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Jimboka said:
Brexit has dented confidence. So hardly surprising that businesses will take this into account.
I saw a piece on TV where the Frankfurt chamber of commerce have a queue forming of UK businesses keen to relocate there rather than risk the uncertainty of little England. I'd do the same in their shoes .
There's a reason an awful lot of companies are located in the UK. They'll have some interesting times dealing with employment law in a number of EU countries. I saw a piece on TV where the Frankfurt chamber of commerce have a queue forming of UK businesses keen to relocate there rather than risk the uncertainty of little England. I'd do the same in their shoes .
Smollet said:
boyse7en said:
Smollet said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
Europa1 said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
During the Korean war, a US Huey helicopter was shot down whilst on a supply run to a forward US base. Various quarter masters all claimed to have had supplies and equipment on that Huey. When they checked the returns from the various quarter masters, the helicopter was apparently carrying around 400 tons of supplies and equipment 
it seems that like the idiots who blame any slight or otherwise variations in the weather/ climate on man made CO2 emissions, there are some who want to blame Brexit for just about everything that has happened in the world since June 23rd.
That Huey must have been incredible - it had also apparently travelled back in time in order to fly in the Korean War. it seems that like the idiots who blame any slight or otherwise variations in the weather/ climate on man made CO2 emissions, there are some who want to blame Brexit for just about everything that has happened in the world since June 23rd.
Jimboka said:
Brexit has dented confidence. So hardly surprising that businesses will take this into account.
I saw a piece on TV where the Frankfurt chamber of commerce have a queue forming of UK businesses keen to relocate there rather than risk the uncertainty of little England. I'd do the same in their shoes .
Close the door on your way out, comrade.I saw a piece on TV where the Frankfurt chamber of commerce have a queue forming of UK businesses keen to relocate there rather than risk the uncertainty of little England. I'd do the same in their shoes .
London424 said:
Jimboka said:
Brexit has dented confidence. So hardly surprising that businesses will take this into account.
I saw a piece on TV where the Frankfurt chamber of commerce have a queue forming of UK businesses keen to relocate there rather than risk the uncertainty of little England. I'd do the same in their shoes .
There's a reason an awful lot of companies are located in the UK. They'll have some interesting times dealing with employment law in a number of EU countries. I saw a piece on TV where the Frankfurt chamber of commerce have a queue forming of UK businesses keen to relocate there rather than risk the uncertainty of little England. I'd do the same in their shoes .
And I voted remain. Brexit will have a lot to answer for, but not spurious B.S. Distributed Ledger Technology - Brexit's fault. FFS.
London424 said:
There's a reason an awful lot of companies are located in the UK. They'll have some interesting times dealing with employment law in a number of EU countries.
+1 Dutch Employment law is elaborate and complex and enough to give most UK directors a heart condition, especially the long term sick rules!Vandenberg said:
London424 said:
There's a reason an awful lot of companies are located in the UK. They'll have some interesting times dealing with employment law in a number of EU countries.
+1 Dutch Employment law is elaborate and complex and enough to give most UK directors a heart condition, especially the long term sick rules!Europa1 said:
And having to deal with Works Councils.
Thanks for the reminder, I saw some very painful numbers on a spreadsheet relating to Works councils on a project I was on.One rule that stuck in my mind was: Works council members can only be dismissed if the worker himself or herself agrees in writing, or if it has been authorised by a magistrate.
This is still my favourite example of EU employment law.
http://www.cipd.co.uk/pm/peoplemanagement/b/weblog...
That's right. It's cheaper to pay people two thirds of their salary for the rest of their careers to retirement (while accruing full retirement benefit) to NOT come to work than it is to make them redundant
http://www.cipd.co.uk/pm/peoplemanagement/b/weblog...
That's right. It's cheaper to pay people two thirds of their salary for the rest of their careers to retirement (while accruing full retirement benefit) to NOT come to work than it is to make them redundant
The thing with EU employment issues is that it is chronic and iterative; the adverse effects increase with time, rather than diminish. Businesses get less efficient and the labour market becomes more dysfunctional.
I've mentioned somewhere on NP&E previously that I was talking to a guy from an MNC I work with the other week. The business, like many large firms, is the result of multiple layers of takeovers, over time, and in their French operation, this has resulted in three people, doing the same job, but taken on at different times, by different entities, having three substantially different pay scales; 25k, 45k and 75k. Possibly one of those pay deals is right, or perhaps, even, none is, but short of boosting everyone up to the highest level, there is no way of aligning them, at all. The French equivalent of our TUPE legislation is mad.
I've mentioned somewhere on NP&E previously that I was talking to a guy from an MNC I work with the other week. The business, like many large firms, is the result of multiple layers of takeovers, over time, and in their French operation, this has resulted in three people, doing the same job, but taken on at different times, by different entities, having three substantially different pay scales; 25k, 45k and 75k. Possibly one of those pay deals is right, or perhaps, even, none is, but short of boosting everyone up to the highest level, there is no way of aligning them, at all. The French equivalent of our TUPE legislation is mad.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/fo...
Ford blame losses on Brexit rather than poor quality vehicles and threatening to close two more plants in the UK. Independent w
ks itself into a coma because the two locations voted to leave EU. wk induced coma also the fault of Brexit.
Head of Peugeot-Citroen thinks people are foolish enough to pay more for stty French cars. He wants to increase new car costs with the blame put on Brexit.
Didn't the EU help fund the Ford plant in Turkey that allowed the closure of the plant in Southampton?
Ford blame losses on Brexit rather than poor quality vehicles and threatening to close two more plants in the UK. Independent w
ks itself into a coma because the two locations voted to leave EU. wk induced coma also the fault of Brexit.Head of Peugeot-Citroen thinks people are foolish enough to pay more for s
tty French cars. He wants to increase new car costs with the blame put on Brexit.Didn't the EU help fund the Ford plant in Turkey that allowed the closure of the plant in Southampton?
Yes Turkey that isn't in the Eu. But why would they do that? Take jobs out of an eu country for one that's not.
You can't make anything if you are not in the eu we were told over and over. I seem to recal several plant closures over the years.
Do they even make any vehicles here any more? Have they ever closed any plants in France or Germany?
Ford headquarters are in Germany. Sounds like punishment to me or just excuses
You can't make anything if you are not in the eu we were told over and over. I seem to recal several plant closures over the years.
Do they even make any vehicles here any more? Have they ever closed any plants in France or Germany?
Ford headquarters are in Germany. Sounds like punishment to me or just excuses
Puggit said:
Jimboka said:
Brexit has dented confidence. So hardly surprising that businesses will take this into account.
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Hardly surprising when BBC, Guardian and Sky News are all trying to hype up the lack of confidence. These organisations are part of the cause of lack of confidence. .
People in charge of big businesses, who likely know what they are talking about, site Brexit as one of the reasons for difficult trading.
PHers not in charge of big businesses, who likely do not know what they are talking about, claim the people in charge of big businesses are wrong.
Right .....
PHers not in charge of big businesses, who likely do not know what they are talking about, claim the people in charge of big businesses are wrong.
Right .....
PurpleMoonlight said:
People in charge of big businesses, who likely know what they are talking about, site Brexit as one of the reasons for difficult trading.
PHers not in charge of big businesses, who likely do not know what they are talking about, claim the people in charge of big businesses are wrong.
Right .....
And would never twist their pronouncements to suit a political agenda?PHers not in charge of big businesses, who likely do not know what they are talking about, claim the people in charge of big businesses are wrong.
Right .....
Soov535 said:
Composite Guru said:
PurpleMoonlight said:
More a case of corporate greed if you ask me.
£2.5bn profit in 6 months is just not enough.
I agree. Far too many people lining their own pockets regardless whether staying in the EU was good or not. £2.5bn profit in 6 months is just not enough.
No of course you haven't. You just see a big number and get all chippy.
I also pointed out that profits = more tax, as does paying people good salaries.
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