Lots of angry people today.
Discussion
London424 said:
jjlynn27 said:
crankedup said:
Driving through Spain is a real pleasure, mile after mile of almost completely deserted beautiful new roads. At one stage I did wander if I had somehow managed to drive onto one of these roads before it has been official opened to traffic,. New roads cut through hillsides and some dual carriageways. What is the cost per mile for new roads? No doubt this is all EU funded, whilst dear loll Blighty makes do with roads unfit for cart horses.
Genuine question. Why do you think that is? How come that Spanish can get these new roads and we can't? Do you have any explanation for that at all?The UK as a 'sort of inner' doesn't get the nice shiny stuff that is obvious to all.
There is a road next to me, that was built with 'EU money'. It's just like any other road, slightly newer but that's about it.
The fact that I still can't get my head around is; I think everyone sensible (I'm being pc here) agrees that we have to have access to free market and not on WTO terms. For that we'll have to pay membership fee. I doubt that that fee is going to be any less than we pay now. Are trade agreement with other countries going to be worth it? I most certainly hope so.
crankedup said:
Driving through Spain is a real pleasure, mile after mile of almost completely deserted beautiful new roads. At one stage I did wander if I had somehow managed to drive onto one of these roads before it has been official opened to traffic,. New roads cut through hillsides and some dual carriageways. What is the cost per mile for new roads? No doubt this is all EU funded, whilst dear loll Blighty makes do with roads unfit for cart horses.
A lot of the roads I drive on in Spain are toll roads. The locals refuse to pay the tolls so stick to the other roads.bmw535i said:
I see George Osbourne doesn't seem angry. In fact I'd say he was pretty happy. He's announced that he's abandoning the budget surplus by 2020 idea as a result of the referendum result.
Saved by the bell I'd say - at least it's sort of an excuse that means he can quietly slide away without having to admit failure in a few years.
I think he had missed all his targets anyway.Saved by the bell I'd say - at least it's sort of an excuse that means he can quietly slide away without having to admit failure in a few years.
Jockman said:
bmw535i said:
I see George Osbourne doesn't seem angry. In fact I'd say he was pretty happy. He's announced that he's abandoning the budget surplus by 2020 idea as a result of the referendum result.
Saved by the bell I'd say - at least it's sort of an excuse that means he can quietly slide away without having to admit failure in a few years.
I think he had missed all his targets anyway.Saved by the bell I'd say - at least it's sort of an excuse that means he can quietly slide away without having to admit failure in a few years.
Was on the way to missing this one too.
Oh, and Mrs May, currently new potential boss of Georgie (if she keeps him in position), announced that she would be binning this target anyway.
Quelle surprise.
mike9009 said:
Still angry here! 
However we have got to make the best out of this situation with some much needed positivity. Just hope our politicians can go the same way soon.....
All the people in the forefront of the TV campaigns need to get back together and broadcast their view of the positives that lie ahead, and mention the road bumps ahead too, Speak with one voice. However we have got to make the best out of this situation with some much needed positivity. Just hope our politicians can go the same way soon.....Men & Women politicians, For the sake of your country, put aside your petty politics and Lead for God's sake!!!!!!!
mike9009 said:
Smiler. said:
Is everyone still angry or have they gotten the sand out now?
Still angry here! However we have got to make the best out of this situation with some much needed positivity. Just hope our politicians can go the same way soon.....Still, 100 years ago today, that average British chap had a tad more to be angry about than us.
don4l said:
We have a housing shortage, and a growing population. Only a fool would pull out of a housing development at the moment.
House prices do not drop when demand is greater than supply.
Sorry Don, you are missing the fundamentals. House prices do not drop when demand is greater than supply.
The issue for housebuilders at this point is cashflow not pricing. They can slow development if sales tail off to control reduction in pricing. However, they can't switch off their overhead so profitability suffers. If completed product sits around too long any remaining profitability will be chewed away by interest charges. Those interest charges also eat away at the long term value in their land bank.
The interest rate is not going to be the issue for banks. They will be focusing on affordability and risk. That plus uncertainty is enough to slow the market.
Investment property was riding high until last week and investors were already showing caution as there is little opportunity for upside if you buy at the top of the market. At this point no-one knows what discount to apply to a valuation so the industry stalls while people 'wait and see'. Is suspect this is the issue for Blueg33's investor and I entirely understand why he is angry.
This is not people whinging. Brexit is affecting peoples livelihoods and you are going to have to accept that it is not universally popular.
Smiler. said:
mike9009 said:
Smiler. said:
Is everyone still angry or have they gotten the sand out now?
Still angry here! However we have got to make the best out of this situation with some much needed positivity. Just hope our politicians can go the same way soon.....Still, 100 years ago today, that average British chap had a tad more to be angry about than us.
Anyway I am a little less angry now Wales are through
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