Hilary benn sacked

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cahami

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1,248 posts

207 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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The petulance among our MPs seems to be contagious.

Edited by cahami on Sunday 26th June 23:31

turbobloke

104,114 posts

261 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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Diana Johnson has resigned as a shadow foreign minister and Anna Turley as shadow minister for something. Toby Perkins has also said byebye as shadow armed forces minister.

Corbyn says he will only go as a result of losing a leadership contest and is planning to repopulate his shadow cabinet.

Einion Yrth

19,575 posts

245 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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turbobloke said:
Corbyn says he will only go as a result of losing a leadership contest and is planning to repopulate his shadow cabinet.
What with? He doesn't appear to be exactly drowning in quality candidates.

turbobloke

104,114 posts

261 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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Einion Yrth said:
turbobloke said:
Corbyn says he will only go as a result of losing a leadership contest and is planning to repopulate his shadow cabinet.
What with? He doesn't appear to be exactly drowning in quality candidates.
It's a fair swap when you replace dreck with dreck.

The biggest loss is Benn and that was self-inflicted if unavoidable.

With the others, are people asking "who?"...the names emerging this morning are neverwasbeens.

don4l

10,058 posts

177 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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///ajd said:
Corbyn should resign over the EU result though - for a remainer he was woeful.

The leavers can thank him largely for their win.
You must be the only person in the country who believes that he was a Remainer.


funkyrobot

18,789 posts

229 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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Indeed. Just who are these people?

I do know that they are a pathetic bunch. Conservatives in disarray, and they decide that now is the time for civil war. Idiots.

If anything, the referendum has shown them all for what they are. A bunch of self serving, completely out of touch morons.

paulrockliffe

15,736 posts

228 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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Einion Yrth said:
turbobloke said:
Corbyn says he will only go as a result of losing a leadership contest and is planning to repopulate his shadow cabinet.
What with? He doesn't appear to be exactly drowning in quality candidates.
Doesn't matter too much though, it's just shadow positions.

I think he should crack on, I think there's no mandate for a change from the membership. The PLP have just been shown to be even further out of touch with their voters and they need to either man-up and accept the views of their constituents, or they need to setup their own party.

Any challenge, he'll either win or there'll be a new leader further out of touch with their voters. If he loses, Labour will be decimated in 2020.

At the end of the day, while I think he's a massive dhead, he's the one with the mandate, the rest need to get on with it.

turbobloke

104,114 posts

261 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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paulrockliffe said:
Einion Yrth said:
turbobloke said:
Corbyn says he will only go as a result of losing a leadership contest and is planning to repopulate his shadow cabinet.
What with? He doesn't appear to be exactly drowning in quality candidates.
Doesn't matter too much though, it's just shadow positions.

I think he should crack on, I think there's no mandate for a change from the membership. The PLP have just been shown to be even further out of touch with their voters and they need to either man-up and accept the views of their constituents, or they need to setup their own party.

Any challenge, he'll either win or there'll be a new leader further out of touch with their voters. If he loses, Labour will be decimated in 2020.

At the end of the day, while I think he's a massive dhead, he's the one with the mandate, the rest need to get on with it.
He's also the one best placed to lose the 2020 general election, which would be good for the country (re-read his policy statements...ye gods) so I hope he stays.

Meanwhile Yvonne Fovargue, the Shadow Business Minister, has resigned and Steve Reed, deputy at DCLG, has gone too.

turbobloke

104,114 posts

261 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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don4l said:
///ajd said:
Corbyn should resign over the EU result though - for a remainer he was woeful.

The leavers can thank him largely for their win.
You must be the only person in the country who believes that he was a Remainer.
Probably true, there can't be many who thought Corbyn's u-turn was genuine. He was and is a Leaver in heart and mind.

Another thing needs correcting in ///ajd's post - the Leavers can thank the EU largely for their win. Corbyn isn't capable of being responsible for something so profound.

turbobloke

104,114 posts

261 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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turbobloke

104,114 posts

261 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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Apparently the New Statesman’s George Eaton is claiming that Lisa Nandy, the shadow energy secretary, will stand against Jeremy Corbyn for the Labour leadership.

Stalking Horse for Benn? Nay or Yay he's on the rocks.

Axionknight

8,505 posts

136 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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Who? Lol.

This is hilarious, Labour can't even present a united front after a Brexit vote and the likely outcome of a Tory power struggle.

What are they going to do to reclaim these Northern Labour heartlands out of interest? Install anothet pro EU leader? fking genius idea!

hornetrider

63,161 posts

206 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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I don't recognise half the names that have resigned from the shadow cabinet. And they are being replaced by even bigger nobodies laugh

What price a new splinter party being created?

technodup

7,585 posts

131 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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turbobloke said:
Apparently the New Statesman’s George Eaton is claiming that Lisa Nandy, the shadow energy secretary, will stand against Jeremy Corbyn for the Labour leadership.
She's about as mad a lefty as he is. Plus she looks about 15 so hardly credible as a PM (not that they anyone remotely credible in any sense), which would be the intention fairly quickly.

Benn's probably the most statesmanlike they have now. And he's not exactly going to excite anyone.

Axionknight

8,505 posts

136 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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hornetrider said:
I don't recognise half the names that have resigned from the shadow cabinet. And they are being replaced by even bigger nobodies laugh

What price a new splinter party being created?
Odds on I'd say. Almost a certainty.

RichB

51,692 posts

285 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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Axionknight said:
hornetrider said:
I don't recognise half the names that have resigned from the shadow cabinet. And they are being replaced by even bigger nobodies laugh What price a new splinter party being created?
Odds on I'd say. Almost a certainty.
What New, New Labour? Or perhaps New, Old Labour...

turbobloke

104,114 posts

261 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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RichB said:
Axionknight said:
hornetrider said:
I don't recognise half the names that have resigned from the shadow cabinet. And they are being replaced by even bigger nobodies laugh What price a new splinter party being created?
Odds on I'd say. Almost a certainty.
What New, New Labour? Or perhaps New, Old Labour...
Following the referendum result and what many Labour MPs were hoping for, how about mixing languages in Labor Nouvelle

It has to have the feminist feminine form somewhere...

Leithen

10,988 posts

268 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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turbobloke

104,114 posts

261 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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Leithen said:
Well it is a secret ballot after all sonar

It remains to be seen if he's got more teflon than Tony.

Leithen

10,988 posts

268 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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turbobloke said:
Leithen said:
Well it is a secret ballot after all sonar

It remains to be seen if he's got more teflon than Tony.
His genius is that 40 years of brillo pad use has long since removed any trace of Teflon, but he continues to use the same pan and the same scourer regardless.