Everyone is so offended.

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anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 27th October 2019
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Ultra Sound Guy said:
I find that highly offensive.

Men shouldn't wear earrings and toilet paper doesn't identify as tissue.

JagLover

42,413 posts

235 months

Saturday 2nd November 2019
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Sheffield university bans students wearing sombreros for Halloween parties.

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/11/the-bizarre-...

R Mutt

5,891 posts

72 months

Monday 4th November 2019
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JagLover said:
Sheffield university bans students wearing sombreros for Halloween parties.

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/11/the-bizarre-...
No doubt a result of the outrage from the massive Mexican community in Sheffield.

The thing that perplexes me is that everything is a pastiche of a culture to an extent. Every advert for a foreign style food product for example.

Of course one of the key tenets of anti- appropriation is that someone shouldn't profit from an oppressed minority by imitating them, e.g. selling their food. Something of a contraction in London especially, where you can find all the foods of the world served to you by an Eastern European which is apparently OK.

JagLover

42,413 posts

235 months

Monday 4th November 2019
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R Mutt said:
JagLover said:
Sheffield university bans students wearing sombreros for Halloween parties.

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/11/the-bizarre-...
No doubt a result of the outrage from the massive Mexican community in Sheffield.

The thing that perplexes me is that everything is a pastiche of a culture to an extent. Every advert for a foreign style food product for example.

Of course one of the key tenets of anti- appropriation is that someone shouldn't profit from an oppressed minority by imitating them, e.g. selling their food. Something of a contraction in London especially, where you can find all the foods of the world served to you by an Eastern European which is apparently OK.
The basic problem is that people have lost track of the dividing line between mocking another culture and affectionally embracing some aspects, even in a light hearted way.

They do actually have a couple of Mexican students at Sheffield and they were quite happy with people wearing sombreros. Also since when have sombreros been sacred to Mexicans?

R Mutt

5,891 posts

72 months

Monday 4th November 2019
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JagLover said:
R Mutt said:
JagLover said:
Sheffield university bans students wearing sombreros for Halloween parties.

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/11/the-bizarre-...
No doubt a result of the outrage from the massive Mexican community in Sheffield.

The thing that perplexes me is that everything is a pastiche of a culture to an extent. Every advert for a foreign style food product for example.

Of course one of the key tenets of anti- appropriation is that someone shouldn't profit from an oppressed minority by imitating them, e.g. selling their food. Something of a contraction in London especially, where you can find all the foods of the world served to you by an Eastern European which is apparently OK.
The basic problem is that people have lost track of the dividing line between mocking another culture and affectionally embracing some aspects, even in a light hearted way.

They do actually have a couple of Mexican students at Sheffield and they were quite happy with people wearing sombreros. Also since when have sombreros been sacred to Mexicans?
Exactly, you can't even show your appreciation

A Winner Is You

24,980 posts

227 months

Monday 4th November 2019
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This t-shirt caused a lot of controversy recently. Without posting the context, can anyone anyone see the reason why?


HTP99

22,552 posts

140 months

Monday 4th November 2019
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Just Googled it, it has been compared to "blacking up"; black T-Shirt with a large smile and the name of a black sportsman, seems like people trying to find offence in something, no matter how tenuous.

Tankrizzo

7,270 posts

193 months

Monday 4th November 2019
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JagLover said:
Sheffield university bans students wearing sombreros for Halloween parties.

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/11/the-bizarre-...
God, they better never go to a Chiquitos restaurant!

WCZ

10,526 posts

194 months

Monday 4th November 2019
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A Winner Is You said:
This t-shirt caused a lot of controversy recently. Without posting the context, can anyone anyone see the reason why?

what the fk ????

psi310398

9,087 posts

203 months

Monday 4th November 2019
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Tankrizzo said:
JagLover said:
Sheffield university bans students wearing sombreros for Halloween parties.

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/11/the-bizarre-...
God, they better never go to a Chiquitos restaurant!
Wasn't it ever thus with student unions?

It was a long time ago but when I was at university I don't think anybody normal paid the slightest bit of attention to what the student union said or did. It was populated by a small group of rent-a-trots who slept with each other, fought in vicious little factions and spent their lives making, debating and passing resolutions on various topics du jour. But they affected the price of fish not one bit.

My son confirms that it was the same at his university (he left last year) but with the added virtue that students can now easily opt out of subscribing to the SU, which was not possible in my time.

R Mutt

5,891 posts

72 months

Monday 4th November 2019
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The question of freedom of speech in comedy v offence is overly complex. A very simple area where this goes wrong is when you can't even present the bad guy for mockery so it's no surprise you can't even go near a 'protected group'

On Tourettes now being off the table, I recall OCD also being something the media were criticised for undermining. Except this wasn't through it being the butt of jokes or cliches, it was because a sufferer who was speaking on GMTV only outlined the more trivial symptoms and the daytime TV show neglected to address the other more dramatic symptoms such as unwanted thoughts of murdering your own children.

R Mutt

5,891 posts

72 months

Monday 4th November 2019
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Offensive cakes. And not the sort you're thinking.

https://www.scmp.com/lifestyle/food-drink/article/...

smn159

12,659 posts

217 months

Monday 4th November 2019
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R Mutt said:
Offensive cakes. And not the sort you're thinking.

https://www.scmp.com/lifestyle/food-drink/article/...
South China Morning Post!!

Out of interest, just much time do you devote to scouring the internet for bullst stories of people being supposedly 'offended'?

dudleybloke

19,824 posts

186 months

Monday 4th November 2019
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The cake story was on my local news site over the weekend.

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/whats-on/food-dri...

Seems the red army factions in the UK are threatening anything that they don't like




R Mutt

5,891 posts

72 months

Monday 4th November 2019
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smn159 said:
South China Morning Post!!

Out of interest, just much time do you devote to scouring the internet for bullst stories of people being supposedly 'offended'?
It was on the Times site which I read daily but is subscription only so I Googled an alternative source for the benefit of other members.

So about 30 seconds today. If I spent another 30 seconds I could probably find it on the Daily Mail site for you.

Edited by R Mutt on Monday 4th November 15:22

smn159

12,659 posts

217 months

Monday 4th November 2019
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No direct quotes, body of story doesn't reflect the headline...

It's a bullst story designed to (and apparently succeeding) get people frothing

I'm sure you could easily find it on the Mail website hehe

TheGuru

744 posts

101 months

Monday 4th November 2019
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R Mutt said:
No doubt a result of the outrage from the massive Mexican community in Sheffield.

The thing that perplexes me is that everything is a pastiche of a culture to an extent. Every advert for a foreign style food product for example.

Of course one of the key tenets of anti- appropriation is that someone shouldn't profit from an oppressed minority by imitating them, e.g. selling their food. Something of a contraction in London especially, where you can find all the foods of the world served to you by an Eastern European which is apparently OK.
The entire continent of Asia seems to get a free pass as well

Jazzy Jag

3,423 posts

91 months

Monday 4th November 2019
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I see that the town of Bideford has had to change it's signs.

Due to the predominant colour of the buildings, it was known as The Little White Town.

This has now been deemed offensive and removed from the town signs.

R Mutt

5,891 posts

72 months

Monday 4th November 2019
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smn159 said:
No direct quotes, body of story doesn't reflect the headline...

It's a bullst story designed to (and apparently succeeding) get people frothing

I'm sure you could easily find it on the Mail website hehe
Cake International said:
The content and message behind the cake has been viewed as offensive and led to complaints from attendees, therefore the decision has been taken to withdraw it from the competition
Chinese bakers in the competition were offended, as reported in outlets ranging from the Times to the Birmingham Mail to the South China Morning Post (which goes on to defend democracy in Hong Kong by showing cakes on a similar theme), which myself and others have pointed out in a thread about people being offended.

Not sure it really suits the Daily Mail's agenda.

DocJock

8,357 posts

240 months

Tuesday 5th November 2019
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Jazzy Jag said:
I see that the town of Bideford has had to change it's signs.

Due to the predominant colour of the buildings, it was known as The Little White Town.

This has now been deemed offensive and removed from the town signs.
No it hasn't. Stop posting complete rubbish.

All they have done is add 'Charles Kingsley's' before 'Little White Town' and added a date, to provide some extra context.