Politics in France

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Murph7355

37,715 posts

256 months

Monday 12th June 2017
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BlackLabel said:
The French president Emmanuel Macron’s new centrist party looks set to take an overwhelming majority in parliament after the first round of elections held on Sunday.

article said:
Macron’s fledgling centrist movement could, with its centrist allies, go from zero to as many as 430 seats in the 577-seat French national assembly. This would be one of the biggest majorities in post-war France.
Knowing not much about French politics that does seem an amazing feat.

It will be genuinely interesting to see how it pans out and also what change he manages to encourage within the EU. He has no excuses now.

hyphen

26,262 posts

90 months

Monday 12th June 2017
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FN are predicted to do terribly. Will it be the end off Marie?

Globs

13,841 posts

231 months

Monday 12th June 2017
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Looks like the state of emergency in France is to become permanent in all but name:

http://www.france24.com/en/20170609-france-state-e...

One less reason to attract attention by speeding or getting too drunk over in the Land of Liberty:

France24 said:
Warrant-less property searches and house arrests, two controversial measures currently used by French security officials under special state of emergency powers, could become ordinary policing practices under a new bill being sponsored by the country’s new government.

jjlynn27

7,935 posts

109 months

Sunday 18th June 2017
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hyphen said:
FN are predicted to do terribly. Will it be the end off Marie?
Given previous experiences, she'll probably get a job at the French equivalent of LBC while collecting EU salary/pension.

jeff666

2,323 posts

191 months

Sunday 18th June 2017
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jjlynn27 said:
hyphen said:
FN are predicted to do terribly. Will it be the end off Marie?
Given previous experiences, she'll probably get a job at the French equivalent of LBC while collecting EU salary/pension.
Just come up on my FB feed that she has been elected to Parliament.

andy_s

19,400 posts

259 months

Sunday 18th June 2017
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FN got 6 more seats I think, with Macron gaining an overwhelming majority.

Interesting situation - Trojan horse or an unfettered Obama - either way, he's got no one to point a finger at if it all goes horribly wrong smile

Sylvaforever

2,212 posts

98 months

Sunday 18th June 2017
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"unless Schultz pulls off a miracle win,"

You see what you are doing there is saying that they are somehow different; but in reality they are anything but. It's a smokescreen, a fob to the German voters, the intention is to continue on exactly the same path as present...

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 18th June 2017
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Maybe, but its a certainty if Merkel gets in. That's looking far more likely now.

I don't see how Macron will do anything of substance if the Germans wont budge, I think it will come down to what happens in Italy though. If they press the referendum button that could kill it.

Murph7355

37,715 posts

256 months

Sunday 18th June 2017
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jsf said:
Maybe, but its a certainty if Merkel gets in. That's looking far more likely now.

I don't see how Macron will do anything of substance if the Germans wont budge, I think it will come down to what happens in Italy though. If they press the referendum button that could kill it.
I doubt it. And I'm not sure even the Italians will push the button at present.

I suspect all the bluster about the UK not getting a good deal is aimed at the Italians and maybe the Dutch rather than the French. (Realistically it's only going to be aimed at the net contributors. And there aren't many of those).

Much water to go under the bridge yet. I can see change being ignored/kicked down the road for a good 5-10yrs more. But it'll come eventually. The cost of the whole project being spread across one less, hugely contributing member will eventually bite. It's like our typical Labour style governments here that promise lots of free stuff. Eventually it always comes home to roost.

Does Macron know this and how persuasive can he be?

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 18th June 2017
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Macron is your atypical French elite academy educated snake oil salesman. He will be incredibly divisive when his policies start to kick in.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 18th June 2017
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jsf said:
Maybe, but its a certainty if Merkel gets in. That's looking far more likely now.

I don't see how Macron will do anything of substance if the Germans wont budge, I think it will come down to what happens in Italy though. If they press the referendum button that could kill it.

I'm not sure the italians can afford to push that button anymore, it's a bit late for them.

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

123 months

Sunday 18th June 2017
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It's remarkable how quickly he's progressed in politics.

Up until 2012 he was a banker for Rothschild & Co (I bet Alex Jones types love that smile). He's then given a role in the Presidential Palace and 2 years later he's appointed Finance Minister a post he held for less than 2 years. Then he's elected President and launches a new political party (named after his initials) which wins a majority in parliament.




jjlynn27

7,935 posts

109 months

Sunday 18th June 2017
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Rereading few pages of this thread was fun. Seems that I was right that good old Frenchies are not as easily frightened by 'scary furiners' and don't feel very oppressed by EU.

Well, good luck to them and EM. Quite a few NP&E posters must feel disappointed that Le Pen got told to jog on.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 18th June 2017
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Not at all, its going to be fascinating to see how this plays out.

768

13,681 posts

96 months

Sunday 18th June 2017
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jjlynn27 said:
Quite a few NP&E posters must feel disappointed that Le Pen got told to jog on.
Did she? Corbyn told me she won.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 18th June 2017
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jjlynn27 said:
Rereading few pages of this thread was fun. Seems that I was right that good old Frenchies are not as easily frightened by 'scary furiners' and don't feel very oppressed by EU.
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What you want to remember is that millions of Frenchies voted for a fascist the other week, something that wouldn't happen here.

Eddie Strohacker

3,879 posts

86 months

Sunday 18th June 2017
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Raygun said:
What you want to remember is that millions of Frenchies voted for a fascist the other week, something that wouldn't happen here.
I agree & he gave it seven tries, so even the margin for error can fk off.

s2art

18,937 posts

253 months

Monday 19th June 2017
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Eddie Strohacker said:
Raygun said:
What you want to remember is that millions of Frenchies voted for a fascist the other week, something that wouldn't happen here.
I agree & he gave it seven tries, so even the margin for error can fk off.
If you think Farage is anything close to resembling a fascist then you just lost whatever smidgen of credibility you may have had. I mean, seriously?

JagLover

42,416 posts

235 months

Monday 19th June 2017
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jjlynn27 said:
Rereading few pages of this thread was fun. Seems that I was right that good old Frenchies are not as easily frightened by 'scary furiners' and don't feel very oppressed by EU.

Well, good luck to them and EM. Quite a few NP&E posters must feel disappointed that Le Pen got told to jog on.
As with many other European countries the French comprehensively rejected the far right.................by giving them the highest shares of the vote since WW2.



Eddie Strohacker

3,879 posts

86 months

Monday 19th June 2017
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s2art said:
If you think Farage is anything close to resembling a fascist then you just lost whatever smidgen of credibility you may have had. I mean, seriously?
Yes, seriously. I'll just have to take it on the chin that some guy on the internet doesn't think I'm credible.