Parachute Murder.

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Steviesam

1,244 posts

135 months

Tuesday 1st May 2018
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She is reported as "admitting she did not tell the truth to the police".

wc98

10,424 posts

141 months

Tuesday 1st May 2018
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Ayahuasca said:
I understood that the slinks were entirely missing?
that was also my understanding.according to the opinion of some riggers it is possible this can occur due to a mistake during rigging and can go undetected ,and even be jumped successfully . this has been documented as happening in the past i believe.

Trevatanus

11,128 posts

151 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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Guilty, unsurprisingly from what I have heard in the media.

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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It certainly sounds like the right verdict from what is in the public domain.

The victim made a good attempt to derail the entire prosecution.




BlackLabel

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13,251 posts

124 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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Wonder what kind of sentence he gets?

Now that he’s been convicted the press are able to give more details about the case and this man’s crazy life.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-44209421

Eric Mc

122,098 posts

266 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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Drove past the very site of the attempted murder last week.

The Selfish Gene

5,517 posts

211 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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that is a rather bleak read.

Although this paragraph struck me :

"His interest in risky sports, his complete lack of remorse [for his infidelity], his excessive spending, his womanising, and his inability to empathise are all on the prescribed list of psychopathic behaviour," she said.

Not sure I agree that's psychopathic behaviour. Apart from maybe the empathy.

I mean from the paragraph list. Clearly trying to kill your wife is psychopathic behaviour and he is one.

Edited by The Selfish Gene on Thursday 24th May 17:54

4x4Tyke

6,506 posts

133 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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The Selfish Gene said:
Not sure I agree that's psychopathic behaviour. Apart from maybe the empathy.

I mean from the paragraph list. Clearly trying to kill your wife is psychopathic behaviour and he is one.
Murder or Attempted murder doesn't make him a psychopath.

There are a list of traits that determine it and he seems to tick many of them.

  • glib and superficial charm
  • grandiose (exaggeratedly high) estimation of self
  • need for stimulation
  • pathological lying
  • cunning and manipulativeness
  • lack of remorse or guilt
  • shallow affect (superficial emotional responsiveness)
  • callousness and lack of empathy
  • parasitic lifestyle
  • poor behavioral controls
  • sexual promiscuity
  • early behavior problems
  • lack of realistic long-term goals
  • impulsivity
  • irresponsibility
  • failure to accept responsibility for own actions
  • many short-term marital relationships
  • juvenile delinquency
  • revocation of conditional release
  • criminal versatility

V8covin

7,343 posts

194 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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Has the wife made a recovery from her injuries ?

The Selfish Gene

5,517 posts

211 months

Friday 25th May 2018
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4x4Tyke said:
Murder or Attempted murder doesn't make him a psychopath.

There are a list of traits that determine it and he seems to tick many of them.

  • glib and superficial charm
  • grandiose (exaggeratedly high) estimation of self
  • need for stimulation
  • pathological lying
  • cunning and manipulativeness
  • lack of remorse or guilt
  • shallow affect (superficial emotional responsiveness)
  • callousness and lack of empathy
  • parasitic lifestyle
  • poor behavioral controls
  • sexual promiscuity
  • early behavior problems
  • lack of realistic long-term goals
  • impulsivity
  • irresponsibility
  • failure to accept responsibility for own actions
  • many short-term marital relationships
  • juvenile delinquency
  • revocation of conditional release
  • criminal versatility
I in no way want to come across as a wker - genuinely - but are they the official list? As in , that's the actual criteria - if you have all of those you are 100% diagnosed as a psychopath.

As I genuinely know several (quite a few) people that meet some of that criteria to some extent and I in no way consider them a psychopath.

I guess I haven't thought about it before but I always in my own mind considered a psychopath to be someone like Begby from Train Spotting. The sort of scary person that being around makes you uncomfortable or actually insane.

I had never considered one was perfectly normal and a psychopath behind the scenes.

I have some reading to do I guess!

Eric Mc

122,098 posts

266 months

Friday 25th May 2018
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4x4Tyke said:
Murder or Attempted murder doesn't make him a psychopath.

There are a list of traits that determine it and he seems to tick many of them.

  • glib and superficial charm
  • grandiose (exaggeratedly high) estimation of self
  • need for stimulation
  • pathological lying
  • cunning and manipulativeness
  • lack of remorse or guilt
  • shallow affect (superficial emotional responsiveness)
  • callousness and lack of empathy
  • parasitic lifestyle
  • poor behavioral controls
  • sexual promiscuity
  • early behavior problems
  • lack of realistic long-term goals
  • impulsivity
  • irresponsibility
  • failure to accept responsibility for own actions
  • many short-term marital relationships
  • juvenile delinquency
  • revocation of conditional release
  • criminal versatility
He'd make a good candidate for President of the United States.

Eric Mc

122,098 posts

266 months

Friday 25th May 2018
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The Selfish Gene said:
I in no way want to come across as a wker - genuinely - but are they the official list? As in , that's the actual criteria - if you have all of those you are 100% diagnosed as a psychopath.

As I genuinely know several (quite a few) people that meet some of that criteria to some extent and I in no way consider them a psychopath.

I guess I haven't thought about it before but I always in my own mind considered a psychopath to be someone like Begby from Train Spotting. The sort of scary person that being around makes you uncomfortable or actually insane.

I had never considered one was perfectly normal and a psychopath behind the scenes.

I have some reading to do I guess!
Maybe not being able to recognise psychopathic tendencies in others means you could be psychopathic yourself smile

The Selfish Gene

5,517 posts

211 months

Friday 25th May 2018
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Eric Mc said:
Maybe not being able to recognise psychopathic tendencies in others means you could be psychopathic yourself smile
well that's the other concern!! I've met a few of those myself!!

In all seriousness..............I really thought it would be an uncontrollable actual medical or physical condition rather than a set of behaviours. I guess it's obvious now it's been written down clearly for me.

I just assumed it was a bit like Schizophrenia - and it clearly isn't.

I have been educated this fine Friday.


4x4Tyke

6,506 posts

133 months

Friday 25th May 2018
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The Selfish Gene said:
I in no way want to come across as a wker - genuinely - but are they the official list? As in , that's the actual criteria - if you have all of those you are 100% diagnosed as a psychopath.

As I genuinely know several (quite a few) people that meet some of that criteria to some extent and I in no way consider them a psychopath.

I guess I haven't thought about it before but I always in my own mind considered a psychopath to be someone like Begby from Train Spotting. The sort of scary person that being around makes you uncomfortable or actually insane.

I had never considered one was perfectly normal and a psychopath behind the scenes.

I have some reading to do I guess!
Yes, it was from the Hare Psychopathy diagnostic checklist, to be a diagnosed psychopath a person needs to exhibit most or all of these to a very high degree. A bit like that, in certain circumstances, isn't enough.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy_Checklis...

dandarez

13,294 posts

284 months

Friday 25th May 2018
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The Selfish Gene said:
Eric Mc said:
Maybe not being able to recognise psychopathic tendencies in others means you could be psychopathic yourself smile
well that's the other concern!! I've met a few of those myself!!

In all seriousness..............I really thought it would be an uncontrollable actual medical or physical condition rather than a set of behaviours. I guess it's obvious now it's been written down clearly for me.

I just assumed it was a bit like Schizophrenia - and it clearly isn't.

I have been educated this fine Friday.
What are you talking about? It's been pissing down all morning! hehe

4x4Tyke

6,506 posts

133 months

Friday 25th May 2018
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Eric Mc said:
He'd make a good candidate for President of the United States.
I've seen plausible write ups that he is text book example of Narcissistic Personality Disorder, which does seem to overlap somewhat. DSM list of NPD traits.

  • ‘Two faced’ – putting friends and family down behind their back.
  • Narcissistic rage; has trouble admitting their mistakes and may become angered by even mild criticism.
  • Blames others for their failures and lack of success.
  • A different person in private than in public.
  • Irresponsible and unreliable (often trading off other people’s hard work).
  • Arrogant, acting superior to family and close friends.
  • Lives in a fantasy world which may include porn, romance novels, flirting, affairs, computer games and dreams of fame and success.
  • May be addicted to this fantasy behaviour.
  • May have other addictions such as alcohol, tobacco, gambling, drugs, shopping, and/or sex.
  • Will lie and distort facts and change the events of history to suit their own agenda.
  • May use people, steal and be irresponsible with money.
  • Distant and emotionally unavailable unless they want something.
  • Lacking empathy for others; especially the people they exploit.
  • Controlling and often unable to relax.
  • May appear charming and even humble in public.
  • Provokes people and then blames them for the fight.

4x4Tyke

6,506 posts

133 months

Friday 25th May 2018
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The Selfish Gene said:
I just assumed it was a bit like Schizophrenia - and it clearly isn't.
Schizophrenia is a mental illness, temporary, treatable/curable, most people can become mentally ill in the wrong circumstance, e.g. shell shock, depression, stress, etc.

Mental illness is a different beast to personality disorders, people are born that way and it is considered permanent and incurable. They can be still 'high functioning' and even successful, and if you are really interested checkout the book 'Snakes in Suits' about some diagnosed psychopaths have been very successful in playing the system to their own benefit. This guy for example or Dr Shipman.

BlackLabel

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13,251 posts

124 months

Sunday 27th May 2018
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The wife has given an interview to the Mail.


"'I still can't believe he tried to murder me': Tearful wife of Lothario army sergeant refuses to accept his conviction for cutting her parachute, says she has NO plans to divorce him and reveals she's told their kids 'he's at work'"

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5775265/Vi...
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jeff666

2,323 posts

192 months

Sunday 27th May 2018
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Talk about in denial,

No different to the mental Woman who stay with partners who continue to beat the ste out of them.

loose cannon

6,030 posts

242 months

Sunday 27th May 2018
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When 2 fruit loops meet and get hitched