13yr old killed in F50
Discussion
Art0ir said:
Dr Jekyll said:
Remember the old Red Arrows motto. 'Thrill the ignorant, impress the knowledgeable, frighten nobody'.
That's brilliant, first I heard that.I took one friend out in the Griff 500, on an undulating B road route I knew well. As we set off, gently, he was wittering on about his BIL's 'sportscar', a BMW Z3 IIRC, mid run, he was totally silent, and, as we returned to the 30 mph zone, he very earnestly said "a Z3 isn't a proper sports car, is it?". He'd definitely enjoyed the run.
Doing not much differently, I'd been asked by a friend if I'd take her husband out, as he was trying to decide between an MX5 and a TVR Chimaera. I'm pretty sure he didn't enjoy the ride sadly - he seemed fine at the time, but was white as a sheet afterwards. Which wasn't the intent. He got an MX5.
Apropos of both of the above, IMHO both the MX5 and the Z3 most definitely are proper sports cars.
fblm said:
The Spruce goose said:
tragic but definitely a rare event and shouldn't stop the childhood joy of riding in a supercar.
I hope you're right. I can clearly trace my car problem back to a ballistic ride in a family friends E28 M5 back in the day. It certainly makes me think twice about passing the experience on though...A few years back while my car was in for work, my housemate offered to help me pick up my son on a saturday morning. Impreza WRX, suggested that he open it up a little on the way back home. My sons face in the back seat was priceless - he absolutely loved the feeling of the acceleration.
As long as your careful, speed isn't an issue. This just seems like a truly tragic event, poor kid. The driver will no doubt be feeling absolutely heartbroken ....
I think we all are pretty comfortable with fast progression in our own performance cars that we fully understand the performance characteristics of. What we don't do is jump into somebody else's hypercar and say 'something like watch this' to some impressionable young innocent kid.
The mother must be absolutely destroyed, having let her son go on an unplanned ride with some stranger.
The mother must be absolutely destroyed, having let her son go on an unplanned ride with some stranger.
Digga said:
Art0ir said:
Dr Jekyll said:
Remember the old Red Arrows motto. 'Thrill the ignorant, impress the knowledgeable, frighten nobody'.
That's brilliant, first I heard that.I took one friend out in the Griff 500, on an undulating B road route I knew well. As we set off, gently, he was wittering on about his BIL's 'sportscar', a BMW Z3 IIRC, mid run, he was totally silent, and, as we returned to the 30 mph zone, he very earnestly said "a Z3 isn't a proper sports car, is it?". He'd definitely enjoyed the run.
Doing not much differently, I'd been asked by a friend if I'd take her husband out, as he was trying to decide between an MX5 and a TVR Chimaera. I'm pretty sure he didn't enjoy the ride sadly - he seemed fine at the time, but was white as a sheet afterwards. Which wasn't the intent. He got an MX5.
Apropos of both of the above, IMHO both the MX5 and the Z3 most definitely are proper sports cars.
To be honest it really makes you think as to whether there should be some sort of graded licence in order to drive stuff like that. You can't get a pilots licence for a single engined Piper and jump straight into a four engined jet, after all.
SilverSpur said:
it could have been sat in storage for months and months on tyres that were hardening and out of condition.
That was one of my first thoughts, absolutely terrible for all those involved.Never driven anything as exotic as a F50 but having been out in a few PH'ers cars can imagine how quickly things can change. Hope the driver makes a full recovery, will be difficult for him. But his family and friends must also be devastated.
RIP.
ALawson said:
SilverSpur said:
it could have been sat in storage for months and months on tyres that were hardening and out of condition.
That was one of my first thoughts, absolutely terrible for all those involved.Never driven anything as exotic as a F50 but having been out in a few PH'ers cars can imagine how quickly things can change. Hope the driver makes a full recovery, will be difficult for him. But his family and friends must also be devastated.
RIP.
The accident happened one minute into the ride. Cold tyres/dusty concrete road/too much throttle = tankslapper?
Digga said:
Shortly after I got my first Griff a guy (a Dr in scientific research IIRC) picked up a Chimaera from Team Central and never made it home, his car found upside down in a ditch the next day.
O/T but I remember that, the A446 just after the Belfry nr Sutton Coldfield. I've been round that bend hundreds of times in my yoof in my MG Metro, delighting at how awesome a corner it is, but easy to get wrong with too much power on tap I expect. Now when I visit my folks I always treat it with a lot more respect, because of that specific accident. PurpleTurtle said:
Digga said:
Shortly after I got my first Griff a guy (a Dr in scientific research IIRC) picked up a Chimaera from Team Central and never made it home, his car found upside down in a ditch the next day.
O/T but I remember that, the A446 just after the Belfry nr Sutton Coldfield. I've been round that bend hundreds of times in my yoof in my MG Metro, delighting at how awesome a corner it is, but easy to get wrong with too much power on tap I expect. Now when I visit my folks I always treat it with a lot more respect, because of that specific accident. SilverSpur said:
The mother must be absolutely destroyed, having let her son go on an unplanned ride with some stranger.
That thought just makes me feel weird, I cant comprehend what that poor woman, her family and the driver are going through.Someone I know occasionally gets his hands on some nice cars and pops round to take me for a spin, he has gone a bit daft in an attempt to show off, on the narrow roads near to home, I dont intend to get in again and my kids wont be going anywhere near, not sure what speed he did in a 30 but it was a lot over 30, possibly three times that, I feel bad even being a passenger.
Was it the driver's car or a customer car?
If it turns out this wasn't even the drivers own car, the that adds an even crueller twist to this sad event. Eg, did the mother know it was not his? (if it wasn't).
This is going to get very legally complicated very quickly indeed , I think.
If it turns out this wasn't even the drivers own car, the that adds an even crueller twist to this sad event. Eg, did the mother know it was not his? (if it wasn't).
This is going to get very legally complicated very quickly indeed , I think.
J4CKO said:
That thought just makes me feel weird, I cant comprehend what that poor woman, her family and the driver are going through.
Quite. It is too awful to contemplate the situation for any of the parties involved.J4CKO said:
in a 30 but it was a lot over 30, possibly three times that, I feel bad even being a passenger.
Agreed. Just no.The speed limits in built-up areas are never wrong.
s3fella said:
Was it the driver's car or a customer car?
If it turns out this wasn't even the drivers own car, the that adds an even crueller twist to this sad event. Eg, did the mother know it was not his? (if it wasn't).
This is going to get very legally complicated very quickly indeed , I think.
I suspect the driver will be past caring about what happens to him legally, he has had the worst thing he could have happen to him happen here I expect.If it turns out this wasn't even the drivers own car, the that adds an even crueller twist to this sad event. Eg, did the mother know it was not his? (if it wasn't).
This is going to get very legally complicated very quickly indeed , I think.
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