How do we think EU negotiations will go?

[p1stonhead]

This is quite a sad graph if true.

[citizensm1th]

p1stonhead said:

Eddie Strohacker said:

ORD said:

True. But you have to be pretty dense to think that your already stty lot in life will be improved by crashing the economy (whether by Brexit or Labour or both).

Also true but you have to put yourself in their position. Vote Tory? Under 30? Not a chance.

In a nutshell.

I know people who wouldn’t ever vote Tory literally no matter what they did. And especially not considering the clusterfk we currently have running things!

it is all coming together rather nicely

[JagLover]

p1stonhead said:

This is quite a sad graph if true.

Automation has nothing to do with whether we are leaving the EU and will indeed have a massive impact on the Labour market.

[anonymous-user]

ORD said:

Slightly off-topic, but I dont think anyone believes May can win an election.

Not a fan, but yes, I think she could.

The budget today addressed most of the Labour ranting, considering the restrictions, Housing, NHS, Minimum wage Schools etc. (whch really pissed them off )

Unless we're talking about students crying about tuition fees or the brain washed vigilante momentum crowd, then yes lots of educated working people under 30 will vote sensibly

[Robertj21a]

digimeistter said:

ORD said:

Slightly off-topic, but I dont think anyone believes May can win an election.

Not a fan, but yes, I think she could.

The budget today addressed most of the Labour ranting, considering the restrictions, Housing, NHS, Minimum wage Schools etc. (whch really pissed them off )

Unless we're talking about students crying about tuition fees or the brain washed vigilante momentum crowd, then yes lots of educated working people under 30 will vote sensibly

Whoever leads the Tories into the next GE, it would be sensible for them to have a much greater presence on social media. I can't help thinking that Corbyn gained a lot through targeting those voters who probably use only Facebook etc for their news/views/contacts.

[p1stonhead]

Robertj21a said:

digimeistter said:

ORD said:

Slightly off-topic, but I dont think anyone believes May can win an election.

Not a fan, but yes, I think she could.

The budget today addressed most of the Labour ranting, considering the restrictions, Housing, NHS, Minimum wage Schools etc. (whch really pissed them off )

Unless we're talking about students crying about tuition fees or the brain washed vigilante momentum crowd, then yes lots of educated working people under 30 will vote sensibly

Whoever leads the Tories into the next GE, it would be sensible for them to have a much greater presence on social media. I can't help thinking that Corbyn gained a lot through targeting those voters who probably use only Facebook etc for their news/views/contacts.

Target them with what though? The tories better come up with anything that appeals to young voters and quick

[Crackie]

ORD said:

The last GE tells you that the Tories are basically fked unless old people turn out well. The collapse of the Tory vote in under-40s is astonishing.

The demographic 'old people', what age does it start at ?

[gooner1]

p1stonhead said:

In a nutshell.

I know people who wouldn’t ever vote Tory literally no matter what they did. And especially not considering the clusterfk we currently have running things!

Of course, the reverse is also true re voting Labour

[p1stonhead]

gooner1 said:

p1stonhead said:

In a nutshell.

I know people who wouldn’t ever vote Tory literally no matter what they did. And especially not considering the clusterfk we currently have running things!

Of course, the reverse is also true re voting Labour

Of course, but time is on the side of the younger voters.

[Jockman]

p1stonhead said:

Of course, but time is on the side of the younger voters.

How so? Do they remain young in perpetuity?

An ageing population and, as the tables show, elderly means 47+.

[anonymous-user]

p1stonhead said:

Robertj21a said:

digimeistter said:

ORD said:

Slightly off-topic, but I dont think anyone believes May can win an election.

Not a fan, but yes, I think she could.

The budget today addressed most of the Labour ranting, considering the restrictions, Housing, NHS, Minimum wage Schools etc. (whch really pissed them off )

Unless we're talking about students crying about tuition fees or the brain washed vigilante momentum crowd, then yes lots of educated working people under 30 will vote sensibly

Whoever leads the Tories into the next GE, it would be sensible for them to have a much greater presence on social media. I can't help thinking that Corbyn gained a lot through targeting those voters who probably use only Facebook etc for their news/views/contacts.

Target them with what though? The tories better come up with anything that appeals to young voters and quick

Like promise them free stuff the Country can't afford?

[ORD]

I am not so concerned about so many 20 year olds voting Labour. It worries me that they have such a hold on people in their 30s. Proper grown ups still impressed by Corbyn. No hopers.

[anonymous-user]

Jockman said:

How so? Do they remain young in perpetuity?

An ageing population and, as the tables show, elderly means 47+.

I am 48 and I can definitely agree that I feel elderly today.

[anonymous-user]

Robertj21a said:

Whoever leads the Tories into the next GE, it would be sensible for them to have a much greater presence on social media. I can't help thinking that Corbyn gained a lot through targeting those voters who probably use only Facebook etc for their news/views/contacts.

Of course, momentum has rooms full of disenfranchised angry young people doing nothing but this, and it works sadly

[Eddie Strohacker]

digimeistter said:

Like promise them free stuff the Country can't afford?

George Osborne imposed austerity to eliminate the budget deficit by 2015. Now it's 2031. Grwoth is forecast to be <2% in every year not least because of Brexit. At what point do you stop & think parroting this mantra about free stuff is exactly that. A mantra, A political choice to withhold investment in the country for it's future? So bored of hearing about free stuff trotted out mindlessly.

[Jockman]

desolate said:

Jockman said:

How so? Do they remain young in perpetuity?

An ageing population and, as the tables show, elderly means 47+.

I am 48 and I can definitely agree that I feel elderly today.

IIRC it was also the tipping age for Brexit Voters being classed as elderly.

I'm 50 now and due to a unique exercise regime I feel as fit now as I did at 49 years and 11 months

[anonymous-user]

Eddie Strohacker said:

George Osborne imposed austerity to eliminate the budget deficit by 2015. Now it's 2031. Grwoth is forecast to be <2% in every year not least because of Brexit. At what point do you stop & think parroting this mantra about free stuff is exactly that. A mantra, A political choice to withhold investment in the country for it's future? So bored of hearing about free stuff trotted out mindlessly.

You are beyond parody, you do know other people can see what you type?

[johnxjsc1985]

Jockman said:

I'm 50 now and due to a unique exercise regime I feel as fit now as I did at 49 years and 11 months

Come on you cant get away with this statement without letting us into your secret.

[Sway]

Eddie Strohacker said:

digimeistter said:

Like promise them free stuff the Country can't afford?

George Osborne imposed austerity to eliminate the budget deficit by 2015. Now it's 2031. Grwoth is forecast to be <2% in every year not least because of Brexit. At what point do you stop & think parroting this mantra about free stuff is exactly that. A mantra, A political choice to withhold investment in the country for it's future? So bored of hearing about free stuff trotted out mindlessly.

I struggle to see where any of the things Corbyn was suggesting were 'investments' were anything more than increased salaries and heads in public departments... Certainly I couldn't see anything that you would expect a return on.

[Jockman]

johnxjsc1985 said:

Jockman said:

I'm 50 now and due to a unique exercise regime I feel as fit now as I did at 49 years and 11 months

Come on you cant get away with this statement without letting us into your secret.

I walk 500 miles.......then......