Hate Crime?

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amusingduck

9,398 posts

137 months

Monday 28th January 2019
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La Liga said:
he social media crime I describe is classed as 'violent crime'.

Probably best to check before trying to be clever.

Oops... rolleyes


I wonder what percentage of the population would consider retweeting anything a violent crime rofl

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 28th January 2019
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amusingduck said:
I wonder what percentage of the population would consider retweeting anything a violent crime rofl
Probably close to 0 (the RT debacle that this thread was bumped for wasn't recorded as a crime).



Mr. White

1,035 posts

105 months

Monday 28th January 2019
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La Liga said:
he social media crime I describe is classed as 'violent crime'.
rofl FFS.

Russian Troll Bot

25,012 posts

228 months

Tuesday 29th January 2019
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Follow up statement



https://twitter.com/Humberbeat/status/108989990017...


It's gone down about as well as you'd expect

Oakey

27,606 posts

217 months

Tuesday 29th January 2019
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If he simply went "no comment" would they bother looking any further into it? I.e, would they go to the trouble of obtaining IP addresses and trying to prove he was using his device at the time the comment was posted to prove it definitely was him or would they quietly walk away?

Most normal people who have little experience with the law think this sort of thing can be dismissed with rationale and common sense and end up incriminating themselves when they go "yeah I posted it, so what, it's a joke!"

Russian Troll Bot

25,012 posts

228 months

Thursday 21st February 2019
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West Yorkshire Police with another PR masterstroke.........

https://twitter.com/WestYorksPolice/status/1098225...

Rovinghawk

13,300 posts

159 months

Thursday 21st February 2019
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Russian Troll Bot said:
West Yorkshire Police with another PR masterstroke.........

https://twitter.com/WestYorksPolice/status/1098225...
It might be a spoof from people trying to make them look like either incompetent numpties or politically correct pillocks who glory in awards for not bothering to do their jobs whilst others suffer.

Alternatively it might be genuine.............

dasigty

587 posts

82 months

Thursday 21st February 2019
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What many people dont realise is that close to four thousand were arrested last year for "Speech crimes", so next time you hear some chief constable bleating about lack of resources remind them of the thousands of hours wasted on this nonsense.

Its long past time this country got a grip of this ste, equality does not mean some sections of society can be more hurt by words than others.

Mothersruin

8,573 posts

100 months

Thursday 21st February 2019
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dasigty said:
What many people dont realise is that close to four thousand were arrested last year for "Speech crimes", so next time you hear some chief constable bleating about lack of resources remind them of the thousands of hours wasted on this nonsense.

Its long past time this country got a grip of this ste, equality does not mean some sections of society can be more hurt by words than others.
Treated as blasphemy laws by some in places that don't have them.

dasigty

587 posts

82 months

Thursday 21st February 2019
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Mothersruin said:
Treated as blasphemy laws by some in places that don't have them.
Funny that it was the lefties that fought tooth and nail against blasphemy laws in the sixties but are now the main supporters of them under "Equality", seems its ok to suppress free speech only when it suits their agenda.

irocfan

40,636 posts

191 months

Thursday 21st February 2019
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dasigty said:
Mothersruin said:
Treated as blasphemy laws by some in places that don't have them.
Funny that it was the lefties that fought tooth and nail against blasphemy laws in the sixties but are now the main supporters of them under "Equality", seems its ok to suppress free speech only when it suits their agenda.
there was an article about this a year or 2 back how 'Christian values' (including blasphemy laws, laws on porn etc) were to be derided - now a few decades on it's blasphemy (of the wrong sort) that's bad, porn is now no longer 'empowering' but exploitative etc etc

Ratski83

952 posts

74 months

Saturday 23rd February 2019
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Funny to see even the Police’s recruitment procedures have now been deemed a hate crime.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/02/22/police...

Seems to be a very fine line between Positive Action and Positive Discrimination one lost in cultural Marxist doublespeak.

Russian Troll Bot

25,012 posts

228 months

Saturday 23rd February 2019
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A teenager prosecuted after posting rap lyrics including the N-word on Instagram had her conviction overturned today.

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-new...

biggbn

23,627 posts

221 months

Saturday 23rd February 2019
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Ratski83 said:
Funny to see even the Police’s recruitment procedures have now been deemed a hate crime.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/02/22/police...

Seems to be a very fine line between Positive Action and Positive Discrimination one lost in cultural Marxist doublespeak.
What the fk does that have to do with Marxism? You are the one using doublespeak and clouding issues I would suggest

8.4L 154

5,531 posts

254 months

Saturday 23rd February 2019
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biggbn said:
Ratski83 said:
Funny to see even the Police’s recruitment procedures have now been deemed a hate crime.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/02/22/police...

Seems to be a very fine line between Positive Action and Positive Discrimination one lost in cultural Marxist doublespeak.
What the fk does that have to do with Marxism? You are the one using doublespeak and clouding issues I would suggest
Not a lot to do with hate crime either. I cant see any element of hate, and the closest it comes to crime is that its a story about a police force.

dasigty

587 posts

82 months

Saturday 23rd February 2019
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8.4L 154 said:
Not a lot to do with hate crime either. I cant see any element of hate, and the closest it comes to crime is that its a story about a police force.
You have obviously not been following what the police of today deem as a "Hate crime" then, ANYTHING that COULD cause ANYONE some kind of claim to be offended is pursued with vigour by the gallant boys in blue.

This is only unusual in that the claimant is not a minority, but the judge applied the "Law" equally for a change.


Bigends

5,435 posts

129 months

Saturday 23rd February 2019
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dasigty said:
You have obviously not been following what the police of today deem as a "Hate crime" then, ANYTHING that COULD cause ANYONE some kind of claim to be offended is pursued with vigour by the gallant boys in blue.

This is only unusual in that the claimant is not a minority, but the judge applied the "Law" equally for a change.
It would be a hate incident rather tan a crime. No crime has occured here

A hate incident is any non-crime perceived by the victim or any other person, as being motivated by prejudice or hate'.

A hate crime or hate incident is based upon any of the following,

race or ethnicity
sexual orientation
religion or belief
disability
transgender identity

dasigty

587 posts

82 months

Saturday 23rd February 2019
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Bigends said:
It would be a hate incident rather tan a crime. No crime has occured here

A hate incident is any non-crime perceived by the victim or any other person, as being motivated by prejudice or hate'.

A hate crime or hate incident is based upon any of the following,

race or ethnicity
sexual orientation
religion or belief
disability
transgender identity
Its the police themselves who refer to any incident as a "Hate crime" when compiling statistics used to justify their failure in other areas of police work.

Nor has causing anyone offence ever been a "Crime" under British law, the opposite is true, you have the right to freedom of speech that is supposedly protected in law, that it is currently not is the only crime with any of these incidents.

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 23rd February 2019
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dasigty said:
Its the police themselves who refer to any incident as a "Hate crime" when compiling statistics used to justify their failure in other areas of police work.
No they don't.

You need to understand the difference between crimes and incidents. There aren't many of the former.


rscott

14,789 posts

192 months

Saturday 23rd February 2019
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La Liga said:
dasigty said:
Its the police themselves who refer to any incident as a "Hate crime" when compiling statistics used to justify their failure in other areas of police work.
No they don't.

You need to understand the difference between crimes and incidents. There aren't many of the former.
You do realise you're trying to have a rational discussion with a full blown Qanon supporter?