US Police Shoot Unarmed Man With His Hands Up

US Police Shoot Unarmed Man With His Hands Up

Author
Discussion

croyde

22,933 posts

230 months

Thursday 21st July 2016
quotequote all
Tango13 said:
I think I know why the police opened fire...

Now we have already established that the police in the US discriminate against the smarter applicants so what we are dealing with are... Well... Morons...

Now the victim is a therapist right? Taking into account the IQ of the average US plod being about the same as an NCP attendant, ie about 0.5

I'd wager the US plod thought the therapist was identifing himself as the rapist and opened fire!

For the hard of thinking this is a tongue in cheek post and is not to be taken in the slightest bit seriously!!!
Have a rofl

Made me laugh and I'm in a foul mood. Ta.

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

231 months

Thursday 21st July 2016
quotequote all
rxtx said:
Jimbeaux said:
Guys, there are tens of thousands of cops here. Hundreds of thousands of daily interactions. Do you not realize that the action of a miniscule few idiots/bad cops are being highlighted under the media mantra of "if it bleeds it leads"? Come on, put the numbers into perspective, honestly.
I'm sure we all know this, what's reported is what's reported, and what isn't reported we don't know about. Nobody reports all the great things they do, or they aren't publicised as much, particularly abroad, but there do seem to be rather a lot of unnecessary shootings.
One is too many; however, using pure percentages to overall interactions, what constitutes "alot"?

Pesty

42,655 posts

256 months

Thursday 21st July 2016
quotequote all
wc98 said:
or the morgue when they bleed out or arrest due to lack of immediate medical care.
Or stand around looking for your spent shell casings before finally telling somebody you shot the guy in the car crash for absolutely no reason.


rxtx

6,016 posts

210 months

Thursday 21st July 2016
quotequote all
Jimbeaux said:
One is too many; however, using pure percentages to overall interactions, what constitutes "alot"?
I've read of too many people being shot by police for no reason over the past couple of weeks. That's "a lot" to me.

You don't have to jump on every thread that mentions the US you know, you aren't their spokesperson and we aren't stupid enough to think it's every American/policeman/woman.

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

198 months

Thursday 21st July 2016
quotequote all
FFS this is ridiculous.

they've even stopped trying to make up plausible excuses

superkartracer

Original Poster:

8,959 posts

222 months

Thursday 21st July 2016
quotequote all
Jimbeaux said:
Guys, there are tens of thousands of cops here. Hundreds of thousands of daily interactions. Do you not realize that the action of a miniscule few idiots/bad cops are being highlighted under the media mantra of "if it bleeds it leads"? Come on, put the numbers into perspective, honestly.
Load of cobblers , you have lots of police stating there are serious issues ( give that a whirl - http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p040v890 ) for a start.

FredClogs

14,041 posts

161 months

Thursday 21st July 2016
quotequote all
I'm watching the doc about the cop watchers in new York, "NYPD, Biggest Gang In New York?" It's on the iPlayer, pretty shocking.

4x4Tyke

6,506 posts

132 months

Thursday 21st July 2016
quotequote all
La Liga said:
MikeGTi said:
Vandenberg said:
Anyone know how Risk assessment is taught to UK BiB and the Armed forces?
I can't speak for BiB, but in the Army it very much revolves around "imminent risk to life", a bit of judgemental training, and a sprinkling of experience.
Fundamentally around this model for the police: https://www.app.college.police.uk/app-content/nati...

Rovinghawk

13,300 posts

158 months

Thursday 21st July 2016
quotequote all
Jimbeaux said:
Guys, there are tens of thousands of cops here. Hundreds of thousands of daily interactions. Do you not realize that the action of a miniscule few idiots/bad cops are being highlighted under the media mantra of "if it bleeds it leads"? Come on, put the numbers into perspective, honestly.
How about the perspective of the innocents who get shot? They might not think it's insignificant.

There's been how many in the last week or so? Your police have a problem; until this is recognised they won't do anything about it.

rxtx

6,016 posts

210 months

Thursday 21st July 2016
quotequote all
I'm not even sure what "put the numbers into perspective" means. Does it mean that, since it's such a small percentage, we're not allowed an opinion, or to talk about it?

It happened and we're talking about it. No amount of "but, but, so few people are like that!" will help that guy, or the others that are now dead.

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Thursday 21st July 2016
quotequote all
Jimbeaux said:
rxtx said:
Jimbeaux said:
Guys, there are tens of thousands of cops here. Hundreds of thousands of daily interactions. Do you not realize that the action of a miniscule few idiots/bad cops are being highlighted under the media mantra of "if it bleeds it leads"? Come on, put the numbers into perspective, honestly.
I'm sure we all know this, what's reported is what's reported, and what isn't reported we don't know about. Nobody reports all the great things they do, or they aren't publicised as much, particularly abroad, but there do seem to be rather a lot of unnecessary shootings.
One is too many; however, using pure percentages to overall interactions, what constitutes "alot"?
One is one too many. This is 100% indefensible.

vonuber

17,868 posts

165 months

Thursday 21st July 2016
quotequote all
It would be funny if it wasn't so sad. I'm also sure it is no coincidence it was the black guy who was shot.

I wonder if they have this image in their head when they go to work:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YomgQMU-2fE

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

231 months

Thursday 21st July 2016
quotequote all
WinstonWolf said:
One is one too many.
That is verbatim what I just said
WinstonWolf said:
This is 100% indefensible.
Again, I just said that in my opening sentence. Did I miss something?

Sheepshanks

32,788 posts

119 months

Thursday 21st July 2016
quotequote all
FredClogs said:
I'm watching the doc about the cop watchers in new York, "NYPD, Biggest Gang In New York?" It's on the iPlayer, pretty shocking.
I'm sure I read that most NY cops will never even draw their weapon during their career, much less fire it.

If that's true, then presumably the average must be even lower for the whole US.

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

231 months

Thursday 21st July 2016
quotequote all
Sheepshanks said:
FredClogs said:
I'm watching the doc about the cop watchers in new York, "NYPD, Biggest Gang In New York?" It's on the iPlayer, pretty shocking.
I'm sure I read that most NY cops will never even draw their weapon during their career, much less fire it.

If that's true, then presumably the average must be even lower for the whole US.
That is a very true statement sir.

Pesty

42,655 posts

256 months

Thursday 21st July 2016
quotequote all
Apparently the cop was asked why he fired and his answer was "I don't know"

Seems they do actually hire retards. He's fked and the mental health caretaker is gong to be very rich.

superkartracer

Original Poster:

8,959 posts

222 months

Thursday 21st July 2016
quotequote all
Jimbeaux said:
Sheepshanks said:
FredClogs said:
I'm watching the doc about the cop watchers in new York, "NYPD, Biggest Gang In New York?" It's on the iPlayer, pretty shocking.
I'm sure I read that most NY cops will never even draw their weapon during their career, much less fire it.

If that's true, then presumably the average must be even lower for the whole US.
That is a very true statement sir.
Well seeing as theres 50k ( total staff and assume all armed ) of them and something around 1 in 700 shoot a person each year , thats a fair amount. I think drawing their weapon never ever ... is a bit of a lie , because when i see videos of 20+ cops on one chap.. they all have weapons drawn and pointed etc .

http://abc7ny.com/news/exclusive-off-duty-officer-...

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 21st July 2016
quotequote all
Leaving aside the obvious question of WTF? The cop really fired 3 shots with a rifle at a stationary target and hit him once in the leg? How far away was he?

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 21st July 2016
quotequote all

FredClogs

14,041 posts

161 months

Thursday 21st July 2016
quotequote all
superkartracer said:
Jimbeaux said:
Sheepshanks said:
FredClogs said:
I'm watching the doc about the cop watchers in new York, "NYPD, Biggest Gang In New York?" It's on the iPlayer, pretty shocking.
I'm sure I read that most NY cops will never even draw their weapon during their career, much less fire it.

If that's true, then presumably the average must be even lower for the whole US.
That is a very true statement sir.
Well seeing as theres 50k ( total staff and assume all armed ) of them and something around 1 in 700 shoot a person each year , thats a fair amount. I think drawing their weapon never ever ... is a bit of a lie , because when i see videos of 20+ cops on one chap.. they all have weapons drawn and pointed etc .

http://abc7ny.com/news/exclusive-off-duty-officer-...
The point of the film, which is following the cop watchers who sprang up after Eric Garndner was killed by a polic officer (choked to death not shot) was about the wider police treatment and tactics rather than just how many time they get to shoot or draw their guns.