13yr old killed in F50
Discussion
ezi said:
fblm said:
Living with the fact that you'd accidentally killed someone must be a horrible punishment of it's self but weaseling out of taking responsibility loses my sympathy entirely.
Personally I feel for the guy, many people in his situation wouldn't give the kid time of day but he tried to give him an experience and it bit them both in the arse, he'll think about this every day for the rest of his life and never forgive himself for the consequences.http://www.basingstokegazette.co.uk/news/16033094....
Unloading the car so tyres must have been cold.
Hadn't realised it was for an Evo photo shoot (not that it has any relevance)
Desperately sad all round though
Unloading the car so tyres must have been cold.
Hadn't realised it was for an Evo photo shoot (not that it has any relevance)
Desperately sad all round though
TTmonkey said:
Is not the driver of the car responsible for all passengers (especially children) to be wearing seat belts? I don't even move our car until I know the kids and misses are belted up.
Belts for children under 14 are drivers responsibility. But that's just a slap on the wrist fine by itself.Gameface said:
ezi said:
never forgive himself for the consequences.
Really? He's already trying to wheedle his way out any responsibility for it. Was the cars fault, you see. Nothing he could do.
Im pretty sure he held his hands up and didn't try any excuses, anyway served his time, whilst he was in prison got very jealous of his wife and it broke them up causing him to make threats etc.
So he served his time came out used to sit drinking on the wall opposite the mothers house of 2 kids he d killed this went on for about a month and then he bought a car drove to wales and stuck a pipe from the exhaust into the car and curled up in a ball on the back seat until he died.
I guess its how your made you either own and deal with it, or like this chap pull all the bull you can to save your skin.
TTmonkey said:
I think the drivers defence that something wrong happened and it just shot off will be his downfall.
No one gets into an F50 with a 13 year old child to impres and attempts to drive down the road like a snail. Nope, doesn't wash with me.
And this balls about it being LHD being a factor. FFS. He'd even driven it before, and no doubt many other LHD stuff previously. It ain't hard to drive a LHD.
He'd have been better saying that he blipped the throttle and his clutch foot slipped and that it was an accident.
It will be interesting to see if witnesses confirm that he made the engine rev or not before the accident. Cars don't end up upside down without someone pressing the go peddle unless they fall off a lorry or something.
The owner of the farm & the transport driver both said they didn't hear the engine rev but did hear the crash so perhaps he didnt. From mu understanding the car rotated round opposed to upside down. Something of interest was the Evo video that showed a puff of smoke from the car twice and the person who inspected the car said two cylinders were not working but were working previously so maybe a intermittent fault meaning extra power all of a sudden?No one gets into an F50 with a 13 year old child to impres and attempts to drive down the road like a snail. Nope, doesn't wash with me.
And this balls about it being LHD being a factor. FFS. He'd even driven it before, and no doubt many other LHD stuff previously. It ain't hard to drive a LHD.
He'd have been better saying that he blipped the throttle and his clutch foot slipped and that it was an accident.
It will be interesting to see if witnesses confirm that he made the engine rev or not before the accident. Cars don't end up upside down without someone pressing the go peddle unless they fall off a lorry or something.
But the driver is responsible or making sure everyone under 14 has a seat belt on, why he ddint wear one himself let alone not making sure the kid did is baffling.
http://www.petrolhedonistic.com/matt-cobden-appear...
janesmith1950 said:
wc98 said:
have to agree. anyone can make a mistake ,but if you do take the responsibility for your actions.
You do, however many people have their own dependents. Faced with leaving them in the lurch, do you take it on the chin, or minimise how affected your loved ones are?Gameface said:
Incredibly tenuous strategy considering Meaden drove it for Evo earlier in the day and stated it was a fine example of the breed.
Straight off the bat, that's relevant expert testimony contradicting his "freak fault" version of events, even before no mechanical fault was found.
He also said he believed the puff in the video was in his opinion thrown up from the track, but a second puff was shown in a different part of the track so that would discredit his opinion of it being a fine example, and even fine examples 'can be temperamental'Straight off the bat, that's relevant expert testimony contradicting his "freak fault" version of events, even before no mechanical fault was found.
TooMany2cvs said:
SydneyBridge said:
Was is he realistically looking at if found guilty, 3 - 5 years ?
Death by Careless is absolute maximum 5yrs. I doubt he'll be even remotely close to that.ezi said:
fblm said:
Living with the fact that you'd accidentally killed someone must be a horrible punishment of it's self but weaseling out of taking responsibility loses my sympathy entirely.
Personally I feel for the guy, many people in his situation wouldn't give the kid time of day but he tried to give him an experience and it bit them both in the arse, he'll think about this every day for the rest of his life and never forgive himself for the consequences.Prosecuting him isn't going to bring the kid back, nor is this bloke, I would imagine, likely to do this incident again, so not sure what the point is of the trial. One off accident surely and the bloke has to live with what happened.
Chebble said:
If he’s no previous, he might not get a custodial sentence at all, probably a suspended sentence.
Let us hope so.hyphen said:
+1
Prosecuting him isn't going to bring the kid back, nor is this bloke, I would imagine, likely to do this incident again, so not sure what the point is of the trial. One off accident surely and the bloke has to live with what happened.
I think it will be the CPS who have raised the case opposed to the family, and i guess they have to do the trial regardless of what people feel of think as part of the process of cause of death and doing things properly. Prosecuting him isn't going to bring the kid back, nor is this bloke, I would imagine, likely to do this incident again, so not sure what the point is of the trial. One off accident surely and the bloke has to live with what happened.
A phrase I often experience being true is 'No good deed goes unpunished'
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