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anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Puggit said:
With 9m votes counted Le Pen on 25%, Macron 21% - Andrew Neil on Twitter
Fake news snowflake, the geezer Macron is in the lead.

Puggit

48,490 posts

249 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Raygun said:
Puggit said:
With 9m votes counted Le Pen on 25%, Macron 21% - Andrew Neil on Twitter
Fake news snowflake, the geezer Macron is in the lead.
Source?

jjlynn27

7,935 posts

110 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Kolbenkopp said:
jjlynn27 said:
Am I missing something here? Who's 'PeterSweden7'? Anything from French Interior Ministry (as stated on that image). Thanks.
Not sure who this Peter is, but the numbers are most likely from Bloomberg who get them from the French interior ministry website. They in turn publish them in the order they arrive, with smaller polling stations in less populated areas delivering sooner.

Suppose there is less support for Le Pen in urban areas so at the moment I would trust the polls more than 9m counted votes.


Edited by Kolbenkopp on Sunday 23 April 20:45
Appreciated. Thanks.

Puggit

48,490 posts

249 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Come on Raygun. Prove Macron is winning.

Chris944_S2

1,919 posts

224 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Puggit said:
Come on Raygun. Prove Macron is winning.
Mainstream French papers currently have Macron ahead:

http://www.lemonde.fr/ (left wing paper)
Macron 23.7%
Le pen 21.9%

http://www.lefigaro.fr/ (right wing paper)
Macron 23.8%
Le pen 21.7%

Rich_W

12,548 posts

213 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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amusingduck said:
Vaud said:
Macron will win, but a useful signal to Brussels that all is not well and change is needed in Europe...
More EU then hehe
Yep!

Hence Brexit laugh

Puggit

48,490 posts

249 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Chris944_S2 said:
Puggit said:
Come on Raygun. Prove Macron is winning.
Mainstream French papers currently have Macron ahead:

http://www.lemonde.fr/ (left wing paper)
Macron 23.7%
Le pen 21.9%

http://www.lefigaro.fr/ (right wing paper)
Macron 23.8%
Le pen 21.7%
Can you speak French? Those are exit polls.

sidicks

25,218 posts

222 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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BIANCO said:
sidicks said:
Vaud said:
Macron will win, but a useful signal to Brussels that all is not well and change is needed in Europe...
This.
Are you both mad there have been signs that EU needs to change for years they just don't lessen to them. Macron will win but all the EU leadership will see is an endorsement of how they are doing things.
I agreed that it was a sign that change is needed. At no point did I suggest that the EU leadership will react positively to that message.

Puggit

48,490 posts

249 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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French Interior Ministry says it is Le Pen (24.33%) versus Macron (22.24%) https://t.co/dTQpDMB4xT - Guido tweet.

I suspect Macron will win it because of the cities, as yet uncounted.

Puggit

48,490 posts

249 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Currently tied on 23.1% - Macron will win

Rich_W

12,548 posts

213 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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BIANCO said:
. Macron will win but all the EU leadership will see is an endorsement of how they are doing things.
Sadly Yes.

Juncker has already congratulated Macron and wished him well for the future. He forgot to do the same foe MLP

I do hope that has the reverse of the desired effect and Le Pens supporters rallye and win it anyway!

FourWheelDrift

88,572 posts

285 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Oakey said:
Protestors clashing with police now over results. Not sure who is protesting who
It's the Anti-Le Pen protesters. - http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/795513/France-...

"radical leftists, who are intent on engaging in violence."

Jazzy Jag

3,432 posts

92 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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FourWheelDrift said:
It's the Anti-Le Pen protesters. - http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/795513/France-...

"radical leftists, who are intent on engaging in violence."
L'hope not l'hate?

wink

Gogoplata

1,266 posts

161 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Jazzy Jag said:
FourWheelDrift said:
It's the Anti-Le Pen protesters. - http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/795513/France-...

"radical leftists, who are intent on engaging in violence."
L'hope not l'hate?

wink
So they're protesting even though they don't know the result of the election?

gruffalo

7,532 posts

227 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Gogoplata said:
Jazzy Jag said:
FourWheelDrift said:
It's the Anti-Le Pen protesters. - http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/795513/France-...

"radical leftists, who are intent on engaging in violence."
L'hope not l'hate?

wink
So they're protesting even though they don't know the result of the election?
What we do know is that their candidates are all out in the first round.

Vaud

50,637 posts

156 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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sidicks said:
BIANCO said:
sidicks said:
Vaud said:
Macron will win, but a useful signal to Brussels that all is not well and change is needed in Europe...
This.
Are you both mad there have been signs that EU needs to change for years they just don't lessen to them. Macron will win but all the EU leadership will see is an endorsement of how they are doing things.
I agreed that it was a sign that change is needed. At no point did I suggest that the EU leadership will react positively to that message.
What he said ^^^^

The EU will die, or revert to being a genuinely useful trading block without the wider federal integration, in my view.

Driller

8,310 posts

279 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Everyone saying "Macron will win" whilst quoting %s, you know this is the first round of two right and they'll both go to the second whatever the scores?

Ok, I accept that he'll definitely win the second round even if he comes second to MLP in the first.

It'll be a Holland type government all over again and in 6 months everyone will be wishing (again) that they hadn't voted for the party in power.

They really are a bunch of fkwits.

Eddie Strohacker

3,879 posts

87 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Loads of French friends saying this. Macron is magnolia, he won't be making an impact on anything any time soon but there was a fascist on the ballot & it's that simple, they say.


Good rule, of thumb in elections, don't vote for fascists.

Lance Catamaran

24,993 posts

228 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Yipper

5,964 posts

91 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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In the end, an easy win for Macron (24%). Obviously, Le Pen (22%) is not mightier than the sword. Macron is a surefire 1/9 at the bookies to be prez. The far-right uprising prompted by Brexit and Trump is fading away as quick as it came.