How do we think EU negotiations will go?
Discussion
///ajd said:
My answer is obvious - no we don’t just leave with no deal, that would be stupid and reckless and damaging to the interests of all parties. We should reversexit, best solution by far.
What is your answer? Do you even have one?
Yet you've (apparently) already accepted that we are leaving. So that solution is already a non-starter.What is your answer? Do you even have one?
sidicks said:
///ajd said:
My answer is obvious - no we don’t just leave with no deal, that would be stupid and reckless and damaging to the interests of all parties. We should reversexit, best solution by far.
What is your answer? Do you even have one?
Yet you've (apparently) already accepted that we are leaving. So that solution is already a non-starter.What is your answer? Do you even have one?
No answer Robert?
Surely if you voted leave you have thought through answers to the issues it creates?
Edited by ///ajd on Saturday 25th November 13:44
Robertj21a said:
Simple question on the difficult Ireland issue.
I can see that, despite numerous meetings, proposals, rants and denials, we get to March 2019 and the UK and EU simply cannot agree any solution that is acceptable to both parties........
Do we just leave the EU anyway ?
As far as anyone can tell then, yes that is what happens unless the UK requests an extension and all 27 EU members agree to it.I can see that, despite numerous meetings, proposals, rants and denials, we get to March 2019 and the UK and EU simply cannot agree any solution that is acceptable to both parties........
Do we just leave the EU anyway ?
///ajd said:
sidicks said:
///ajd said:
My answer is obvious - no we don’t just leave with no deal, that would be stupid and reckless and damaging to the interests of all parties. We should reversexit, best solution by far.
What is your answer? Do you even have one?
Yet you've (apparently) already accepted that we are leaving. So that solution is already a non-starter.What is your answer? Do you even have one?
No answer Robert?
Surely if you voted leave you have thought through answers to the issues it creates?
Edited by ///ajd on Saturday 25th November 13:44
Yes, I have an answer - we comply with the Referendum vote and leave, as planned.
///ajd said:
So we leave no matter what in Mar 19 with no deal for Eire, trade or a transition.
That is your plan/solution.
Noted.
other than remain which is not going to happen why not enlighten us as to how to solve the problems other than lie down and let Juncker and his mob walk all over us.That is your plan/solution.
Noted.
///ajd said:
Robertj21a said:
Yes, I have an answer - we comply with the Referendum vote and leave, as planned.
So we leave no matter what in Mar 19 with no deal for Eire, trade or a transition. That is your plan/solution.
Noted.
johnxjsc1985 said:
other than remain which is not going to happen why not enlighten us as to how to solve the problems other than lie down and let Juncker and his mob walk all over us.
The answer is stay in the CU. You just aren't ready to accept that yet.
I keep providing a very compelling answer to the stupid vote.
If you want to carry on with it, best YOU come up with answers to keep this madness on the rails.
I can't think of a good answer to the Eire border issue that isn't at least staying in the CU as the border alternatives are terrible and not a price worth paying.
As such remain is the best answer. Its the best thing for the country, the EU and the world. By a country mile. And that's a red white and blue patriotic British country mile with spitfires and everything.
///ajd said:
Robertj21a said:
Yes, I have an answer - we comply with the Referendum vote and leave, as planned.
So we leave no matter what in Mar 19 with no deal for Eire, trade or a transition. That is your plan/solution.
Noted.
None of us have any leverage as to how we leave .
We had a vote stay/leave and that was the only input required from us , i'm sure Tusk/Davis aren't contacting ajd to check any of there negotiations because he/we don't matter .
egor110 said:
Does it really matter ?
None of us have any leverage as to how we leave .
We had a vote stay/leave and that was the only input required from us , i'm sure Tusk/Davis aren't contacting ajd to check any of there negotiations because he/we don't matter .
And yet, based on his claims, you'd think he had inside knowledge of the negotiations!None of us have any leverage as to how we leave .
We had a vote stay/leave and that was the only input required from us , i'm sure Tusk/Davis aren't contacting ajd to check any of there negotiations because he/we don't matter .
egor110 said:
Does it really matter ?
None of us have any leverage as to how we leave .
We had a vote stay/leave and that was the only input required from us , i'm sure Tusk/Davis aren't contacting ajd to check any of there negotiations because he/we don't matter .
If none of it matters, why did you bother voting?None of us have any leverage as to how we leave .
We had a vote stay/leave and that was the only input required from us , i'm sure Tusk/Davis aren't contacting ajd to check any of there negotiations because he/we don't matter .
Why are you happy / don't care if there is a bad solution for NI/Eire?
Take responsibility and deliver or retreat/back down as not able to deliver.
sidicks said:
///ajd said:
If none of it matters, why did you bother voting?
Why are you happy / don't care if there is a bad solution for NI/Eire?
Take responsibility and deliver or retreat/back down as not able to deliver.
Why do you think the voters have to deliver anything?Why are you happy / don't care if there is a bad solution for NI/Eire?
Take responsibility and deliver or retreat/back down as not able to deliver.
But if no one has answers, then they can't moan if the lack of answers is held up as a reason to reflect on the decision.
sidicks said:
///ajd said:
If none of it matters, why did you bother voting?
Why are you happy / don't care if there is a bad solution for NI/Eire?
Take responsibility and deliver or retreat/back down as not able to deliver.
Why do you think the voters have to deliver anything?Why are you happy / don't care if there is a bad solution for NI/Eire?
Take responsibility and deliver or retreat/back down as not able to deliver.
How much longer have we all got to play on this merry-go-round?
///ajd said:
They don't have to.
And yet you asked him to 'take responsibility and deliver' !!///ajd said:
But if no one has answers, then they can't moan if the lack of answers is held up as a reason to reflect on the decision.
Just because he doesn't have the answer, doesn't mean that there is no answer. HTHYou can reflect all you like, it won't change anything!
///ajd said:
The answer is stay in the CU.
You just aren't ready to accept that yet.
I keep providing a very compelling answer to the stupid vote.
If you want to carry on with it, best YOU come up with answers to keep this madness on the rails.
I can't think of a good answer to the Eire border issue that isn't at least staying in the CU as the border alternatives are terrible and not a price worth paying.
As such remain is the best answer. Its the best thing for the country, the EU and the world. By a country mile. And that's a red white and blue patriotic British country mile with spitfires and everything.
Which English lessons did you miss, or was it just reading ?You just aren't ready to accept that yet.
I keep providing a very compelling answer to the stupid vote.
If you want to carry on with it, best YOU come up with answers to keep this madness on the rails.
I can't think of a good answer to the Eire border issue that isn't at least staying in the CU as the border alternatives are terrible and not a price worth paying.
As such remain is the best answer. Its the best thing for the country, the EU and the world. By a country mile. And that's a red white and blue patriotic British country mile with spitfires and everything.
We voted to LEAVE. Why do you keep on about remaining ? Presumably that's your only solution - one that's not available !
///ajd said:
I keep providing a very compelling answer to the stupid vote.
You're entitled to an opinion ///ajd.........other people may disagree regarding "compelling" and "stupid"///ajd said:
remain is the best answer for the EU By a country mile.
By George I think he's got it..........Robertj21a said:
///ajd said:
The answer is stay in the CU.
You just aren't ready to accept that yet.
I keep providing a very compelling answer to the stupid vote.
If you want to carry on with it, best YOU come up with answers to keep this madness on the rails.
I can't think of a good answer to the Eire border issue that isn't at least staying in the CU as the border alternatives are terrible and not a price worth paying.
As such remain is the best answer. Its the best thing for the country, the EU and the world. By a country mile. And that's a red white and blue patriotic British country mile with spitfires and everything.
Which English lessons did you miss, or was it just reading ?You just aren't ready to accept that yet.
I keep providing a very compelling answer to the stupid vote.
If you want to carry on with it, best YOU come up with answers to keep this madness on the rails.
I can't think of a good answer to the Eire border issue that isn't at least staying in the CU as the border alternatives are terrible and not a price worth paying.
As such remain is the best answer. Its the best thing for the country, the EU and the world. By a country mile. And that's a red white and blue patriotic British country mile with spitfires and everything.
We voted to LEAVE. Why do you keep on about remaining ? Presumably that's your only solution - one that's not available !
Leave - stay in CU / some form of SM to safe guard NI/Eire issue
Your answer appears to be shout LEAVE.
One wonders if these compelling arguments should have been deployed before the vote.
If you don’t have an answer that doesn’t fck the country, then I don’t see why your vote should be given too much respect. Sounds like yours was just an angry shouty protest vote if you can’t provide real world justified solutions.
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