Everyone is so offended.

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Mothersruin

8,296 posts

47 months

Friday 25th October
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So it's basically people being offended on behalf of other people again, not knowing the full story.

Or does UK Blackness trump African Blackness nowadays?

Agreed - Nanos should have stuck to it's guns once the explanation was made clear.

Stuff needs facing up to, not hiding away or banning - all this petty bks creates white-noise (racist) that swamps the macro issues and they don't get addressed.

dudleybloke

15,236 posts

134 months

Friday 25th October
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Well the two slot electric pop-up toaster has been used to oppress black people for centuries.

(He should have painted soldiers instead as there's a joke in there.)

andy_s

15,160 posts

207 months

Friday 25th October
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It's like cultural Munchausen syndrome by proxy.

AstonZagato

9,023 posts

158 months

Friday 25th October
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I believe the Nando's founder has a huge collection of African art. I guess it would have been taken down in part to protect the painting.

popeyewhite

10,679 posts

68 months

Friday 25th October
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andy_s said:
It's like cultural Munchausen syndrome by proxy.
Except it's paint on canvas, not a child deliberately being made to appear ill so the parent can garner attention!

Type R Tom

2,604 posts

97 months

Friday 25th October
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Jonathon Pie has his say on the Hollywood comment:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f19JaYA1Qf4

Hits the nail on the head once again.

Ultra Sound Guy

27,125 posts

142 months

Sunday 27th October
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andy_s

15,160 posts

207 months

Sunday 27th October
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popeyewhite said:
andy_s said:
It's like cultural Munchausen syndrome by proxy.
Except it's paint on canvas, not a child deliberately being made to appear ill so the parent can garner attention!
Bigger picture...

popeyewhite

10,679 posts

68 months

Sunday 27th October
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andy_s said:
popeyewhite said:
andy_s said:
It's like cultural Munchausen syndrome by proxy.
Except it's paint on canvas, not a child deliberately being made to appear ill so the parent can garner attention!
Bigger picture...
Yeah, I know.... I just didn't think the simile worked.

5490

2,186 posts

46 months

Sunday 27th October
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Ultra Sound Guy said:
I find that highly offensive.

Men shouldn't wear earrings and toilet paper doesn't identify as tissue.

JagLover

27,087 posts

183 months

Saturday 2nd November
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Sheffield university bans students wearing sombreros for Halloween parties.

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/11/the-bizarre-...

R Mutt

1,450 posts

20 months

Monday 4th November
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JagLover said:
Sheffield university bans students wearing sombreros for Halloween parties.

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/11/the-bizarre-...
No doubt a result of the outrage from the massive Mexican community in Sheffield.

The thing that perplexes me is that everything is a pastiche of a culture to an extent. Every advert for a foreign style food product for example.

Of course one of the key tenets of anti- appropriation is that someone shouldn't profit from an oppressed minority by imitating them, e.g. selling their food. Something of a contraction in London especially, where you can find all the foods of the world served to you by an Eastern European which is apparently OK.

JagLover

27,087 posts

183 months

Monday 4th November
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R Mutt said:
JagLover said:
Sheffield university bans students wearing sombreros for Halloween parties.

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/11/the-bizarre-...
No doubt a result of the outrage from the massive Mexican community in Sheffield.

The thing that perplexes me is that everything is a pastiche of a culture to an extent. Every advert for a foreign style food product for example.

Of course one of the key tenets of anti- appropriation is that someone shouldn't profit from an oppressed minority by imitating them, e.g. selling their food. Something of a contraction in London especially, where you can find all the foods of the world served to you by an Eastern European which is apparently OK.
The basic problem is that people have lost track of the dividing line between mocking another culture and affectionally embracing some aspects, even in a light hearted way.

They do actually have a couple of Mexican students at Sheffield and they were quite happy with people wearing sombreros. Also since when have sombreros been sacred to Mexicans?

R Mutt

1,450 posts

20 months

Monday 4th November
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JagLover said:
R Mutt said:
JagLover said:
Sheffield university bans students wearing sombreros for Halloween parties.

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/11/the-bizarre-...
No doubt a result of the outrage from the massive Mexican community in Sheffield.

The thing that perplexes me is that everything is a pastiche of a culture to an extent. Every advert for a foreign style food product for example.

Of course one of the key tenets of anti- appropriation is that someone shouldn't profit from an oppressed minority by imitating them, e.g. selling their food. Something of a contraction in London especially, where you can find all the foods of the world served to you by an Eastern European which is apparently OK.
The basic problem is that people have lost track of the dividing line between mocking another culture and affectionally embracing some aspects, even in a light hearted way.

They do actually have a couple of Mexican students at Sheffield and they were quite happy with people wearing sombreros. Also since when have sombreros been sacred to Mexicans?
Exactly, you can't even show your appreciation

A Winner Is You

20,967 posts

175 months

Monday 4th November
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This t-shirt caused a lot of controversy recently. Without posting the context, can anyone anyone see the reason why?


HTP99

15,308 posts

88 months

Monday 4th November
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Just Googled it, it has been compared to "blacking up"; black T-Shirt with a large smile and the name of a black sportsman, seems like people trying to find offence in something, no matter how tenuous.

Tankrizzo

5,319 posts

141 months

Monday 4th November
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JagLover said:
Sheffield university bans students wearing sombreros for Halloween parties.

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/11/the-bizarre-...
God, they better never go to a Chiquitos restaurant!

WCZ

7,357 posts

142 months

Monday 4th November
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A Winner Is You said:
This t-shirt caused a lot of controversy recently. Without posting the context, can anyone anyone see the reason why?

what the fk ????

psi310398

5,290 posts

151 months

Monday 4th November
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Tankrizzo said:
JagLover said:
Sheffield university bans students wearing sombreros for Halloween parties.

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/11/the-bizarre-...
God, they better never go to a Chiquitos restaurant!
Wasn't it ever thus with student unions?

It was a long time ago but when I was at university I don't think anybody normal paid the slightest bit of attention to what the student union said or did. It was populated by a small group of rent-a-trots who slept with each other, fought in vicious little factions and spent their lives making, debating and passing resolutions on various topics du jour. But they affected the price of fish not one bit.

My son confirms that it was the same at his university (he left last year) but with the added virtue that students can now easily opt out of subscribing to the SU, which was not possible in my time.

R Mutt

1,450 posts

20 months

Monday 4th November
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The question of freedom of speech in comedy v offence is overly complex. A very simple area where this goes wrong is when you can't even present the bad guy for mockery so it's no surprise you can't even go near a 'protected group'

On Tourettes now being off the table, I recall OCD also being something the media were criticised for undermining. Except this wasn't through it being the butt of jokes or cliches, it was because a sufferer who was speaking on GMTV only outlined the more trivial symptoms and the daytime TV show neglected to address the other more dramatic symptoms such as unwanted thoughts of murdering your own children.