unbelievable.

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 16th January 2020
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Getragdogleg said:
What? Is reading comprehension not a strong point of yours?

Where have I written or implied I agree with violence?

I disagree with it, I also disagree with Owen getting special treatment for this incident. How many other pub fights happened on the same night that just got forgotten or not investigated?
Why did it get investigated? You seem to have decided and then based an odd argument on the left getting special treatment on it.

Getragdogleg

8,775 posts

184 months

Thursday 16th January 2020
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El stovey said:
Why did it get investigated? You seem to have decided and then based an odd argument on the left getting special treatment on it.
I asked why it got investigated in my first post on the topic. The answer was that Owen is a journalist.

I disagree with violence.

I disagree with the notion that this case is different to any other pub fight and don't like the idea that the police have investigated this case to such a degree while not investing all the others the same way.

Justice should be equal and not just for people deemed more important than others.

So, pursue every case in this way or none.

CoolHands

18,701 posts

196 months

Thursday 16th January 2020
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Escapegoat said:
CoolHands said:
Is there a gofundme for the perpetrators? I’d give
Thanks for providing context for your contributions on PH. No wonder you're a Trump fan, too.
hmm 63 million people voted for trump. And about 51.1 million people (approx) in the uk think jones is a bellend of the highest order. Maybe I'm not that unusual despite the PH loudmouths


anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 16th January 2020
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Getragdogleg said:
El stovey said:
Why did it get investigated? You seem to have decided and then based an odd argument on the left getting special treatment on it.
I asked why it got investigated in my first post on the topic. The answer was that Owen is a journalist.

I disagree with violence.

I disagree with the notion that this case is different to any other pub fight and don't like the idea that the police have investigated this case to such a degree while not investing all the others the same way.

Justice should be equal and not just for people deemed more important than others.

So, pursue every case in this way or none.
But that answer came from 768. You’ve based your view that jones gets special (left wing) treatment on an answer from 768 and then based a whole theory about the left getting special treatment on it.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

199 months

Thursday 16th January 2020
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What car does Owen Jones drive is he a petrol head or a G wizz driver

Randy Winkman

16,207 posts

190 months

Thursday 16th January 2020
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Sambucket said:
Threads like this remind me of why read PH despite being left leaning. To get out of my lefty echo chamber. All my mates think the same so it is refreshing to hear different views such as why it's okay to incite violence against someone with different political views to yourself.
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