Discussion
Countdown said:
I think "most cultures" are a mishmash that vary from town to town, County to County, and Country to Country. It doesn't just depend on your ethnicity, it also depends on your education, your job, the people you mix with, and your upbringing.
The culture of somebody living in a terraced house in Salford will differ significantly from somebody who lives in a cottage in Sherborne or a house in Notting Hill.
Not greatly, they'll both probably watch EastEnders, go to the pub,walk the dog,go to some sort of social club when older.The culture of somebody living in a terraced house in Salford will differ significantly from somebody who lives in a cottage in Sherborne or a house in Notting Hill.
Digga said:
jjlynn27 said:
Zod said:
I think you should ask him why he feels so threatened, not me.
I certainly don't apologise for my own culture, being happy to be both a Yorkshireman and an Englishman, but I am also - pace Theresa May - a citizen of the world. I've lived in other countries, speak some of their languages, love travel, but always feel a little frustrated (with myself) where I don't speak any of the language. One of the great things about experiencing other cultures is how you learn better to appreciate your own culture at the same time as gaining experience of other cultures.
Nothing wrong with appreciating other culturesI certainly don't apologise for my own culture, being happy to be both a Yorkshireman and an Englishman, but I am also - pace Theresa May - a citizen of the world. I've lived in other countries, speak some of their languages, love travel, but always feel a little frustrated (with myself) where I don't speak any of the language. One of the great things about experiencing other cultures is how you learn better to appreciate your own culture at the same time as gaining experience of other cultures.
But from a very practical point of view declaring yourself a "citizen of the world" is a nonsense, which is why May was quite right to attack it. If you become sick it is not the world that treats you but the NHS, in your old age you will turn to the UK state system (at least in part), if you had difficulties abroad you would go to the UK Consulate. I could go on and these are only a few examples but above cultural issues citizenship is overwhelmingly practical, for the taxes contributed we expect certain services back.
By contrast this world "citizen" nonsense leads to health tourism as people try and turn the NHS into the IHS. It leads to open borders regardless of the ability of the immigrant to contribute and so increasing burden on infrastructure and welfare systems. If we are truly "world citizens" then our standard of living will start to converge with the billions not fortunate enough to live in a country as developed as the UK, as indeed it has been doing since the turn of the millennium.
JagLover said:
Nothing wrong with appreciating other cultures
But from a very practical point of view declaring yourself a "citizen of the world" is a nonsense, which is why May was quite right to attack it. If you become sick it is not the world that treats you but the NHS, in your old age you will turn to the UK state system (at least in part), if you had difficulties abroad you would go to the UK Consulate. I could go on and these are only a few examples but above cultural issues citizenship is overwhelmingly practical, for the taxes contributed we expect certain services back.
By contrast this world "citizen" nonsense leads to health tourism as people try and turn the NHS into the IHS. It leads to open borders regardless of the ability of the immigrant to contribute and so increasing burden on infrastructure and welfare systems. If we are truly "world citizens" then our standard of living will start to converge with the billions not fortunate enough to live in a country as developed as the UK, as indeed it has been doing since the turn of the millennium.
Totally agree.But from a very practical point of view declaring yourself a "citizen of the world" is a nonsense, which is why May was quite right to attack it. If you become sick it is not the world that treats you but the NHS, in your old age you will turn to the UK state system (at least in part), if you had difficulties abroad you would go to the UK Consulate. I could go on and these are only a few examples but above cultural issues citizenship is overwhelmingly practical, for the taxes contributed we expect certain services back.
By contrast this world "citizen" nonsense leads to health tourism as people try and turn the NHS into the IHS. It leads to open borders regardless of the ability of the immigrant to contribute and so increasing burden on infrastructure and welfare systems. If we are truly "world citizens" then our standard of living will start to converge with the billions not fortunate enough to live in a country as developed as the UK, as indeed it has been doing since the turn of the millennium.
Its childish/Miss Worldy,and completely unworkable.
Shay HTFC said:
I always actively went out of my way to help people find pride in their culture and stand up for it against the onslaught of McDonalds and Levi's, yet at the same time I would then go back home and scoff at my little-Englander friends.
I thought most people wear Levi's because they look good, I've been wearing Levi's since the early 70s, when there's an alternative that looks as good and is equally priced or cheaper I will change but little chance of that after 46 years. What do you suggest I should wear for a night out to show my English culture?
Raygun said:
Shay HTFC said:
I always actively went out of my way to help people find pride in their culture and stand up for it against the onslaught of McDonalds and Levi's, yet at the same time I would then go back home and scoff at my little-Englander friends.
I thought most people wear Levi's because they look good, I've been wearing Levi's since the early 70s, when there's an alternative that looks as good and is equally priced or cheaper I will change but little chance of that after 46 years. What do you suggest I should wear for a night out to show my English culture?
wc98 said:
Digga said:
jjlynn27 said:
rationalization said:
In psychology and logic, rationalization or rationalisation (also known as making excuses) is a defense mechanism in which controversial behaviors or feelings are justified and explained in a seemingly rational or logical manner to avoid the true explanation, and are made consciously tolerable
There is always a reason. 
Digga said:
jjlynn27 said:
So if yellow was 4% to the left, presumably it would have been 96% to the right?
Otis Criblecoblis said:
Don't worry, they have 2million Syrian Doctors there now...
She's shaking again
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jun/27/ange...
Can heat cause you to shake like that? I wasn't aware that it could. Hope it's nothing serious
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jun/27/ange...
Can heat cause you to shake like that? I wasn't aware that it could. Hope it's nothing serious
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