Negotiators

[catso]

ATG said:

then it'll be UK POLITICIANS who impose tariffs and import quotas on German cars

I'm sure, given the opportunity, they will do so.

[V8RX7]

Forgive me if this is an over simplification but when I wanted a job I applied as a Buyer for a House Builder, the Job Agency "lost" my CV but as I explained to the Interviewer:

It's simple, I know what I want, I know what we usually pay, whatever they offer I compare to the previous job and try to knock a bit off.

Ah he said, but what about Labour contracts ? I told him I'll simply use the last one and alter it to suit.

Without any relevant experience I got the job and kept it until I got bored.


Trade Negotiation is the same - get the solicitors to alter the last one - get the other side squiffy and take pictures of them with ladies of dubious reputation.

Where do I sign ?

[Puggit]

Tony Blair appears to be positioning himself for a negotiation role.

God helps us...

EU Negotiatior: ...and we want €10Bn extra a year.
Blair: Certainly, and Spain can have Gibraltar too

[jjlynn27]

Puggit said:

Tony Blair appears to be positioning himself for a negotiation role.

God helps us...

EU Negotiatior: ...and we want €10Bn extra a year.
Blair: Certainly, and Spain can have Gibraltar too

I'm fairly dispassionate about politicians. Pretty much all of them. I don't wish him any harm or anything like that, I'd like him to disappear somewhere and write memoirs, quietly if at all possible.

[EnglishTony]

Needs to be someone the general public can happily crucify when they don't get what they thought they were getting.

Farage or Johnson. Possibly Roy Hodgson.

[eharding]

EnglishTony said:

Needs to be someone the general public can happily crucify when they don't get what they thought they were getting.

Farage or Johnson. Possibly Roy Hodgson.

Think positive - welcome to 'The Trade Negotiator's Apprentice', with Sir Alan Sugar.

Solid gold TV. We can watch the Brexit negotiations undertaken by a team of lovable - and hateable - unqualified munchkins each week, and each week Alan can fire the most visibly hapless herbert.

We could make zillions on the worldwide distribution rights. Who needs a free trade zone?

[RobDickinson]

Don said:

New Zealand would consider offering the UK a loan of its best trade negotiators if this was of assistance.

Thanks, Guys, we might need 'em yet.

If its the same shower of s who negotiated our TPPA deal you dont want them.

[AJS-]

Don said:

But who I want negotiating for me is the nastiest, meanest, son of a bh, psychopathic, steely-eyed the Conservative Party can muster. The sort that can smile nicely whilst twisting the knife. It's going to take that and then some.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/30/tony-blair-hints-at-role-as-brexit-negotiator-in-eu-talks-that-w/

Seems to fit the bill.


Not sure why you want a psycho leading any negotiations though?

[jazzybee]

I would have thought John Redwood would be the sort of person who would finally find his role. Probably one of the main people that has driven the Brexit agenda over the past 20 years in the back ground.... Can imagine him being a slippery negotiator. Personally find him a pretty distasteful character - but would understand why he may be good for the role.

[Don]

Fittster said:

s2art said:

Fittster said:

Can any negotiation take place until we have left the EU (which could be a long way off)?

Firstly we have to negotiate for up to two years before exit. But I guess we can have talks with anyone else in parallel if we have the resources, why not?

Two years after article 50. As there's no date for article 50, which maybe years away itself, you can't really negotiate. "We'd like to sell you financial services and won't put tariffs on you sheep, however we have no idea when we can start to do that".

So you can't really sort out any deals until you have some time scales which you aren't going to get until after the article 50 button has been pushed, which has a lot of issues to sort out first.

The EU is desperate to get us to "push the button" on Article 50 to end the uncertainty.

So that's a negotiating lever. If I was a negotiator right now I think I might have a cup of coffee. And then take a couple of weeks vacation. And then have another cup of coffee...

[iphonedyou]

Don said:

The EU is desperate to get us to "push the button" on Article 50 to end the uncertainty.

So that's a negotiating lever. If I was a negotiator right now I think I might have a cup of coffee. And then take a couple of weeks vacation. And then have another cup of coffee...

The age old 'ruin any remaining goodwill before you go in; that'll soften them up' technique.

Timeless. Or it useless?

[Camoradi]

I'll make a prediction now. The deal will be concluded two years to the day after we invoke Article 50, in a marathon session lasting 14 hours which ends at 3:20am. The exhausted negotiators will emerge bleary eyed into the press conference amid much back slapping and weary smiles.

It's the EU way!

[Dog Star]

Hereward said:

Germany currently sells over 800,000 cars a year to the UK. I think we will be in a fairly strong position at the negotiating table.

I've just got a new E class for 3 years. It occurs to me that I'll be more likely to be getting a Mustang in 2019. If I've got a job.

[Don]

Teflon Tony is up for it. Just the sort of evil bd we need.

[jjlynn27]

Hereward said:

Germany currently sells over 800,000 cars a year to the UK. I think we will be in a fairly strong position at the negotiating table.

I don't understand this position at all. Yes, they do sell a lot of cars here. But those cars need to be paid for. In the meantime, still full member until negotiations after invoking A50 is complete. ONLY then we can start negotiations on access to single market, as a 'third country' (EU parlance for non-memmber). During negotiations for access to single market, we revert to WTO.

I'm trying to see how this puts us in a good negotiating position.

[Blue62]

Don said:

The EU is desperate to get us to "push the button" on Article 50 to end the uncertainty.

So that's a negotiating lever. If I was a negotiator right now I think I might have a cup of coffee. And then take a couple of weeks vacation. And then have another cup of coffee...

I'm not so sure that they are desperate Don, my take is that it's all part of the game to show strength and confidence to their own electorate at this troubled time. I don't think it's in anyone's interests to rush things through, but the uncertainty in the interim will hurt all European states. I do wish people would stop banging on about German cars though, it was one of the planks of the Leave manifesto (in which most of the 'facts' have all but been discredited now) but it really won't play any sort of role in negotiations and if that is our best bargaining chip I fear even more for my kids future.

[Puggit]

Don said:

Teflon Tony is up for it. Just the sort of evil bd we need.

The man who negotiated away a large chunk of our EU rebate in exchange for thin air? No thanks!

[Don]

Puggit said:

Don said:

Teflon Tony is up for it. Just the sort of evil bd we need.

The man who negotiated away a large chunk of our EU rebate in exchange for thin air? No thanks!

If MI6 takes Cherie hostage he could be made to get us a better deal.

[V8RX7]

Don said:

Puggit said:

Don said:

Teflon Tony is up for it. Just the sort of evil bd we need.

The man who negotiated away a large chunk of our EU rebate in exchange for thin air? No thanks!

If MI6 takes Cherie hostage he could be made to get us a better deal.

On the threat of bringing her back ?

[Axionknight]