2nd Referendum please - I don't like how that one panned out
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johnxjsc1985 said:
don4l said:
I was raised as a staunch republican. The only subject that my national school teacher spoke English in... was English. All other subjects were taught in Gaelic.
I've been able to see for years that the Queen does a fantastic job. She also makes a huge profit for us.
I was really sad when Britannia was sold off. Britannia was a floating sales emporium for Britain, but the lefties were not happy that it was luxuriously appointed.
Well, duh!
That is exactly why foreign leaders were happy to queue up to board her.
It would have only cost £10m to refit her. She would have paid for herself in a couple of weeks.
I remember seeing the Queen quite emotional when it went it was Blair's reminder he is a republican he should have been sent to the Tower ...time for that stillI've been able to see for years that the Queen does a fantastic job. She also makes a huge profit for us.
I was really sad when Britannia was sold off. Britannia was a floating sales emporium for Britain, but the lefties were not happy that it was luxuriously appointed.
Well, duh!
That is exactly why foreign leaders were happy to queue up to board her.
It would have only cost £10m to refit her. She would have paid for herself in a couple of weeks.
sherbertdip said:
The main problem with Britannia was that she was essentially cobbled together with bits that were on the shelf, over the years spares dwindled, obtaining or having replacement parts made became harder and she spent more time broken than than operating, yes it was a great shame to have her pensioned off, but she became a liability. On a related note I worked with one of the officers that served on her, the stories he told about the parties were, well enlightening!
Any (dead) pigs' heads?jonnyb said:
So why didn't it happen when we said it? Probably because we have been denigrating the EU for so long that everyone had stopped listening. Would it have been different if we had been the in the heart of the EU project? Of course it would, we wouldn't have been the outsiders that we became, and that ultimately caused us to leave. We could have been running the show instead of sticking 2 fingers up to it. There would have been no question about controlling immigration and the free market because we would be writing the rules.
Agreed. If we'd had the courage to go balls-deep from the get go things would have been very different.Mario149 said:
Agreed. If we'd had the courage to go balls-deep from the get go things would have been very different.
You might want to check your history.http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/cabinetpapers/t...
Got my reply today
The UK Petitions Team said:
Dear Donald Duck,
The Government has responded to the petition you signed – “EU Referendum Rules triggering a 2nd EU Referendum”.
Government responded:
The European Union Referendum Act received Royal Assent in December 2015, receiving overwhelming support from Parliament. The Act did not set a threshold for the result or for minimum turnout.
The EU Referendum Act received Royal Assent in December 2015. The Act was scrutinised and debated in Parliament during its passage and agreed by both the House of Commons and the House of Lords. The Act set out the terms under which the referendum would take place, including provisions for setting the date, franchise and the question that would appear on the ballot paper. The Act did not set a threshold for the result or for minimum turnout.
As the Prime Minister made clear in his statement to the House of Commons on 27 June, the referendum was one of the biggest democratic exercises in British history with over 33 million people having their say. The Prime Minister and Government have been clear that this was a once in a generation vote and, as the Prime Minister has said, the decision must be respected. We must now prepare for the process to exit the EU and the Government is committed to ensuring the best possible outcome for the British people in the negotiations.
Foreign and Commonwealth Office
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Yes I signed it as Donald Duck The Government has responded to the petition you signed – “EU Referendum Rules triggering a 2nd EU Referendum”.
Government responded:
The European Union Referendum Act received Royal Assent in December 2015, receiving overwhelming support from Parliament. The Act did not set a threshold for the result or for minimum turnout.
The EU Referendum Act received Royal Assent in December 2015. The Act was scrutinised and debated in Parliament during its passage and agreed by both the House of Commons and the House of Lords. The Act set out the terms under which the referendum would take place, including provisions for setting the date, franchise and the question that would appear on the ballot paper. The Act did not set a threshold for the result or for minimum turnout.
As the Prime Minister made clear in his statement to the House of Commons on 27 June, the referendum was one of the biggest democratic exercises in British history with over 33 million people having their say. The Prime Minister and Government have been clear that this was a once in a generation vote and, as the Prime Minister has said, the decision must be respected. We must now prepare for the process to exit the EU and the Government is committed to ensuring the best possible outcome for the British people in the negotiations.
Foreign and Commonwealth Office
Click this link to view the response online:
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215?re...
This petition has over 100,000 signatures. The Petitions Committee will consider it for a debate. They can also gather further evidence and press the government for action.
The Committee is made up of 11 MPs, from political parties in government and in opposition. It is entirely independent of the Government. Find out more about the Committee: https://petition.parliament.uk/help#petitions-comm...
Thanks,
The Petitions team
UK Government and Parliament
This is bound to start a storm:
official 2nd referendum email reply said:
You recently signed the petition “EU Referendum Rules triggering a 2nd EU Referendum”:
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215
The Petitions Committee has decided to schedule a House of Commons debate on this petition. The debate will take place on 5 September at 4.30pm in Westminster Hall, the second debating chamber of the House of Commons. The debate will be opened by Ian Blackford MP.
The Committee has decided that the huge number of people signing this petition means that it should be debated by MPs. The Petitions Committee would like to make clear that, in scheduling this debate, they are not supporting the call for a second referendum. The debate will allow MPs to put forward a range of views on behalf of their constituents. At the end of the debate, a Government Minister will respond to the points raised.
A debate in Westminster Hall does not have the power to change the law, and won’t end with the House of Commons deciding whether or not to have a second referendum. Moreover, the petition – which was opened on 25 May, well before the referendum – calls for the referendum rules to be changed. It is now too late for the rules to be changed retrospectively. It will be up to the Government to decide whether it wants to start the process of agreeing a new law for a second referendum.
The Petitions Committee is a cross-party group of MPs. It is independent from Government. You can find out more about the Committee on its website: http://www.parliament.uk/petitions-committee/role
Thanks,
The Petitions team
UK Government and Parliament
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215
The Petitions Committee has decided to schedule a House of Commons debate on this petition. The debate will take place on 5 September at 4.30pm in Westminster Hall, the second debating chamber of the House of Commons. The debate will be opened by Ian Blackford MP.
The Committee has decided that the huge number of people signing this petition means that it should be debated by MPs. The Petitions Committee would like to make clear that, in scheduling this debate, they are not supporting the call for a second referendum. The debate will allow MPs to put forward a range of views on behalf of their constituents. At the end of the debate, a Government Minister will respond to the points raised.
A debate in Westminster Hall does not have the power to change the law, and won’t end with the House of Commons deciding whether or not to have a second referendum. Moreover, the petition – which was opened on 25 May, well before the referendum – calls for the referendum rules to be changed. It is now too late for the rules to be changed retrospectively. It will be up to the Government to decide whether it wants to start the process of agreeing a new law for a second referendum.
The Petitions Committee is a cross-party group of MPs. It is independent from Government. You can find out more about the Committee on its website: http://www.parliament.uk/petitions-committee/role
Thanks,
The Petitions team
UK Government and Parliament
lostkiwi said:
This is bound to start a storm:
Why do you think it will start a storm?official 2nd referendum email reply said:
You recently signed the petition “EU Referendum Rules triggering a 2nd EU Referendum”:
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215
The Petitions Committee has decided to schedule a House of Commons debate on this petition. The debate will take place on 5 September at 4.30pm in Westminster Hall, the second debating chamber of the House of Commons. The debate will be opened by Ian Blackford MP.
The Committee has decided that the huge number of people signing this petition means that it should be debated by MPs. The Petitions Committee would like to make clear that, in scheduling this debate, they are not supporting the call for a second referendum. The debate will allow MPs to put forward a range of views on behalf of their constituents. At the end of the debate, a Government Minister will respond to the points raised.
A debate in Westminster Hall does not have the power to change the law, and won’t end with the House of Commons deciding whether or not to have a second referendum. Moreover, the petition – which was opened on 25 May, well before the referendum – calls for the referendum rules to be changed. It is now too late for the rules to be changed retrospectively. It will be up to the Government to decide whether it wants to start the process of agreeing a new law for a second referendum.
The Petitions Committee is a cross-party group of MPs. It is independent from Government. You can find out more about the Committee on its website: http://www.parliament.uk/petitions-committee/role
Thanks,
The Petitions team
UK Government and Parliament
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215
The Petitions Committee has decided to schedule a House of Commons debate on this petition. The debate will take place on 5 September at 4.30pm in Westminster Hall, the second debating chamber of the House of Commons. The debate will be opened by Ian Blackford MP.
The Committee has decided that the huge number of people signing this petition means that it should be debated by MPs. The Petitions Committee would like to make clear that, in scheduling this debate, they are not supporting the call for a second referendum. The debate will allow MPs to put forward a range of views on behalf of their constituents. At the end of the debate, a Government Minister will respond to the points raised.
A debate in Westminster Hall does not have the power to change the law, and won’t end with the House of Commons deciding whether or not to have a second referendum. Moreover, the petition – which was opened on 25 May, well before the referendum – calls for the referendum rules to be changed. It is now too late for the rules to be changed retrospectively. It will be up to the Government to decide whether it wants to start the process of agreeing a new law for a second referendum.
The Petitions Committee is a cross-party group of MPs. It is independent from Government. You can find out more about the Committee on its website: http://www.parliament.uk/petitions-committee/role
Thanks,
The Petitions team
UK Government and Parliament
lostkiwi said:
don'tbesilly said:
Why do you think it will start a storm?
Something the government buried has been resurrected and looks to be taken seriously. email said:
It will be up to the Government to decide whether it wants to start the process of agreeing a new law for a second referendum.
This continued re-referendum stuff is bonkers. It would never end. Imagine if we had voted remain, 2 weeks time another EU crisis/scandal emerges, the UK gets stuffed with a 5 billion bill or something, then everybody would want to vote out again. It's asinine.
The decision is made. Move on.
May said 'Brexit is Brexit' I think this is one pledge they will have to stick to
As a side thought - Now we have a Female PM I do wonder if Merkel and May will develop sister love or staunch enemies?
I do hope May chops that yappy little Sturgeon down to size and muzzles her yelps for Indyref2
As a side thought - Now we have a Female PM I do wonder if Merkel and May will develop sister love or staunch enemies?
I do hope May chops that yappy little Sturgeon down to size and muzzles her yelps for Indyref2
lord trumpton said:
May said 'Brexit is Brexit' I think this is one pledge they will have to stick to
Having caught a news clip with her speech outside No 10 it was as clear as ever, from memory which may not result in a verbatim transcript there were mentions of rising to the challenge of Brexit, getting a good deal in negotiations and forging a strong positive role for Britain outside the EU. Perfect.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff