Farage stands down as UKIP leader
Discussion
Ghibli said:
What he did say while discussing the 350m
Is , "what people need is Schools,Hospitals and Gp's"
He didnt say spent on the NHS, although Hospitals and Gp's would count as the NHS IMO. Unless he wants to see the money spent in the private sector.
And the FACT he mentioned schools clearly shows he would like any money saved by exiting the EU to be spent in numerous areas not just hospitals or NHS for that matter. This doesn't support the required narrative for Remainers so gets twisted or manipulated....anyone with half a brain (generally older people) can see this.Is , "what people need is Schools,Hospitals and Gp's"
He didnt say spent on the NHS, although Hospitals and Gp's would count as the NHS IMO. Unless he wants to see the money spent in the private sector.
Edited by Ghibli on Friday 26th August 09:57
Edited by Ghibli on Friday 26th August 09:58
This is not the case for the official Leave campaign (NF not required) or Boris and his bus yet somehow they seem to be allowed off the hook.
alfie2244 said:
This doesn't support the required narrative for Remainers so gets twisted or manipulated.
No.What supports their narrative is that (as above) he said that it costs £55m a day.
Which is a lie.
Trying to weasel out of it with the NHS red herring is pathetic.
And the Boris Bus is even worse - and certainly isn't let off the hook.
walm said:
alfie2244 said:
This doesn't support the required narrative for Remainers so gets twisted or manipulated.
No.What supports their narrative is that (as above) he said that it costs £55m a day.
Which is a lie.
Trying to weasel out of it with the NHS red herring is pathetic.
And the Boris Bus is even worse - and certainly isn't let off the hook.
The bus said " We send the EU £350million p/w - Lets fund our NHS instead - vote leave - lets take back control.
Have a listen to this:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-r...
Edited by alfie2244 on Friday 26th August 10:43
walm said:
alfie2244 said:
Oh I see........Boris and the official Leave team are the worse liars.
Not sure who's worse.Plenty of BS from Remainers too.
I am just objecting to people conveniently ignoring one particular individual's lies like it never happened.
Only checked back 30 days but can't see any of your posts complaining about their lies....or do Farage's carry more weight?
Considering most involved, on both sides,of the referendum are still involved in UK politics and are likely to be post Brexit..........would it not be wiser to focus on their lies rather than somebody who appears to be going off on a world tour loudly banging his anti establishment drum?
walm said:
In a thread about Farage - yes.
If we were talking about Boris then I would be talking about his lies.
I will leave the privilege of being the OP in a "Boris is a liar thread" to you..........after all, unlike Farage in the USA, he is still involved in UK politics and will be post Brexit.If we were talking about Boris then I would be talking about his lies.
alfie2244 said:
Ghibli said:
What he did say while discussing the 350m
Is , "what people need is Schools,Hospitals and Gp's"
He didnt say spent on the NHS, although Hospitals and Gp's would count as the NHS IMO. Unless he wants to see the money spent in the private sector.
And the FACT he mentioned schools clearly shows he would like any money saved by exiting the EU to be spent in numerous areas not just hospitals or NHS for that matter. This doesn't support the required narrative for Remainers so gets twisted or manipulated....anyone with half a brain (generally older people) can see this.Is , "what people need is Schools,Hospitals and Gp's"
He didnt say spent on the NHS, although Hospitals and Gp's would count as the NHS IMO. Unless he wants to see the money spent in the private sector.
Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 26th August 09:57
Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 26th August 09:58
This is not the case for the official Leave campaign (NF not required) or Boris and his bus yet somehow they seem to be allowed off the hook.
The golden question is how much will actually be saved by leaving the EU. If you have a link to these figures I am more than happy to look.
Ghibli said:
I am only quoting what he said and yes he does mention schools.
The golden question is how much will actually be saved by leaving the EU. If you have a link to these figures I am more than happy to look.
Not a golden question for me..there is a lot more to all things EU / life than money.The golden question is how much will actually be saved by leaving the EU. If you have a link to these figures I am more than happy to look.
I personally don't care how much the saving is, it will be a saving and the EU won't be taking their cut of our taxes (even illegal sex and drugs FFS) in fact I would be happy to extradite ourselves from the failing project (ponzi) that is trying to form a USEU even if it meant we didn't save money at all.
Without going through the whole details of monies we pay and why, could you please explain the logic in just one example: The monthly commute to Strasbourg costing £millions, not just the travel but infrastructure, staffing costs etc
Edited by alfie2244 on Friday 26th August 11:44
It's amazing what gets ignored when it suits and what gets an exaggerated interest. The practice serves to ridicule the value of otherwise respected reputations and coincidentally enhances the standing of the very individual being traduced. In the link above Farage is pointedly asked "Would you spend the money saved by leaving the EU on the NHS"? (referring to the money on the side of the bus). He replies "No I wouldn't". There's no hedging, no prevarication, no hesitation or double intention. You can't have it plainer than that. Is there anyone at all who misunderstands plain, direct English? There does seem to be plenty who do, but ignore it to lie continually. To deliberately misrepresent is to lie.
Edited by Thorodin on Friday 26th August 11:49
alfie2244 said:
Not a golden question for me..there is a lot more to all things EU / life than money.
I personally don't care how much the saving is, it will be a saving and the EU won't be taking their cut of our taxes (even illegal sex and drugs FFS) in fact I would be happy to extradite ourselves from the failing project (ponzi) that is trying to form a USEA even if it meant we didn't save money at all.
Without going through the whole details of monies we pay and why, could you please explain the logic in just one example: The monthly commute to Strasbourg costing £millions, not just the travel but infrastructure, staffing costs etc
Fair enough,I personally don't care how much the saving is, it will be a saving and the EU won't be taking their cut of our taxes (even illegal sex and drugs FFS) in fact I would be happy to extradite ourselves from the failing project (ponzi) that is trying to form a USEA even if it meant we didn't save money at all.
Without going through the whole details of monies we pay and why, could you please explain the logic in just one example: The monthly commute to Strasbourg costing £millions, not just the travel but infrastructure, staffing costs etc
As far as I am aware there are no figures, hopefully one of the brexit boys is working on it.
The following was one of the suggestions to pay for our trade deals, it makes me wonder why our aid money isn't going to the NHS and schools.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/30/britain...
Ghibli said:
alfie2244 said:
Not a golden question for me..there is a lot more to all things EU / life than money.
I personally don't care how much the saving is, it will be a saving and the EU won't be taking their cut of our taxes (even illegal sex and drugs FFS) in fact I would be happy to extradite ourselves from the failing project (ponzi) that is trying to form a USEA even if it meant we didn't save money at all.
Without going through the whole details of monies we pay and why, could you please explain the logic in just one example: The monthly commute to Strasbourg costing £millions, not just the travel but infrastructure, staffing costs etc
Fair enough,I personally don't care how much the saving is, it will be a saving and the EU won't be taking their cut of our taxes (even illegal sex and drugs FFS) in fact I would be happy to extradite ourselves from the failing project (ponzi) that is trying to form a USEA even if it meant we didn't save money at all.
Without going through the whole details of monies we pay and why, could you please explain the logic in just one example: The monthly commute to Strasbourg costing £millions, not just the travel but infrastructure, staffing costs etc
As far as I am aware there are no figures, hopefully one of the brexit boys is working on it.
The following was one of the suggestions to pay for our trade deals, it makes me wonder why our aid money isn't going to the NHS and schools.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/30/britain...
Well when we Brexit we will be able to choose where we send our money.
alfie2244 said:
Strasbourg - No comment?
Well when we Brexit we will be able to choose where we send our money.
I don't need to comment on Strasbourg, I am asking how much our expenses will be when we leave. Well when we Brexit we will be able to choose where we send our money.
I haven't seen the figures and I am guessing you haven't either. The only way of knowing if it is cost effective is when we see the figures.
Ghibli said:
alfie2244 said:
Strasbourg - No comment?
Well when we Brexit we will be able to choose where we send our money.
I don't need to comment on Strasbourg, I am asking how much our expenses will be when we leave. Well when we Brexit we will be able to choose where we send our money.
I haven't seen the figures and I am guessing you haven't either. The only way of knowing if it is cost effective is when we see the figures.
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