Uber are getting shirty
Discussion
Sa Calobra said:
I'm going against the flow of some on this topic. How many drunk women/males rely on a taxi to get them home safely? Uber needs to shut the fk up and learn responsible corporate PR and ways.
Powerfully built PHers who have never experienced being female and vunerable don't know the risk
What tfl has done is not extreme. It's common sense.
Get your house in order Uber.
You clearly have 0 idea how this works.Powerfully built PHers who have never experienced being female and vunerable don't know the risk
What tfl has done is not extreme. It's common sense.
Get your house in order Uber.
TFL give licences to drivers, only then is uber allowed to let them drive. If the driver is dodgy it's entirely TFLs fault, this is how they ensure the public's safety.
The Spruce goose said:
Its approach to how Enhanced Disclosure and Barring Service (DBS) checks are obtained.
This makes no sense...Having recently enjoyed the pointless unhelpfulness of the DBS service when chasing my own cert.. theres only one way to get a valid DBS.. and thats via HM gov.
If TFL don't like Uber's certs.. then they need to take it up with the service that provides them, and the Quango that runs it.
https://secure.crbonline.gov.uk/
markcoznottz said:
hyphen said:
Good on London. It was Cameron, Osbourne and their cronies whose support they were relying on, and with them gone and a Labour Mayor TFL can make a stand.
Horrible company. I expect lots of lawsuits and they will get it back soon though.
Some customers love it, however they should know once Uber gets its dominance, they will screw them for every penny. Just this week they banned sharing a cab from Heathrow and other popular destinations to make more profit.
There is a place for a uber type company, and healthy competition against black cabs and private hires, but Uber cannot be trusted.
Horrible company. I expect lots of lawsuits and they will get it back soon though.
Some customers love it, however they should know once Uber gets its dominance, they will screw them for every penny. Just this week they banned sharing a cab from Heathrow and other popular destinations to make more profit.
There is a place for a uber type company, and healthy competition against black cabs and private hires, but Uber cannot be trusted.
Edited by hyphen on Friday 22 September 11:21
Will be interesting seeing how much influence Cam and Osbourne still have.
Errr George can you help us out here and justify your laughable fee!?
KTF said:
Blaster72 said:
I've only used them once and the African driver spent the whole trip telling me how he doesn't make any money and Uber had screwed him over.
Did he explain why he was still driving for them then if he didn't make any money and had been 'screwed over'?The Spruce goose said:
It is amazing how the latest breed of consumer doesn't give a fk about where the money ends up as long as they get the convenience. I for one think that a world filled with big brands ruling over everything is a bad one.
There are loads of taxi apps that works just as as well as uber and pay a fair wage.
True enough ,we now live with a pathetic economic model of app based work from food deliver to shaving products.There are loads of taxi apps that works just as as well as uber and pay a fair wage.
Makes the country a magnet for people with no plan for anything beyond the next meal who are taylor made to accept this garbage.
Not exactly the shining new world promised by silicon valley and its bullste.
treetops said:
Well let's just say George Osborne is a well paid adviser of a certain investment manager...who've invested £100m in Uber...
Last time I looked, Uber was many things, but "profitable" wasn't one of them. You'll know when it ever becomes profitable. 50 clone copies of it will open overnight.
turbomoped said:
True enough ,we now live with a pathetic economic model of app based work from food deliver to shaving products.
Makes the country a magnet for people with no plan for anything beyond the next meal who are taylor made to accept this garbage.
Not exactly the shining new world promised by silicon valley and its bullste.
As a consumer of services I buy into Uber's customer service vs the old school crappy black cab that can't even take a card.Makes the country a magnet for people with no plan for anything beyond the next meal who are taylor made to accept this garbage.
Not exactly the shining new world promised by silicon valley and its bullste.
The annoying thing is the cabbies are acting like luddites. They could modernize and improve their offer. It wouldn't be hard. But no, retrench, lobby and seek state protection...
..or is it that they wouldn't like HMRC having a full audit trail?
AC43 said:
Plus they are horribly rattly draughty uncomfortable things with the noisiet tugboat engines known to man.
Give me a Prius any day for a late night trip home or early morning Heathrow Express run.
Although thats probably one thing you cant blame the cabbies personally for - the wheelchair-accessible vehicles they dont have much choice over (none whatsoever untill quite recently) Give me a Prius any day for a late night trip home or early morning Heathrow Express run.
I wonder if its quite a waste of resources that every cab ride has to be this ponderous wheelchair friendly monstrosity? What do other cities do? That said Ive hired a london style cab in cities other than london where theyre chosen to operate alongside conventional cars so you cant blame the vehicle for the drivers attitudes or the ridiculous costs.
jamoor said:
Certainly a far sight better than the old minicab firms.
They are trying to totally destroy an old industry that has ripped off consumers for years and gotten away with it.
More horse excrement from someone with no idea what he's talking aboutThey are trying to totally destroy an old industry that has ripped off consumers for years and gotten away with it.
Use black cabs, don't use black cabs, your call, it makes no never mind to me, but get it clear once and for all, the black cab driver DOESN'T set the metered fare, TFL does.
Every year the L.T.D.A. petitions TFL for a fare review, citing this, this, and this.
TFL look into the price of a new taxi, the new electric TX will be £55,600, the last new TX1 I bought was an N prefix reg, 1994, £28,995.
The price of diesel is taken into consideration, any rise in VED, or insurance rates etc., spare parts, tyres, blah, blah, blah.
Sometimes TFL sanction a rise, sometimes they don't.
It usually starts with the flag fall, over the years it went from £1.80 to £2.00, then today it's £2.60 for the first 234 metres, or 50.4 seconds, for each additional 117.4 metres there is a charge of 20p and so on.
I've been out of "the game" now for almost 6 years, I'd had the good times and earned a nice few quid, I'll never need to work again, but I did the job straight, I never said no to anyone, I went where they wanted to go, when they wanted to go.
It didn't bother me if they were back, white, yellow or brown, if they could pay the fare, they could get in.
I wasn't getting any younger, Uber were starting to make a difference, and I didn't have enough years left in me to wait to see if they'd run us into the ground, or lose their licence.
They have 21 days to appeal, and with their millions, it's dollars to doughnuts that they've a good chance of spreading some dough around, and getting it overturned.
I've often wondered why Uber didn't adopt the "Just Eat" business model, and provide a booking, tracking and billing service for existing PHOs, rather than try to compete directly with them.
I can see the appeal being costly and contentious though - they are not the sort of company to take decisions like this lightly, and they do have a huge pool of investor cash to splash on the appeal.
I can see the appeal being costly and contentious though - they are not the sort of company to take decisions like this lightly, and they do have a huge pool of investor cash to splash on the appeal.
People are saying that TFL have banned them to protect other PHO and Black cabs - but the statement refers to a number of issues which appear to be valid criteria for not allowing them to hold a licence - you would think therefore they will be bullet proof against any appeal - BUT - if UBER somehow convince them (or a court) that they have complied with the rules then TFL will have to give them a licence.
S11Steve said:
I've often wondered why Uber didn't adopt the "Just Eat" business model, and provide a booking, tracking and billing service for existing PHOs, rather than try to compete directly with them.
I can see the appeal being costly and contentious though - they are not the sort of company to take decisions like this lightly, and they do have a huge pool of investor cash to splash on the appeal.
Because it isn't about cabs. It's about a massive, very smart data platform that can be tuned to almost any mode of transport/delivery.I can see the appeal being costly and contentious though - they are not the sort of company to take decisions like this lightly, and they do have a huge pool of investor cash to splash on the appeal.
Mojooo said:
People are saying that TFL have banned them to protect other PHO and Black cabs - but the statement refers to a number of issues which appear to be valid criteria for not allowing them to hold a licence - you would think therefore they will be bullet proof against any appeal - BUT - if UBER somehow convince them (or a court) that they have complied with the rules then TFL will have to give them a licence.
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