Hilary benn sacked
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I mean the likes of Benn have been trying to get rid of Corbyn since he won the election to be leader - half of his lot, the most experienced MPs, refused to work in the shadow cabinet and then whinge from the sidelines when the lack of experience shows up in gaffes.
Trying to pin the referendum result on Corbyn is pathetic. Labour are so far disconnected from their old north/midlands "working class" vote that even the likes of Tony Blair at his peak would not have persuaded them to turn out and vote remain.
Corbyn's message was actually quite reasonable in his speech yesterday, I think he hit the nail on the head when talking about the reasons for the referendum loss and about losers from mass immigration and globalisation. The problem is he lacks the polish / presentation and leadership skills required to make his message cut through and all the media want to do is talk about him anyway; he outlined several things in that speech that are worthy of discussion but all the reporting was about the leadership coup.
However replacing him with a more aggressively pro-EU plastic Blairite politician is not the quick fix to their problems the PLP think it is.
Trying to pin the referendum result on Corbyn is pathetic. Labour are so far disconnected from their old north/midlands "working class" vote that even the likes of Tony Blair at his peak would not have persuaded them to turn out and vote remain.
Corbyn's message was actually quite reasonable in his speech yesterday, I think he hit the nail on the head when talking about the reasons for the referendum loss and about losers from mass immigration and globalisation. The problem is he lacks the polish / presentation and leadership skills required to make his message cut through and all the media want to do is talk about him anyway; he outlined several things in that speech that are worthy of discussion but all the reporting was about the leadership coup.
However replacing him with a more aggressively pro-EU plastic Blairite politician is not the quick fix to their problems the PLP think it is.
Gandahar said:
BBC reporting half the shadow cabinet about to resign.
Looks like they about to crucify JC.
See, you always have to look on the bright side of life.
Yep. Labour might have an electable leader. Looks like they about to crucify JC.
See, you always have to look on the bright side of life.
I reckon they stand a decent chance in 2020, seeing as the UK economy should be in a "challenging" state about then, with the Tories still in power.
zygalski said:
Yep. Labour might have an electable leader.
I reckon they stand a decent chance in 2020, seeing as the UK economy should be in a "challenging" state about then, with the Tories still in power.
I don't see how labour can choose a leader that is going to appeal to all those voters they lost in the north and the so called "latte luvvies"..... what the two groups believe in are so far apart it can only be achieved by making false promises to one side or the other. I reckon they stand a decent chance in 2020, seeing as the UK economy should be in a "challenging" state about then, with the Tories still in power.
VolvoT5 said:
zygalski said:
Yep. Labour might have an electable leader.
I reckon they stand a decent chance in 2020, seeing as the UK economy should be in a "challenging" state about then, with the Tories still in power.
I don't see how labour can choose a leader that is going to appeal to all those voters they lost in the north and the so called "latte luvvies"..... what the two groups believe in are so far apart it can only be achieved by making false promises to one side or the other. I reckon they stand a decent chance in 2020, seeing as the UK economy should be in a "challenging" state about then, with the Tories still in power.
VolvoT5 said:
zygalski said:
Yep. Labour might have an electable leader.
I reckon they stand a decent chance in 2020, seeing as the UK economy should be in a "challenging" state about then, with the Tories still in power.
I don't see how labour can choose a leader that is going to appeal to all those voters they lost in the north and the so called "latte luvvies"..... what the two groups believe in are so far apart it can only be achieved by making false promises to one side or the other. I reckon they stand a decent chance in 2020, seeing as the UK economy should be in a "challenging" state about then, with the Tories still in power.
A majority of people in the country disagree with the 'electable' position of both the Labour and Conservative parties.
Peter Hitchens sums it up in this interview: https://youtu.be/z0mj4Pbcw68
Edited by Esseesse on Sunday 26th June 08:50
zygalski said:
Gandahar said:
BBC reporting half the shadow cabinet about to resign.
Looks like they about to crucify JC.
See, you always have to look on the bright side of life.
Yep. Labour might have an electable leader. Looks like they about to crucify JC.
See, you always have to look on the bright side of life.
I reckon they stand a decent chance in 2020, seeing as the UK economy should be in a "challenging" state about then, with the Tories still in power.
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