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Evanivitch said:
Mothersruin said:
Evanivitch said:
Jazzy Jag said:
Evanivitch said:
Except Owen Jones' personality isn't the reason it happened. .
You were there?Please give us your first hand account of what did happen...
I'm still happy to sit back and wait for evidence that it was politically motivated, I'm not jumping on his bandwagon. But the point we were discussing (you might have missed it) is that someone's personality isn't an excuse for violence against them.
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Politically motivated because of the hard left politics coming out of his mouth at that time but had no idea who he was?
I don't get the cynicism tbh.
I've already said I'm cautious about his stating it was politically motivated but some of the comments here seem to be suggesting he's over-egging what happened or even that nothing happened.
Bloke gets beaten up on night out in London.
Why's that such a leap?
I've already said I'm cautious about his stating it was politically motivated but some of the comments here seem to be suggesting he's over-egging what happened or even that nothing happened.
Bloke gets beaten up on night out in London.
Why's that such a leap?
As a pure guess. Going purely from his online/media persona
I daresay that the assaulters had no idea he was THE Owen Jones. He's pretty inconsequential in the great scale of things. Even people from his part of London wont know him. SInce who buys the Guardian these days? I would also guess his sexual orientation is largely irrelevant these days. Does anybody in the real world care about who someone is shagging? Male or Female? (aside from those whose religions make them thick) So don't think either of those things are the trigger for the incident
I fear it's more a case of slightly drunk Owen bumps into overly aggressive macho drunk guy. The situation escalates with some verbals on both sides. Owen doesn't strike me as the most aware of his surroundings. So fails to see the warning signs, and try to defuse the situation like a normal person would (better to fake an apology that escalate with someone whose a bit punchy IME) and it all gets a bit pushy and shouty.
I would imagine most here have seen "proper street fights" A graze on your belly is not the same thing at all. He should be grateful it wasn't a broken nose or worse.
He'll live. And be writing another article for the webs
te feverishly today "The far right are out of control in the UK, it's time we imprisoned for life everyone I don't like"
I daresay that the assaulters had no idea he was THE Owen Jones. He's pretty inconsequential in the great scale of things. Even people from his part of London wont know him. SInce who buys the Guardian these days? I would also guess his sexual orientation is largely irrelevant these days. Does anybody in the real world care about who someone is shagging? Male or Female? (aside from those whose religions make them thick) So don't think either of those things are the trigger for the incident
I fear it's more a case of slightly drunk Owen bumps into overly aggressive macho drunk guy. The situation escalates with some verbals on both sides. Owen doesn't strike me as the most aware of his surroundings. So fails to see the warning signs, and try to defuse the situation like a normal person would (better to fake an apology that escalate with someone whose a bit punchy IME) and it all gets a bit pushy and shouty.
I would imagine most here have seen "proper street fights" A graze on your belly is not the same thing at all. He should be grateful it wasn't a broken nose or worse.
He'll live. And be writing another article for the webs
te feverishly today "The far right are out of control in the UK, it's time we imprisoned for life everyone I don't like"
2002 said:
If he was attacked as stated then the Left may have a valid point where they equate words to violence.Using Left logic Owen's words incited violence therefore he shouldn't be allowed to speak.
Countdown said:
amusingduck said:
Countdown said:
amusingduck said:
DeepEnd said:
If you condemn the milkshake, you should condemn this attack.
Is there any actual evidence that this was a politically motivated attack? 
As far as I can see, everything that Jones doesn't like is politically motivated and the fault of Lenin, Marx or anyone with views to the right of his own.
He then makes a living out of being a complete cry baby about it.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/0/jussie-smollett-e...
Just saying.
He then makes a living out of being a complete cry baby about it.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/0/jussie-smollett-e...
Just saying.
Essentially, I don’t believe him. I’m sure something happened and he ended up on the floor. But his “kicked me in skull” is bks IMO. If he had been attacked as he made out he wouldn’t be rabbiting on like he is, all normal and chirpy. I like how it’s the far right that has attacked him even though there’s no evidence whatsoever. Perhaps they saw him and thought what a prick, and gave him a whack; not exactly inconceivable is it.
ks IMO. If he had been attacked as he made out he wouldn’t be rabbiting on like he is, all normal and chirpy. I like how it’s the far right that has attacked him even though there’s no evidence whatsoever. Perhaps they saw him and thought what a prick, and gave him a whack; not exactly inconceivable is it.CoolHands said:
.... But his “kicked me in skull” is bks IMO. If he had been attacked as he made out he wouldn’t be rabbiting on like he is, all normal and chirpy. ...
Indeed! That would leave a serious wound compared to a light scuffing. And would IMO require a hospital visit at minimum!ks IMO. If he had been attacked as he made out he wouldn’t be rabbiting on like he is, all normal and chirpy. ...S1KRR said:
CoolHands said:
.... But his “kicked me in skull” is bks IMO. If he had been attacked as he made out he wouldn’t be rabbiting on like he is, all normal and chirpy. ...
Indeed! That would leave a serious wound compared to a light scuffing. And would IMO require a hospital visit at minimum!ks IMO. If he had been attacked as he made out he wouldn’t be rabbiting on like he is, all normal and chirpy. ...I was fine the next day and perfectly capable of rabitting on about it to anyone who was interested.
techiedave said:
The vile and outrageous posts on here are the sort of thing that allows Owen to justifiably make this claim.
You can bet that meme was created by someone who was completely triggered by their hero getting milkshaked.I think Owen & Corbyn are nearly as bad as Farage, so I’m not taking sides. This extremism is pathetic on both sides.
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