Farage stands down as UKIP leader
Discussion
don4l said:
What a way to go!
He has achieved a lifetime's ambition. No other politician this century has come close.
What did Cameron, Clegg or Milliband ever achieve?
Well done, Nigel. I salute you.
Farewell... and thank you.
You come across very oddly. Maybe it's the intensity with which you proselytise. Maybe it's the fact you proselytise at all.He has achieved a lifetime's ambition. No other politician this century has come close.
What did Cameron, Clegg or Milliband ever achieve?
Well done, Nigel. I salute you.
Farewell... and thank you.
Laurel Green said:
don4l said:
What a way to go!
He has achieved a lifetime's ambition. No other politician this century has come close.
What did Cameron, Clegg or Milliband ever achieve?
Well done, Nigel. I salute you.
Farewell... and thank you.
+ another. He has achieved a lifetime's ambition. No other politician this century has come close.
What did Cameron, Clegg or Milliband ever achieve?
Well done, Nigel. I salute you.
Farewell... and thank you.
As much as I admire his tenacity, this just makes me feel he's weasled out of a tricky situation he was never expecting, knowing it was a campaign built on thin (or hot) air.
don4l said:
What a way to go!
He has achieved a lifetime's ambition. No other politician this century has come close.
What did Cameron, Clegg or Milliband ever achieve?
Well done, Nigel. I salute you.
Farewell... and thank you.
I don't think so. Until day one of non-EU membership comes around he hasn't achieved anything apart from helping to create a huge mess and a political vacuum. To me, standing down today is akin to George W standing on the aircraft carrier in 2003 with Mission Accomplished all around him. He has achieved a lifetime's ambition. No other politician this century has come close.
What did Cameron, Clegg or Milliband ever achieve?
Well done, Nigel. I salute you.
Farewell... and thank you.
Sam All said:
Greg66 said:
He's most likely going to move to Germany to enjoy some time with his German wife.
He lives in the UK, with his wife. What's your point?So, just a load of cobblers from Greg, really.
ash73 said:
I think Farage has done an incredible job challenging the establishment and getting us out of the EU; he's created quite a legacy for himself. Without him UKIP are dead in the water once article 50 is invoked.
I know he wants his life back, but I wonder whether he should stand as an independent in the next election; British politics needs more people like him, regardless of whether you agree with his views.
I agree. He has to be one of the most important and successfull politicians since the war. As for UKIP, will it realign itself to represent the working class, because the Labour party does not, we shall see. All I'm really interested in, is the initiation of article 50. I know he wants his life back, but I wonder whether he should stand as an independent in the next election; British politics needs more people like him, regardless of whether you agree with his views.
craigjm said:
I don't think so. Until day one of non-EU membership comes around he hasn't achieved anything apart from helping to create a huge mess and a political vacuum. To me, standing down today is akin to George W standing on the aircraft carrier in 2003 with Mission Accomplished all around him.
I don't disagree.However, I do understand.
I know another prominent Leave campaigner, and the work that he has put in has been phenomenal. For months he has been touring the country, giving two or three talks a day. He has been working from dawn to midnight.
I suspect that Nigel is utterly exhausted, both physically and mentally.
craigjm said:
I don't think so. Until day one of non-EU membership comes around he hasn't achieved anything apart from helping to create a huge mess and a political vacuum. To me, standing down today is akin to George W standing on the aircraft carrier in 2003 with Mission Accomplished all around him.
Not really because George was President of the world superpower. Farage is leader of a pressure group/political party with barely any representation in our institutions that steer the direction the UK heads in. A 'political vacuum' is not his fault or problem, it's the fault of the main parties being disconnected from reality.Hosenbugler said:
ash73 said:
I think Farage has done an incredible job challenging the establishment and getting us out of the EU; he's created quite a legacy for himself. Without him UKIP are dead in the water once article 50 is invoked.
I know he wants his life back, but I wonder whether he should stand as an independent in the next election; British politics needs more people like him, regardless of whether you agree with his views.
I agree. He has to be one of the most important and successfull politicians since the war. As for UKIP, will it realign itself to represent the working class, because the Labour party does not, we shall see. All I'm really interested in, is the initiation of article 50. I know he wants his life back, but I wonder whether he should stand as an independent in the next election; British politics needs more people like him, regardless of whether you agree with his views.
He rarely attended the EU votes. He didn't represent his constituency (South East) who elected him to look after their interests in Europe (SE were largely pro-remain).
He pursued his own political agenda irrespective of what he was paid to do. He spectacularly failed to follow democracy in respecting his constituency's wishes.
That's not successful - that's ego.
Edited by lostkiwi on Monday 4th July 11:15
I said on here after the referendum he should go. Ukip will disappear and the utterly useless Labour party must be delighted. They can go back to being the crap party they were, because all those northern Brexit towns ain't going to be voting Tory, but must have seen Ukip eating into their old vote.
Like him or loathe him, he stood for what he wanted and campaigned for it by getting the vote. I have far more respect for that than the Russell Brand/ Eddie Izzard/ Billy Bragg types who dip a toe into a couple of days a years and tell people how to vote and expect to get their way.
Like him or loathe him, he stood for what he wanted and campaigned for it by getting the vote. I have far more respect for that than the Russell Brand/ Eddie Izzard/ Billy Bragg types who dip a toe into a couple of days a years and tell people how to vote and expect to get their way.
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