Owen Jones

[anonymous-user]

Any genuine evidence that an attack actually took place yet?

[snake_oil]

REALIST123 said:

Any genuine evidence that an attack actually took place yet?

Surely the Met will shortly be releasing the CCTV?

[jsc15]

REALIST123 said:

Any genuine evidence that an attack actually took place yet?

If Owen tells you he was beaten mercilessly to within an inch of his life, by a far-right Brexit-voting white gammon-faced homophobic racist Tory scum Nazi and his mates, THEN THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED.

He is a VICTIM.

You are NOT ALLOWED TO QUESTION THIS

Logic, proof, and facts don't matter

OWEN SHALL NOT BE DOUBTED

[George Smiley]

I hazard a guess his employees want to get rid of him but are scared of doing so.

[Johnnytheboy]

Imagine for a moment being in a pub near Owen Jones and a group of his friends at 2am when they've been on the pop for hours.

John McDonnell and Seumas Milne would be in the queue to hit him.

[biggbn]

jsc15 said:

REALIST123 said:

Any genuine evidence that an attack actually took place yet?

If Owen tells you he was beaten mercilessly to within an inch of his life, by a far-right Brexit-voting white gammon-faced homophobic racist Tory scum Nazi and his mates, THEN THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED.

He is a VICTIM.

You are NOT ALLOWED TO QUESTION THIS

Logic, proof, and facts don't matter

OWEN SHALL NOT BE DOUBTED

The downside being what? We doubt any claim of assault that doesn't lead to broken bones or stitches and brand the victim a snowflake who should grow a pair? This forum is, I'm afraid, so two faced, so one sided it's hard to take posters seriously. I know several people who have been victims of minor assaults that I would not even class as assaults but it impacted seriously on their lives, one becoming a semi recluse through fear of a worse hiding.

I think Mr Jones is an agitator, and my guess is he is not a particularly pleasant individual, and yes, I can see why many are taking shadenfreude from this. But the law must be impartial. It must be administered with equanimity lest it becomes farcical.


I do not agree with many of you guys politics or personal ideologies. I have never wished you hurt or assaulted though. Mr Jones has not helped his cause by immediately blaming the far right, I can see that, bit the fact is this is an alleged assault and must be followed up the police being a publicly accountable body

[768]

I don't think anyone's suggesting the law shouldn't be impartial?

[biggbn]

768 said:

I don't think anyone's suggesting the law shouldn't be impartial?

Have you ready the whole thread? Some people have basically posted, good, he deserves it, he is a little $hit...wpnder how they would feel if it happened to someone they cared about?

[mick987]

Another Jussie Smollet never happened or boyfriend got upset because he spilt his babycham.

[psi310398]

biggbn said:

The downside being what? We doubt any claim of assault that doesn't lead to broken bones or stitches and brand the victim a snowflake who should grow a pair? This forum is, I'm afraid, so two faced, so one sided it's hard to take posters seriously. I know several people who have been victims of minor assaults that I would not even class as assaults but it impacted seriously on their lives, one becoming a semi recluse through fear of a worse hiding.

I think Mr Jones is an agitator, and my guess is he is not a particularly pleasant individual, and yes, I can see why many are taking shadenfreude from this. But the law must be impartial. It must be administered with equanimity lest it becomes farcical.


I do not agree with many of you guys politics or personal ideologies. I have never wished you hurt or assaulted though. Mr Jones has not helped his cause by immediately blaming the far right, I can see that, bit the fact is this is an alleged assault and must be followed up the police being a publicly accountable body

You are, of course, right that the police should investigate whether a crime has been committed and, if appropriate, bring any alleged attackers before the beak.

In the spirit of equality before the law, if OJ is, in the event, found to have wasted police time, then he, too, should feel the full force of the law.

[biggbn]

psi310398 said:

biggbn said:

The downside being what? We doubt any claim of assault that doesn't lead to broken bones or stitches and brand the victim a snowflake who should grow a pair? This forum is, I'm afraid, so two faced, so one sided it's hard to take posters seriously. I know several people who have been victims of minor assaults that I would not even class as assaults but it impacted seriously on their lives, one becoming a semi recluse through fear of a worse hiding.

I think Mr Jones is an agitator, and my guess is he is not a particularly pleasant individual, and yes, I can see why many are taking shadenfreude from this. But the law must be impartial. It must be administered with equanimity lest it becomes farcical.


I do not agree with many of you guys politics or personal ideologies. I have never wished you hurt or assaulted though. Mr Jones has not helped his cause by immediately blaming the far right, I can see that, bit the fact is this is an alleged assault and must be followed up the police being a publicly accountable body

You are, of course, right that the police should investigate whether a crime has been committed and, if appropriate, bring any alleged attackers before the beak.

In the spirit of equality before the law, if OJ is, in the event, found to have wasted police time, then he, too, should feel the full force of the law.

On that point we agree 100%

[psi310398]

biggbn said:

Have you ready the whole thread? Some people have basically posted, good, he deserves it, he is a little $hit...wpnder how they would feel if it happened to someone they cared about?

He is indeed a little st and, if he was assaulted, he shouldn’t have been, even if the assailants turn out to have been provoked. But I certainly won’t lose any sleep over his getting a slapping.

However, as a matter of public policy, you can’t have yobs going around hitting people. So, yes, the police do need to act.

[George Smiley]

biggbn said:

Have you ready the whole thread? Some people have basically posted, good, he deserves it, he is a little $hit...wpnder how they would feel if it happened to someone they cared about?

He provokes reactions to suit his agenda.

My mum thinks I’m angry and short tempered. Further from the truth. When I visit she will purposely push and prod and if I snap she waves her arms saying look at my son the monster.

[biggbn]

George Smiley said:

He provokes reactions to suit his agenda.

My mum thinks I’m angry and short tempered. Further from the truth. When I visit she will purposely push and prod and if I snap she waves her arms saying look at my son the monster.

I am angry, emotional and short tempered but have learnt to play the game. To paraphrase ts Elliot, I put on a face to meet the faces other people put on

[George Smiley]

biggbn said:

I am angry, emotional and short tempered but have learnt to play the game. To paraphrase ts Elliot, I put on a face to meet the faces other people put on

If you poke a circus bear Enough times it will take your head off.

Owen is entitled to his views but the way he portrays the likes of myself (vote Tory voted leave) then you erode all sympathy.

[768]

biggbn said:

768 said:

I don't think anyone's suggesting the law shouldn't be impartial?

Have you ready the whole thread? Some people have basically posted, good, he deserves it, he is a little $hit...wpnder how they would feel if it happened to someone they cared about?

I have, but I see a distinction between the morality of a situation and the legality.

[Greeny]

https://twitter.com/kthopkins/status/1163836537504...
The perps have been caught on ctv
Mr Owens was correct in recognising the military precision in the way the attack was carried out

Edited by Greeny on Tuesday 20th August 21:11

[biggbn]

George Smiley said:

If you poke a circus bear Enough times it will take your head off.

Owen is entitled to his views but the way he portrays the likes of myself (vote Tory voted leave) then you erode all sympathy.

What about (what aboutery #12456!!) the way anyone of 'the left' is portrayed on here, is that then fair. I'm not taking sides but the sauce must be equitable for both goose and gander, no?

[biggbn]

768 said:

biggbn said:

768 said:

I don't think anyone's suggesting the law shouldn't be impartial?

Have you ready the whole thread? Some people have basically posted, good, he deserves it, he is a little $hit...wpnder how they would feel if it happened to someone they cared about?

I have, but I see a distinction between the morality of a situation and the legality.

I fail to see a morality issue? If he was assaulted the perpetrators should be treated the same way as had they assaulted anyone else. If it is proven to be politically or sexually motivated, same rules apply. I feel the same about the oafs who threw milkshakes at farage and co, a cake at Clarkson, an egg at Prescott. Why should people get a pass because their victims are divisive characters?

[jakesmith]

biggbn said:

What about (what aboutery #12456!!) the way anyone of 'the left' is portrayed on here, is that then fair. I'm not taking sides but the sauce must be equitable for both goose and gander, no?

The left are nasty little toads though