Everyone is so offended.

[glazbagun]

Likes Fast Cars said:

re: "I suspect most people would moderate what they say in real life, face to face.", I know a lot of people in real life situations who say it like it is and don't hold back. My preferred way if I'm honest.

What I have noticed over the years is the lack of face-to-face communication we all employ in our daily lives and a propensity for most people to resort to e-mail and forums as the primary means of interaction, which do not convey the intent, mood, humour, emotion, or depth of what a person is trying to say. I've lost count of the number of times I have had to "referee" situations in the workplace because someone got the wrong end of the stick when they read an e-mail and escalated a matter which didn't exist; get the parties in a room and the message is usually conveyed and understood very quickly - without offence or criticism - and everyone gets on with things.

Something I've noticed which has changed in me is that I previously viewed those who disagreed with me a equally intelligent people of my age or slightly older who were equally interested in a good debate with the goal of finding a common solution or at least an accpetance of a new perspective. IOW, I thought everyone was like me and behaved accordingly.

I now feel that is increasingly not the case. Too many wasted posts with people who just want to air their grievances has increasingly led me to view those who present views counter to my own as me as mouth breathing antipathetic bigots until they change my mind.

I can't decide if this is a symptom of me getting old and curmudgeonly or the widespread access to the internet making it a forum for people to post in ways they wouldn't have even ten years ago.

[Likes Fast Cars]

glazbagun said:

Likes Fast Cars said:

re: "I suspect most people would moderate what they say in real life, face to face.", I know a lot of people in real life situations who say it like it is and don't hold back. My preferred way if I'm honest.

What I have noticed over the years is the lack of face-to-face communication we all employ in our daily lives and a propensity for most people to resort to e-mail and forums as the primary means of interaction, which do not convey the intent, mood, humour, emotion, or depth of what a person is trying to say. I've lost count of the number of times I have had to "referee" situations in the workplace because someone got the wrong end of the stick when they read an e-mail and escalated a matter which didn't exist; get the parties in a room and the message is usually conveyed and understood very quickly - without offence or criticism - and everyone gets on with things.

Something I've noticed which has changed in me is that I previously viewed those who disagreed with me a equally intelligent people of my age or slightly older who were equally interested in a good debate with the goal of finding a common solution or at least an accpetance of a new perspective. IOW, I thought everyone was like me and behaved accordingly.

I now feel that is increasingly not the case. Too many wasted posts with people who just want to air their grievances has increasingly led me to view those who present views counter to my own as me as mouth breathing antipathetic bigots until they change my mind.

I can't decide if this is a symptom of me getting old and curmudgeonly or the widespread access to the internet making it a forum for people to post in ways they wouldn't have even ten years ago.

Probably this:

"... a symptom of me getting old and curmudgeonly ..."

I aint getting any younger and feel the same

[Jasandjules]

Halmyre said:

Wealth does not equate to hard work, and vice-versa.

Of course it does. The Duke of Westminister worked very hard and his son works very hard too. This is why they have so much cash.........

[don4l]

Greg66 said:

Shaw Tarse said:

Sylvaforever said:

Here ya go


http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/profile.asp?mem...

what's the betting this gets censored ?

You've done your fair share of reporting posts.

Was that when he was Mojocvh before he was banned, or since he has been Sylvaforever?

Why was Mojocvh banned?

I liked him.

I also liked Cockwomble, and CaraVanMan.

Are we destined to become a really boring corner of the Internet?

[PoleDriver]

don4l said:

Are we destined to become a really boring corner of the Internet?

[Halmyre]

PoleDriver said:

don4l said:

Are we destined to become a really boring corner of the Internet?

'become' ?

[irocfan]

Halmyre said:

PoleDriver said:

don4l said:

Are we destined to become a really boring corner of the Internet?

'become' ?

[Merc 450]

Sparkyhd said:

I think it would be quicker if posts had a quick way of giving feedback. Currently there's a huge amount of re-quoting making threads unnecessarily long. Simple clicks for

Like
Agree
Disagree
Hate

Good idea I would like to like a comment like on Twitter or Facebook rather than having to reply to It

[irocfan]

to be fair though it is everywhere that people are professionally offended - places of higher education seem to be very high on that list. The very people you'd hope would have an open mind seem to be those most set against ideas that might challenge their thought processes


talking of being offended/SJWs/etc etc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oss7KmiHLmA

[anonymous-user]

don4l said:

Greg66 said:

Shaw Tarse said:

Sylvaforever said:

Here ya go


http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/profile.asp?mem...

what's the betting this gets censored ?

You've done your fair share of reporting posts.

Was that when he was Mojocvh before he was banned, or since he has been Sylvaforever?

Why was Mojocvh banned?

Dunno. Ask Sylvaforever.

[JMGS4]

gruffalo said:

Of course this is not just a PH phenomena but seems to be something that is building in society in general with people now able to be prosecuted for causing offense where does it end, is the western world becoming overly sensitive or are we all pushing the boundaries of what is acceptable.

Simple really, it's the weak-kneed spineless socialists who've had the education industry in their hands since bLIAR (and before) who have been inculating our children and others that you cannot be first, you cannot compete etc and ANYONE who doesn't agree with their defeatist point of view gets SHOUTED DOWN... thus the professional complainers/offended emerge (supposedly to help others, but in reality to support their defeatist and spinelss political aims.....)

What I say to these whinging defeatists is "GROW SOME you whinging barstewards, you're NOT the people who made Britain Great!"

[andy_s]

Je suis Charlie.

[andy_s]

JMGS4 said:

...who doesn't agree with their defeatist point of view gets SHOUTED DOWN...

Irony deficiency?

[ZedLeg]

dudleybloke said:

The SJW's and JTRIG lot have been trying to shut down real conversations here for a while now.

TBH I've found the opposite in my brief time round here. Somebody will say something a bit off, someone will disagree with it. Then rather than discussing why what the poster said might be disagreeable the mob piles in telling them to shut up and whinging about SJWs/the professionally offended. Just my experience though.

[AW111]

ZedLeg said:

TBH I've found the opposite in my brief time round here. Somebody will say something a bit off, someone will disagree with it. Then rather than discussing why what the poster said might be disagreeable the mob piles in telling them to shut up and whinging about SJWs/the professionally offended. Just my experience though.

There are some very thin-skinned individuals on here who cannot accept that anyone may find their posts disagreeable or in poor taste.
At the first hint of criticism they get very narky, start frothing at the mouth about "lefties", "guardianistas", SJW, censorship, etc., and accuses all and sundry of "crying to the mods".
Then the thread gets personal, then the thread gets closed.

I admit to being a lefty, but I know several very conservative, right-of-centre people who speak up against things they see as bigoted or in poor taste - why do the "offended at the professionally offended" assume all criticism is insincere and comes from the left?

[gruffalo]

AW111 said:

There are some very thin-skinned individuals on here who cannot accept that anyone may find their posts disagreeable or in poor taste.
At the first hint of criticism they get very narky, start frothing at the mouth about "lefties", "guardianistas", SJW, censorship, etc., and accuses all and sundry of "crying to the mods".
Then the thread gets personal, then the thread gets closed.

I admit to being a lefty, but I know several very conservative, right-of-centre people who speak up against things they see as bigoted or in poor taste - why do the "offended at the professionally offended" assume all criticism is insincere and comes from the left?

Taste is subjective so why comment as you will never reach consensus.

The running to the mod's and frothing at the mouth works both ways, so many threads have gone completely sour with shouts of bigotry and racism being thrown around but the core topic while it may have been a difficult subject would be of benefit to be out in the open.

[Smiler.]

AW111 said:

ZedLeg said:

TBH I've found the opposite in my brief time round here. Somebody will say something a bit off, someone will disagree with it. Then rather than discussing why what the poster said might be disagreeable the mob piles in telling them to shut up and whinging about SJWs/the professionally offended. Just my experience though.

There are some very thin-skinned individuals on here who cannot accept that anyone may find their posts disagreeable or in poor taste.
At the first hint of criticism they get very narky, start frothing at the mouth about "lefties", "guardianistas", SJW, censorship, etc., and accuses all and sundry of "crying to the mods".
Then the thread gets personal, then the thread gets closed.

I admit to being a lefty, but I know several very conservative, right-of-centre people who speak up against things they see as bigoted or in poor taste - why do the "offended at the professionally offended" assume all criticism is insincere and comes from the left?

I agree in some way. Your description equally applies to certain posters relentlessly playing the "phobe-ist" card, frequently of the tallow masticating fraternity.

The arrogance that flows from many posts of either side of the fence is equal to the apparent infantile nature.

Humour has evaporated from certain threads & everything becomes a bun fight.

[Jimbeaux]

Halmyre said:

Jimbeaux said:

dudleybloke said:

The SJW's and JTRIG lot have been trying to shut down real conversations here for a while now.

I saw a nice bumper sticker that is a response to to all of this SJW BS: "Don't spread my wealth, spread my work ethic".

Wealth does not equate to hard work, and vice-versa.

If often does. What is sure is that spreading another's wealth will certainly un inspire those who create it, leaving nothing to spread anyway.

The top 1% (that bad evgroup the left refers to) pay 43% of the nation's taxes, 50% pay none. Do that math.

[Jimbeaux]

JMGS4 said:

gruffalo said:

Of course this is not just a PH phenomena but seems to be something that is building in society in general with people now able to be prosecuted for causing offense where does it end, is the western world becoming overly sensitive or are we all pushing the boundaries of what is acceptable.

Simple really, it's the weak-kneed spineless socialists who've had the education industry in their hands since bLIAR (and before) who have been inculating our children and others that you cannot be first, you cannot compete etc and ANYONE who doesn't agree with their defeatist point of view gets SHOUTED DOWN... thus the professional complainers/offended emerge (supposedly to help others, but in reality to support their defeatist and spinelss political aims.....)

What I say to these whinging defeatists is "GROW SOME you whinging barstewards, you're NOT the people who made Britain Great!"

Sounds like a mirror of what we are having rammed down our throats by the Dem left.

[glazbagun]

Jimbeaux said:

If often does. What is sure is that spreading another's wealth will certainly un inspire those who create it, leaving nothing to spread anyway.

The top 1% (that bad evgroup the left refers to) pay 43% of the nation's taxes, 50% pay none. Do that math.

Surely that's the way it should be (more or less) in a place you'd want to live. It would be a rubbish system if the poorest 50% were paying 43% of the tax and the top 1% paid none.