13yr old killed in F50

[poo at Paul's]

I'm guessing he wasn't doing 10mph when that happened.

[FurtiveFreddy]

As I mentioned on page 1, there's is also a pronounced dip in that road just after you go over the bridge, maybe 20m or so from the corner.

It hasn't been mentioned in the Court reporting yet but I think that may have had an influence on how the car behaved under acceleration.

[Sk00p]

Just found some stats for the F50, 1/8 mile or 200m standing start it can hit 94mph. So rolling start off the corner I'd imagine it could have been in the region of 70 when it veered off?

[9xxNick]

number 46 said:

Enlighten me?

The forces acting to lift and rotate the vehicle aren't dependent on the weight of the vehicle. You can't infer from your incident that the F50 would have to have been going at a higher speed than you were doing to have left the ground or have rolled.

Given the outcome of the crash, it seems reasonable to expect that crash investigation expertise would have been involved in determining what the car's trajectory was. They've also stated that there were no pre-existing faults that could have contributed, so the car's clearly been examined in detail post-crash. A closer look at the car and scene would show what the impact points were on the vehicle and its surroundings, so drawing a conclusion as to its path should be very feasible. Just looking at the end state of the scene from a distance means we're losing an awful lot of the detail that could be picked up from a closer examination.

[anonymous-user]

number 46 said:

fblm said:

Physics fail.

Enlighten me?

Vaud already did.

[Digga]

poo at Paul's said:

I'm guessing he wasn't doing 10mph when that happened.

Guessing from a crash I had on sprint circuit where the car got airbourne, at least 50 to 60mph when he lost it.

[SJK]

Sk00p said:

120m from corner to site of first impact, came to rest 30m further on.

Edited by Sk00p on Tuesday 20th February 13:07

From going to the site the bridge and bump are after the start point so acceleration would of started around the 30-40m on that pic I think. so maybe 70-90m would be a more realistic distance to impact.

[Sk00p]

SJK said:

From going to the site the bridge and bump are after the start point so acceleration would of started around the 30-40m on that pic I think. so maybe 70-90m would be a more realistic distance to impact.

Assuming he waited. I suspect we'll never know the exact details of that bit.

[TTmonkey]

Surely it’s time that an expert witnesses that’s qualified states how fast the car was likely going at impact?

Any details from the court so far today?

[SJK]

TTmonkey said:

Surely it’s time that an expert witnesses that’s qualified states how fast the car was likely going at impact?

Any details from the court so far today?

The court was due to have a late start today of 11.30, with a view of the accident site in the afternoon so imagine there will not be much info today maybe a lesser importance prepared statement by someone. Tomorrow will have more info from the experts I think.

[ape x]

Fort Jefferson said:

It saddens me that this thread exists because it was a Ferrari F50 that crashed, and not a 13 year old boy that died.

R.I.P

Imagine how this tread would be if the driver was Muslim and in an Audi S4!

[Digga]

ape x said:

Fort Jefferson said:

It saddens me that this thread exists because it was a Ferrari F50 that crashed, and not a 13 year old boy that died.

R.I.P

Imagine how this tread would be if the driver was Muslim and in an Audi S4!

To be fair, aside from the obvious random trolls that subject might attract, the overall discussion would be broadly similar; I don't think anyone's trying to excuse anything of the driver.

[Ructions]

ape x said:

Fort Jefferson said:

It saddens me that this thread exists because it was a Ferrari F50 that crashed, and not a 13 year old boy that died.

R.I.P

Imagine how this tread would be if the driver was Muslim and in an stolen Audi S3!

Edited for PH accuracy.

[SJK]

As suspected not much today other than the witness statement of the mothers boyfriend who was dropping off a battery to the drivers business.

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/crime/16035151.Tee..._39_in_a_flash39_/

[Gameface]

So the driver, a 39 year old man, was calling for his dad, after the crash?

Weird.

Or does his dad own the business or something?

[Shnozz]

Gameface said:

So the driver, a 39 year old man, was calling for his dad, after the crash?

Weird.

Or does his dad own the business or something?

Although no reference to him being there earlier in the report, it is stated that his father was with the child's mother and her boyfriend.


"The car roared off whilst myself, Arabella and Matt's dad stood around. We couldn't see anything of the vehicle after it had pulled away due to the hedges.

[Gameface]

Fair enough. Missed that bit.

Is the father involved in the business?

[TooMany2cvs]

Gameface said:

Fair enough. Missed that bit.

Is the father involved in the business?

Not a director.
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/0951990...
25-50% of voting stock is owned by the Swiss ex-director, Girardo, who seems to be ex-Bonhams and a fairly serious player.

[SJK]

I think this video is going to be what happened, similar distance traveled but instead of being lucky one of those tank slappers caught a post.

Has anyone driven a F50? I imagine that the clutch is fairly aggressive = over compensating on the throttle?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I66OdjxAALI

[TooMany2cvs]

SJK said:

I think this video is going to be what happened

Yup, "watch this" bell-endery.

In the vid its for the cameras, in this case it was for the passenger.